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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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I can remember when I first made up my mind concerning assisted suicide. It was in 7th class religon lessons (this is many many years since). To that time I was supporter of the christian-conservative party in my country. I can remember this very well (my memory is highly selective) . I watched some talk-shows and read some newspaper articles in order to do my homework in order to collect pro and contra arguments. So I watched the politicians of my favorite party explaining why suffering people should not have the right to choose about their death. I spottet they were talking bullshit after some time.
(No joke this is roundabout a decade ago but I can remember it. I was proud about that after my first psychosis and I thought a lot about it. The psychosis happened some years after this debate.)
In class our religion teacher wanted to have a debate. He forced me to be member of the pro-argument for assisted suicide team. Because I said I am pro-choice. The other members of my team were some students who did not give a fuck about this topic. The pro-life team consisted of a daughter of a doctor who later had the perfect grade when she graduated many years ago. Moreover another very eager girl. The mother always was in the first row in the church. So deeply religious. Though I cannot remember the last member of the pro-life team.

To sum it up I destroyed them during the debate. Even the religion teacher (absolutely pro-life) came to me after the debate and wanted to look again at the notes I have made. He wrote a praise in my notebook. I cannot exactly remember the details of the debate. I think I still know some points. The pro-lifers wanted to be the compassionate ones who wanted to save lives. And considered the other side as immoral. My final point was (I think) that there are some people who simply don't want to live, suffer every single day and we leave this people alone. This is not compassionate. This is not what christianity is about. (To that point I somewhat believed in God. Now I am atheist.) The argument was good because I used their religion against them. LOL

Sorry for this long story. Roundabout one year after this event I developed my first hypomania and also the first suicidal thoughts began. As I said during my first severe depression with severe suicidality I was glad I was always on the right side. For me suicide has always an ethical perspective.
I am not sure why my brain works so selective. I barely remember the stuff I have learned last week for college. But there are some events many of them suicide related which I don't forget that easily.
 
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motel rooms

Survivor of incest. Gay. Please don't PM me.
Apr 13, 2021
7,081
Yeah, I've always been pro-choice. Probably because I became passively suicidal as a child.
 
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Insomniac

𝔄 𝔲 𝔱 𝔦 𝔰 𝔪
May 21, 2021
1,357
no. but at some point, I learned that it was okay to let people experience life if they want to.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,488
Yes, I have always been pro choice, I have always understood why people feel the need to ctb and I have respected their decisions. I have been suicidal since I was very young. From a young age I found death comforting and could never understand people who have enjoyed life. I am not meant for this world.
 
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D&D

D&D

Write something, even if it’s just a suicide note.
Dec 3, 2021
252
I have always believed in freedom of choice. For anything.

But that's easy. Most people would say the same ... an adult should be able to choose.

Only when faced with death at the very close proximity ... a proximity of a mirror, one starts to understand, really understand the meaning of pro-choice. Not whether or not one is able to enjoy life, or even tolerate life ... those are considerations of living, however miserably it might be. In the mirror there is one and only that consideration - pull the plug.

I will always defend freedom of choice. Only now I know what it really means. That there has to be a choice to start with. Often there is not. There is only a wall. In front of the wall there is no freedom.
 
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Callie Arcale

It’s a tale told by an idiot signifying nothing
Feb 10, 2021
852
No.

I used to be an insufferable pro-life, know-it-all, unicorns & rainbows kind of person until I became severely ill and saw life for what it was: a cruel and lonely place where people suffer in unimaginable ways and then die.

I have always been pro-choice when it comes to abortion, though, so at least that's that.
 
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Elegy

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Nov 14, 2021
149
I'm 58 and I've always been Pro ... Fuck-Off -- It's MY Life - Not YOURs.
Cue Animals. It's my life and I'll do what I want. It's my mind and I'll think what I want..

As of December, 2021... I am still 100% pro-choice, insofar as it is; Every adult individual's natural, or god-given, right to decide for themselves whether they want to live or to die. Not society's. Not the Government's. Not even God's. It is nobody's right but our own.
 
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nameeater

nameeater

the one with many regrets
Nov 21, 2021
105
absolutely, you have a right to do what you want with your life. it still really upsets me when suicide is the only option for some people, but i understand.
 
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Crazy4u

Crazy4u

Enlightened
Sep 29, 2021
1,318
no. I was stupid and delusional
 
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I can remember when I first made up my mind concerning assisted suicide. It was in 7th class religon lessons (this is many many years since). To that time I was supporter of the christian-conservative party in my country. I can remember this very well (my memory is highly selective) . I watched some talk-shows and read some newspaper articles in order to do my homework in order to collect pro and contra arguments. So I watched the politicians of my favorite party explaining why suffering people should not have the right to choose about their death. I spottet they were talking bullshit after some time.
(No joke this is roundabout a decade ago but I can remember it. I was proud about that after my first psychosis and I thought a lot about it. The psychosis happened some years after this debate.)
In class our religion teacher wanted to have a debate. He forced me to be member of the pro-argument for assisted suicide team. Because I said I am pro-choice. The other members of my team were some students who did not give a fuck about this topic. The pro-life team consisted of a daughter of a doctor who later had the perfect grade when she graduated many years ago. Moreover another very eager girl. The mother always was in the first row in the church. So deeply religious. Though I cannot remember the last member of the pro-life team.

To sum it up I destroyed them during the debate. Even the religion teacher (absolutely pro-life) came to me after the debate and wanted to look again at the notes I have made. He wrote a praise in my notebook. I cannot exactly remember the details of the debate. I think I still know some points. The pro-lifers wanted to be the compassionate ones who wanted to save lives. And considered the other side as immoral. My final point was (I think) that there are some people who simply don't want to live, suffer every single day and we leave this people alone. This is not compassionate. This is not what christianity is about. (To that point I somewhat believed in God. Now I am atheist.) The argument was good because I used their religion against them. LOL

Sorry for this long story. Roundabout one year after this event I developed my first hypomania and also the first suicidal thoughts began. As I said during my first severe depression with severe suicidality I was glad I was always on the right side. For me suicide has always an ethical perspective.
I am not sure why my brain works so selective. I barely remember the stuff I have learned last week for college. But there are some events many of them suicide related which I don't forget that easily.
It is good not to knock them. People come "knocking on heaven's door" who are critically mentally ill, suffering, depressed, homeless. Pain can only be so severe before they give someone a pain-killer or a sedative. It's only natural to freak out when hell's broken loose. I'd like to point out people who became so enraged when they couldn't find their keys, a spot existed on the counter (stain), no more wire hangers types who can't even handle petty things. RAGE! Fists! Anger. People can only take so much and I've never wanted to see anyone kill themselves but empathize because I have triggers that set me off until I can't see straight. Like: We're women - He gives.
 
wanttogetonthebus

wanttogetonthebus

chronically unlucky
Nov 27, 2021
405
I can remember when I first made up my mind concerning assisted suicide. It was in 7th class religon lessons (this is many many years since). To that time I was supporter of the christian-conservative party in my country. I can remember this very well (my memory is highly selective) . I watched some talk-shows and read some newspaper articles in order to do my homework in order to collect pro and contra arguments. So I watched the politicians of my favorite party explaining why suffering people should not have the right to choose about their death. I spottet they were talking bullshit after some time.
(No joke this is roundabout a decade ago but I can remember it. I was proud about that after my first psychosis and I thought a lot about it. The psychosis happened some years after this debate.)
In class our religion teacher wanted to have a debate. He forced me to be member of the pro-argument for assisted suicide team. Because I said I am pro-choice. The other members of my team were some students who did not give a fuck about this topic. The pro-life team consisted of a daughter of a doctor who later had the perfect grade when she graduated many years ago. Moreover another very eager girl. The mother always was in the first row in the church. So deeply religious. Though I cannot remember the last member of the pro-life team.

To sum it up I destroyed them during the debate. Even the religion teacher (absolutely pro-life) came to me after the debate and wanted to look again at the notes I have made. He wrote a praise in my notebook. I cannot exactly remember the details of the debate. I think I still know some points. The pro-lifers wanted to be the compassionate ones who wanted to save lives. And considered the other side as immoral. My final point was (I think) that there are some people who simply don't want to live, suffer every single day and we leave this people alone. This is not compassionate. This is not what christianity is about. (To that point I somewhat believed in God. Now I am atheist.) The argument was good because I used their religion against them. LOL

Sorry for this long story. Roundabout one year after this event I developed my first hypomania and also the first suicidal thoughts began. As I said during my first severe depression with severe suicidality I was glad I was always on the right side. For me suicide has always an ethical perspective.
I am not sure why my brain works so selective. I barely remember the stuff I have learned last week for college. But there are some events many of them suicide related which I don't forget that easily.
Always have been.
 
WrongPlaceWrongTime

WrongPlaceWrongTime

Better never to have been
Jul 4, 2021
695
I've always been pro-"mind your own business", so pretty much.
 
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Snake of Eden

Snake of Eden

“Ye shall be as gods..🍎 🐍”
Jun 22, 2021
2,473
Yes. I dont think people should be kept alive against their desires. However, I am not into the idea of overindulging/promoting suicide as a solution to all. I think it is dangerous message that can affect youth more than anything. That goes with making euthansia available for all adults but restricted with some buearacracy to make sure that this is what the person wants.
 
HiImPaul

HiImPaul

Student
Nov 5, 2021
125
I've always been pro-choice when it came to physical illnesses that caused extreme pain and terminal illnesses. Physical pain is something everyone has experienced so it was quite easy to relate to how someone in extreme pain would want to die.

Until recently I was pro-life regarding mental illness. I had no experience with any mental illness besides some social anxiety, so I couldn't imagine how someone would want to die because they were extremely depressed. Now I definitely can and completely understand. So now I'm pro-choice for both.
 
Geturdone

Geturdone

Getting old ain't for sissies
Dec 9, 2021
85
Yes always pro-choice .... On all topics I can think of. Who am I to say what decisions another person makes. Still, I find it most ironic, when encountering a pro-lifer, they often support the death penalty at the same time.
 
emmarg

emmarg

Member
Dec 10, 2021
36
No, I unfortunately grew up in Catholic school and the corresponding community. Always thought the way I felt was a sin, it would send me to hell, etc. After I went to college, I realized that was totally tone deaf.
 
Dot

Dot

Info abt typng styl on prfle.
Sep 26, 2021
3,252
Ctb opinn ws simlr 2 vws on abortn. Nvr sw eithr as 'gd' bt flt ppl shld b abl 2 lve thr own lves & cn undrstnd y eithr cld b needd & jst hopd wld nvr prsnlly b in postn 2 hve 2 mke chce on it. Alwys blvd ppl cld gt bttr. Am stll gr8fl ws nvr in postn 2 need an abrtn bt nvr thght wld end up feelng nd 2 ctb.
Yes always pro-choice .... On all topics I can think of. Who am I to say what decisions another person makes. Still, I find it most ironic, when encountering a pro-lifer, they often support the death penalty at the same time.
Hve thght th sme abt dth pnalty ppl.
 
yive

yive

life is evil
Nov 6, 2020
695
yes. when i was a child, i even thought that euthanasia was available for every adult in the world. i've never been so wrong! :(
 
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VoidDesirer22

VoidDesirer22

A dream inside a locked room
Sep 6, 2021
673
Pro-choice since the day I was born.
 
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Wrennie

Wrennie

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Dec 18, 2019
1,546
Yes, actually. Even before I reached the double digits. Suicide has always been my neighbor.
 
*Psyche*

*Psyche*

Someday, I hope to see you in the light.
Dec 10, 2021
57
This is truly a thought provoking question... at least for me. The short answer would be, "no, not always." However, that answer has evolved for many reasons over the years.
When I was young (pre-teens) I was already suicidal. I thought the choice to die, for me, should be mine because I was the one in insufferable mental & emotional pain. I couldn't see beyond my own nose, of course. I now know children & teens should not be given this choice (with the exception of terminal illness & intense counseling & parental permission).
When I was in my early 20s, I heard about Jack Kevorkian being arrested for assisted suicide. As I looked more into him & the issue of AS I realized that he was only providing an act of kindness for those enduring the end of a painful terminal illness. That began my pro-choice stance for terminally ill patients.
Between then & sometime more recently I'd not been generally pro-choice, per-say. I thought it was ok for the terminally ill & myself to choose, but not so much everyone else. It wasn't that I held it against them, but if someone mentioned they felt suicidal, I felt it was in their best interest to talk them out of it & try to help them through it. These people were individuals I knew & I believed I could see the value in their life that they could not at that moment.
When my BFF ctb (almost 10 years ago) I became staunchly anti-choice (but still with the caveat for the terminally ill). I even volunteered for my local suicide hotline for a short time, until I realized I wasn't truly being very helpful to most of the callers. I refuse to call there now - not just out of fear of recognition, but also because I already know what they will say.
As of now, yes, I'm pro-choice. I still don't think most children should be allowed to make that decision. Terminally ill should absolutely have a right to do so. Otherwise, who am I to be the arbitrar of another person's pain - physical or mental?
I do hope that people take the time to do their research & talk openly & frankly with others about their desires before doing so & don't do so in an impulsive state of mind. It's not something to be taken lightly. But I do hope whatever a person's decision, that it brings them peace. ❤
 
forgotten15

forgotten15

Specialist
Aug 24, 2021
332
Absolutely yes. I have been suicidal from a very young age so it's natural.