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yyytry

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Sep 8, 2022
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willing to kill their own career by coming forward with information.
This is unlikely bc more than killing their career, it would be killing the means to take care of their family/lifestyle.

At this point, hack and leak is probably the only way it'll happen.
And if they hack and leak, they should cover all the bases (Weinstein, combs, etc) at the same time.
It would be so non-linear and outside of all the nonsense political posturing…
 
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Enlightened
May 7, 2025
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Yeah, we really need a swing-for-the-fences hack/leak that covers a lot of territory. Especially in this case where the previous hack/leaks have often been at least partially political so one side would scream "fake news" while the other would begrudgingly accept the information even if they chided the leak... but this is a situation where a leak of this nature would be welcomed by a lot of people on both sides who just want truth no matter who it hits. Whatever else you might think about hardcore democratic voters and hardcore republicans or MAGA voters... I believe this is one story that has a unifying effect in that the voters really do want the truth and will turn on anyone found to be complicit in the Epstein mess. Politicians might scramble to cover their own asses, but voters would unify behind this if we got a timely hack/leak in the middle of obvious cover-up.
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Do Russian intelligence services have access to Epsteil material that could be used to blackmail Trump? My hot take is: probably yes. Will they be used? I am not sure. Probably not. At least not in Alaska.
 
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May 7, 2025
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Do Russian intelligence services have access to Epsteil material that could be used to blackmail Trump? My hot take is: probably yes. Will they be used? I am not sure. Probably not. At least not in Alaska.
I think there are too many high-profile people entangled in the Epstein mess for any one of them to be singularly exploited. Consider... if Russia tried to blackmail Trump over something in the files, there are so many other people who would be implicated so they in turn would be pressuring Russia not to do it. IF you released info on just Trump to expose him, someone in support of him would release what they have about you or someone important to you... and the whole house of cards comes down.

Blackmail really only works when person A has done a bad thing and person B finds out. If there are a dozen other people involved, it becomes a mess in a hurry and you either have to blackmail them all or none, because once one is outed he'll turn on the others to mitigate his case and they know it... so you end up with a whole different kind of circle jerk forming where everyone who can be implicated bands together to protect each other from being exploited and bringing everyone down.

This is why the Democrats didn't try to release info either while Biden was in office... same problem. Democrats have people they want to protect just like the Republicans do... so both sides are compelled to protect everyone since outing your enemy means your enemy will out you too.
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Journalist Michael Tracy on the Epstein case. I will sum up the video for you. Tracey is probably in the files too. Lol.
 
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Winterreise

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He will use the files to his advantage. To hurt , to extort , to enforce loyality
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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I met Jeffrey Epstein half a dozen years ago. We have been in regular contact since, with many long and often in-depth discussions about a very wide range of topics, including our own specialties and professional work, but a host of others where we have shared interests. It has been a most valuable experience for me.
In the area of his own direct engagements, I have learned a great deal from him about the intricacies of the global financial system, about complex technical issues that arise in the often arcane world of finance, and about specific cases in which I have a particular interest, such as the financial situation in Saudi Arabia and current economic planning and prospects there. Jeffrey invariably turns out to be a highly reliable source, with intimate knowledge and perceptive analysis, commonly going well beyond what I can find in the business press and professional journals.
Turning to my own special interests in linguistics, cognitive science, and philosophy of language and mind, Jeffrey constantly raises searching questions and puts forth provocative ideas, which have repeatedly led me to rethink crucial issues.
We have also had (for me) very rewarding discussions on many other topics, for example the prospects for Artificial Intelligence, deep learning, multi-layered neural nets, automation and robotics, singularity, and related matters, exploring the claims and predictions and looking closely at the results that have been achieved, their intellectual contributions and social import. We have also discussed many other issues, ranging from intellectual history, to world affairs and contemporary geopolitics, to foundations of mathematics, to such matters as recent discoveries about communication in the plant world. He has also tried, so far with limited success, to carry forward my wife Valeria's efforts to introduce me to the world of jazz and its wonders. Whatever comes up, Jeffrey not only has a lively interest but also unconventional and challenging ideas and thoughtful suggestions.
Given the range and depth of his concerns, I suppose I should not have been surprised to discover that Jeffrey has repeatedly been able to arrange, sometimes on the spot, very productive meetings with leading figures in the sciences and mathematics, and global politics, people whose work and activities I had looked into though I had never expected to meet them. Once, when we were discussing the Oslo agreements, Jeffrey picked up the phone and called the Norwegian diplomat who supervised them, leading to a lively interchange. On another occasion, Jeffrey arranged a meeting with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, whose record I had studied carefully and written about. We have our disagreements, but had a very fruitful discussion about a number of controversial matters, including one that was of particular interest to me: the Taba negotiations of January 2001, in the framework of President Clinton's "parameters," events that remain obscure and controversial because the diplomatic record is still mostly secret. Barak's discussion of the background was illuminating, also surprising in some ways. In very different areas, much the same was true in meetings Jeffrey arranged with evolutionary biologists, neuroscientists, mathematicians and computer scientists, several of them engaged in exciting work at the limits of understanding in their fields, sometimes with perspectives quite different from mine. More lively interchanges, in which Jeffrey was once again an active participant, often an effective gadfly.
The impact of Jeffrey's limitless curiosity, extensive knowledge, penetrating insights, and thoughtful appraisals is only heightened by his easy informality, without a trace of pretentiousness. He quickly became a highly valued friend and regular source of intellectual exchange and stimulation.
Noam Chomsky
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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I highly doubt they will release the Epstein files uncensored and unchanged. The whole thing is sus as fuck. I don't trust the FBI under Trump. Not at all. It is very unprofessional.
Mainstream media will probably back the release in its official form. I don't fully rule it out that it is uncensored. I am curious. But I don't expect much. I could imagine there will be a lot of dirt on Democrats and Republicans. But surprisingly Epstein's best friend for more than a a decade won't be this much corrupted.
 
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