Discussion Horror stories of using N?

[ddutch]

And how do we know a shotgun blast that pulpifies a brain faster than the speed of sound is more painful than Nembutal? Nobody can argue with the fact that N sure looks pretty ("more peaceful") as compared to a gory blood bath, so if you want to star in an open casket funeral it's definitely the way to go.

It seems that N is sacred on this forum and some get upset if anyone dares to point out legitimate problems with it. Though these same people are just fine with terrifying every would-be gun suicide with the idea that they will surely blow their face off & need a face transplant. They will ignore that the vast bulk of gunshot survivors did not use a shotgun -- they used handguns & often wimpy handguns at that (with .22LR being common, despite being the weakest caliber possible). And those gunshot survivors mostly put the muzzle under their chin, which resulted in facial destruction, rather than shotgun in mouth which results in a brain being instantly pulpified.

No method is 100% so all one can do is try to decide between various methods that are all imperfect and weigh the pros & cons of each. I'm terrified of how painful a shotgun blast will be, though I know the brain has no pain receptors so it can't feel itself being destroyed and it's also clear that a shotgun makes one dead faster than any other method so the duration of pain is limited.

for me it is very clear I prefer Nembutal over a shotgun or whatever.

Because
1 It brings me in a deep coma , so i am not aware of anything anymore.
2 Pain is minimal not like shooting wrong or cutting, more like drinking, i TESTEd it myself
3 I love sleeping so nembutal is my way
4 In holland we have strickt gun laws and I dont like guns because way to many innocent people who die by shooting it is way to violent.
5 The 6 cases that went wrong still sound Positive of the hundreds worldwide.

 

[TimeToDie]

4 In holland we have strickt gun laws and I dont like guns because way to many innocent people who die by shooting it is way to violent.

I agree that shotgun suicide is really only viable in the US, being extremely difficult to access in the rest of the world. As for death of innocents, please keep in mind that two-thirds of "gun violence" is suicides. I hate how the gun-grabbers include suicides to bulk up the numbers for their anti-gun propaganda. What we see in the US is that murders are almost entirely confined to inner cities that are very poor & overrun with drug crime. This would be places like Chicago (and even then it's certain very poor areas only). I've never yet heard gun shots except on a shooting range, so it's not the Wild West even if UK news outlets typically portray America that way. I'd suggest ending the War On Drugs if we want to reduce gun homicides.

And I fully agree that Nembutal is a very appealing method. I'd rate N & shotgun as the two best methods, assuming one can access them in their country and they have the money to do so.

 

[Camille Lejeune]

At first I didn't want to answer this thread, but now I've changed my mind.

I think it's important that all information about a method is discussed here in the forum. The good ones, as well as the bad ones. But I think that these 'horror stories' are not really helpful. Especially not for the users in this forum who are at a very difficult time in their lives, paranoid or anxious. And I argue that this is the majority of the users here.

Unfortunately, these exceptions are generalized very quickly, and used to judge the effectiveness of the whole method. I think that's wrong.

Of course, N is not a method that works 100%. And I hope this is clear to everyone here. There is always a risk that something will go wrong or not go as expected.
I just read the article. These are only 6 cases with unusual occurrences in almost 15 years. Only 6. For me such numbers are no reason to be worried to be honest. And certainly not enough to make N a bad and unreliable method.

I have posted this before and will quote it again:



You forgot a third way. The people who take a close look at the facts, weigh up the risks and then decide whether the method is right for them. I would count myself among them.

Thank you SO much

 

[Sunshine]

Is there any chance that you are still somewhat conscious when you are "knocked out" and feel yourself suffocating for 5-15 minutes?

 

[jake3d]

With barbiturates? Slim to none.

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

Coma means you're completely unconscious. Barbiturates shut down your brain almost completely. In fact, emergency protocol where barbiturate poisoning is suspected is to do resuscitative measures even if the patient appears braindead - this is the extent of how far your brain can be shut down and still be able to restart if you are found and taken to hospital.

Of course. It just depends on the dosage amount to your weight, if you've been an alcoholic prior to taking N, been on anti-psychotics for an extended period of time. The death is fairly quick for the most part, and the ones that last a day or more were less than 1% according to clinic results from patients in euthanasia clinics. People should at least give a 12 hour window to be on the safe side.

 

[saomao]

if you gasping for air with N why is consider more peaceful than exit bag?

 

[ddutch]

if you gasping for air with N why is consider more peaceful than exit bag?

LOL

 

[saomao]

LOL

?

 

[ddutch]

?

because the whole conversation on horror stories was bullshit to begin with and the comments.

but nobody sais the exit bag is more peaceful, because its a misunderstanding on a couple of examples out of the hundreds succesfull cases with N and euthanisia wtich did not go as wished or expected

Read the whole subject how it started.

sort of like glas half full half empty you will get it.

 

[I’vehadenough]

I read the article and clicked the link to the report of the inmate saying he felt his whole body burning...from my previous research it seems that was likely due to poor preparation from a compounding pharmacy in the US that they were getting their N from since European countries refused to provide it. It seems like that was most likely the reason for that.

The story of the old woman is very disturbing however. It feels unfathomably cruel that anyone's final moments should be anything but peaceful.

hmm i think id rather hang myself after reading this

 

[jake3d]

hmm i think id rather hang myself after reading this

That was 1 out of thousands. There is of course a certain level of pain involved with any method that would end ones' life, even with N or morphine. But for these two substances the risk of a high level of pain is very, very, very low. I've been dealing with an excruciating migraine every day for half an year, I'll gladly take 4 more minutes of pain and then eternal sleep over 40 years of going on with this.

 

[I’vehadenough]

That was 1 out of thousands. There is of course a certain level of pain involved with any method that would end ones' life, even with N or morphine. But for these two substances the risk of a high level of pain is very, very, very low. I've been dealing with an excruciating migraine every day for half an year, I'll gladly take 4 more minutes of pain and then eternal sleep over 40 years of going on with this.

Yeah, the pain of living outweighs the pain of dying. I was badly facially disfigured and no longer have a satisfying life to live. I'll take the 4 minutes of physical pain too

 

[not_a_robot]

Wow nice going guys.

Making each other scared with so-called horror stories because you are scared your self. Very smart and even fueling it more with stories well done.

Nembutal is far out the best and most peaceful way to go. Maybe it can burn like drinking strong wisky but getting shot or run over by a truck will hurt far more.

So stop this bullshit conversation.

Why is ddutch banned?

 

[saomao]

Yeah, the pain of living outweighs the pain of dying. I was badly facially disfigured and no longer have a satisfying life to live. I'll take the 4 minutes of physical pain too

4 minutes of physical pain by witch method?

 

[lifeisbutadream]

I agree that shotgun suicide is really only viable in the US, being extremely difficult to access in the rest of the world. As for death of innocents, please keep in mind that two-thirds of "gun violence" is suicides. I hate how the gun-grabbers include suicides to bulk up the numbers for their anti-gun propaganda. What we see in the US is that murders are almost entirely confined to inner cities that are very poor & overrun with drug crime. This would be places like Chicago (and even then it's certain very poor areas only). I've never yet heard gun shots except on a shooting range, so it's not the Wild West even if UK news outlets typically portray America that way. I'd suggest ending the War On Drugs if we want to reduce gun homicides.

And I fully agree that Nembutal is a very appealing method. I'd rate N & shotgun as the two best methods, assuming one can access them in their country and they have the money to do so.

I like the idea of combining them. Failsafe.

 

[I’vehadenough]

4 minutes of physical pain by witch method?

idk i was quoting jake

I like the idea of combining them. Failsafe.

good idea. do you have to use a shotgun though like the lost all hope site says?

 

[jake3d]

idk i was quoting jake

Someone mentioned that there is an account of even N being somewhat painful. But it puts you to sleep in 4-5 minutes then coma, so does it matter if it hurts a bit?

 

[not_a_robot]

Someone mentioned that there is an account of even N being somewhat painful. But it puts you to sleep in 4-5 minutes then coma, so does it matter if it hurts a bit?

Nobody says Fentanyl hurts. Still can't figure out why there's so much focus on a method so hard to obtain, when Fent is supposed to be so easy to get and painless. And cheaper.
Happy for anyone who obtains N, would buy if I could afford, but I just haven't seen much data to convince me it's better than F.

 

[jake3d]

Fent OD can hurt, i've read up on more than a few stories like that, an' they can shoot you up with naloxone and revive you if you are found.

Fent+Benzos on the other hand... sounds good. It's just that I got in trouble with the law in the past and already have everything required for SN so I steer clear of anything illegal, be it N or Fent.

 

[not_a_robot]

Fent OD can hurt, i've read up on more than a few stories like that, an' they can shoot you up with naloxone and revive you if you are found.

Fent+Benzos on the other hand... sounds good. It's just that I got in trouble with the law in the past and already have everything required for SN so I steer clear of anything illegal, be it N or Fent.

See, every bad story I've heard of Fent is from people who "got found". That's just poor planning. I don't take that shit seriously. Sure being *revived* after half-dying hurts, we all knew that already. I live a genuinely isolated life, so any negativity related to being found doesn't apply to me.
Do you have a preferred timeframe?

 

[jake3d]

Do you have a preferred timeframe?

I'm not in a hurry to go, been sitting on my SN for 2 months already.

I can probably get sold fent by attempting to score some dope off the street, but i've never been into opiates so I know of only one place where people sit and IV often, and that place is dangerous for other reasons than that. Besides, since I got on medication, kinda have to keep a schedule all the time to be able to function, so hanging around outside past midnight not really an option anymore.

Even with the whole legal risk I'd probably order off the darknet if I wanted anything like that, darknet vendors have a reputation for good stealth. If I haven't yet it means I'm not interested.

 

[not_a_robot]

Yeah I suck at buying drugs too. If weed hasn't become legal I'd have had to ctb by now, hated always begging dopedealers for it

 

[I’vehadenough]

Someone mentioned that there is an account of even N being somewhat painful. But it puts you to sleep in 4-5 minutes then coma, so does it matter if it hurts a bit?

Whst method is this?

 

[jake3d]

Umm, it should be immediately obvious from the very post that you quoted.

 

[Mbound]

Does anyone know the risk of brain damage if you vomited up some of it and didn't absorb enough to die?

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Does anyone know the risk of brain damage if you vomited up some of it and didn't absorb enough to die?

I believe that there is no danger of that at all.

 

[Mbound]

I believe that there is no danger of that at all.

Thank you. I read someone saying it was neuroprotective somewhere on here, it's just hard for me to believe something that can kill you so quick can't do lasting damage. Like most people here my ultimate nightmare is becoming a vegetable.

 

[jake3d]

Barbiturates are very neuroprotective. They have been used for anesthesia for a long time before safer medication (in terms of less likelihood of dying) was discovered.

 

[not_a_robot]

My N horror story is I just got reminded why you can't use it in a suppository.
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