Has anyone else ever NOT been encouraged to commit suicide on here

[Ankou]

Not on this website. But I have been told to kill myself multiple times when I was in school, so let's shut down my school! Pro life logic

 

[Crazy4u]

These people have the listening skills of a stone. It's pointless to try and reason with them.

I agree. They want revenge. They don't care about suicide

 

[cambrai33]

They can cry me a river. It's likely that they contributed significantly to the suffering of their daughter. I know that my parents did. It's all post-mortem virtue signalling.

Please stop this horseshit!

You don't know that at all. Whilst we don't agree with her aims would it be possible to separate the loss of a child from this, I don't know the motivations of her child but I absolutely believe she has a right to grieve without being blamed for it.

 

[ItsMe-Hecked]

Please stop this horseshit!

You don't know that at all. Whilst we don't agree with her aims would it be possible to separate the loss of a child from this, I don't know the motivations of her child but I absolutely believe she has a right to grieve without being blamed for it.

alright. i was speaking hypothetically. my parents are likely to react similarly when i ctb.

 

[cambrai33]

alright.

Thank you, sorry to come across the way I did, it just doesn't sit comfortable with me

 

[ItsMe-Hecked]

Thank you, sorry to come across the way I did, it just doesn't sit comfortable with me

I mean, it's whatever. People can react in whatever way helps them cope. I just don't believe that grieving benefits the person who died.

 

[cambrai33]

I mean, it's whatever. People can react in whatever way helps them cope. I just don't believe that grieving benefits the person who died.

No but blaming a mother for the loss of her child without any evidence isn't right.

Grieving isn't a choice either, it's a natural emotion that takes over you when you lose someone

 

[ItsMe-Hecked]

No but blaming a mother for the loss of her child without any evidence isn't right.

Grieving isn't a choice either, it's a natural emotion that takes over you when you lose someone

Fair enough.

 

[Callie Arcale]

Grieving isn't a choice either, it's a natural emotion that takes over you when you lose someone

I don't usually talk about this group of people because I understand they have lost someone they loved and they are, as you say, "grieving" which is a lengthy and convoluted process.

But I must say this: it doesn't sit well with me that their grieving process involves villifying and blaming people whose own tragedies and traumas they cannot even begin to comprehend.

I will leave it at that.

 

[cambrai33]

I don't usually talk about this group of people because I understand they have lost someone they loved and they are, as you say, "grieving" which is a lengthy and convoluted process.

But I must say this: it doesn't sit well with me that their grieving process involves villifying and blaming people whose own tragedies and traumas they cannot even begin to comprehend.

I will leave it at that.

You make a fair point

I try to separate the two things

 

[Lost Magic]

I have never been encouraged to end my life here. I just told people my plans and they just listened and gave me good support. I have, however, been to other chat programs and I have been told to grab a sturdy chair and hang. I reported that incident but the moderators don't give a fuck and yet this site gets the New York Times on its case. Unbelievable!

 

[Bleak]

Yep. Here's a thought.

What about the harm that is caused on FB and on Twitter and which in some cases has resulted in suicides of young vulnerable individuals? Try shut them down using the same logic and see how far you get? This site is being conveniently scapegoated and is a soft target. Amusingly the proposed amendments to Section 230 are not only going to affect this site. FB and Twitter are not immune either although I'm figuring they'll find a way. Let's see how smooth this all goes down.

Or what about the entertainment industry? It's becoming increasingly difficult to find a new movie or series that doesn't contain gratuitous and graphic violence and suicide. I'd love to see the ensuing shit storm should one of these groups start advocating for old fashioned censorship. That PG rating shit hasn't worked for decades if ever. There would be an outcry bar none under the guise of the protection of freedom of speech and expression. Funny that wouldn't fly with this site with anybody I'm sure. And not to mention the gaming industry. All of this stuff is merely desensitising these vulnerable individuals that everybody bangs on about if not depicting methods albeit that they're misguided and technically lacking and/or invalid.

This reminds me of Facebook's internal research they did about how Instagram is destroying kid's self esteem and mental health. I wonder just how many suicides the whole toxic swamp of social media is responsible for.

 

[montana007]

This reminds me of Facebook's internal research they did about how Instagram is destroying kid's self esteem and mental health. I wonder just how many suicides the whole toxic swamp of social media is responsible for.

Um yeah. Just yesterday some poor teen took herself out in Egypt as a direct result of two other little idiots that took compromising pics. of her and then just happened to use one of these fucking platforms to distribute their Photoshopped version. And the number of reports I've read where this type of thing has happened (pics. or messages) that have been reported to the platforms themselves or have literally begged the platforms to remove the offending but have been ignored or given some bullshit reason why there is nothing they can do. It's just not funny.

Fucking best thing; you just try and upload a video to YT that has music (even playing in the background) and it's not two fucking minutes later that you're slapped with a copyright violation.

 

[Pluto]

Actually I have been repeatedly encouraged to CTB by one member on here. His user name is Pluto.

 

[Marktheghost]

Actually I have been repeatedly encouraged to CTB by one member on here. His user name is Pluto.

I was about to suggest you report him to the moderators, and then I saw what your own username was!

 

[little helpers]

aw fuck, it only occured to me a few seconds ago that what the NYT and FixThe26 motherfuckers are working to do, is redefine the word "suicidal" as fucking "homicidal"

now you gon wanna ask, is this a new idea? aren't they already calling us "murderers"?

well, in any discourse, linguistics is a very big deal. change the part of speech and it means something very different. it changes the way people approach a topic, the way their thinking is led and framed.

it's easy to demonize people with a noun. a permanent sticker of who they've been alleged (by others) to be. but the juxtaposition of "suicidal" and "homicidal" is powerful. they share the same part of speech and can easily be distinguished from one another.

now it constitutes a fundamental insult to the English language if they are to argue these are the same things.

not sure if it helps but I hope so. @Tintypographer

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

When people don't/can't understand a community, it's easy to paint that community in any light and people will accept it. It's how minority groups have been demonized for centuries, millennia even.

People who are not suicidal can't really understand what goes through our mind. People with a passion for life, no matter how daunting its challenges, can't really understand what it's like to have a brain that tells you constantly, "I just don't want to be here." Not even those who study the brain can really understand it. They can posit theories, but they can't know what it's like to live like us or to think like us. Those grieving parents have no idea the pain and torture that plagued their child's life every day. They can't really understand. To them, life is something to be cherished. Death is destruction and disaster, not peace.

A few months ago, a colleague of mine shared with me a story of a friend of his who had committed suicide the previous week. He shared it, along with thoughts like, "Check up on those you haven't talked to in a while." I know his grief was real and that he really missed his friend and wished the friend hadn't died. In my mind, though, I felt only two things - 1) sadness that the friend had reached to that point; 2) relief that the friend had found peace.

I've accepted that we won't ever be understood. As a member of several other minority groups, I also know that the misunderstood are easy to paint as villains. So I keep my mouth shut to the world and hide away in this little corner until my bus arrives.

 

[Soulless Angel]

wrote this in 2020....

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/oi-those-of-you-against-this-forum.50547/

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Everyone here has encouraged me to make my own choices and decisions. I've always been offered empathy or suggestions for quality of life improvements in my threads, and tend to notice the same pattern when I'm reading postings from others.

The majority here do want to see the rest of the crew find fulfillment and happiness in life. However, this tends to be a perceptive bunch and many are aware that happily ever after fairytale outcomes are not always possible, so they may tailor their style of comfort to acknowledge this fact.

To have immense bursts of hope is wistful thinking for those who have suffered for years upon years upon decades. It's nice to have an outlet where others don't regard my choice for ctb as pure insanity and can rationally level the pros and cons of living or dying. Everywhere else, the aura will become hysterical, as others vehemently insist that life is a gift no matter what.

Keeping it real is what I appreciate. No one here "encourages" me to do anything, they simply acknowledge the pain that those in the real world consistently ignore. I've gotten way more compassion here than I have anywhere else. On other social medias I have been agged on to kill myself as an insult, and experienced actual harassment. No one is calling for fscebook and Instagram to be shut down though.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

It's nice to have an outlet where others don't regard my choice for ctb as pure insanity and can rationally level the pros and cons of living or dying. Everywhere else, the aura will become hysterical, as others vehemently insist that life is a gift no matter what.

Keeping it real is what I appreciate. No one here "encourages" me to do anything, they simply acknowledge the pain that those in the real world consistently ignore.

Extremely well put.

 

[Soulless Angel]

On other social medias I have been agged on to kill myself as an insult, and experienced actual harassment. No one is calling for fscebook and Instagram to be shut down though.

Other social medias are different though, A single post can be reported, and it will then be reviewed and removed, lost into a black hole never to be seen again, away from the people who are too sensitive to this side of life,
the twatwaffles against this place know its a dedicated site towards any aspect of suicide, (they seem to refuse to acknowledge the recovery part) and so as such, they are demanding this place be removed,
they know the creators and owners of this site understand and respect freedom of choice, to the twatwaffles, this isn't acceptable as you can only be pro life in their eyes.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

I read over and over again that the people on this website encourage the vulnerable to commit suicide. I've been suicidal for years and have posted many times about my desire to take my own life. But not one single person has ever, on this website forum, one single time encouraged me, reached out to sell me something or bullied me.

By comparison my closest friends not on this website have said "if you were serious you would have made a plan and taken your own life"

I'd like to hear and try to count those individuals who have posted on here and have NOT been encouraged to take their own life.

Notice there is a DIFFERENCE between encouraging or manipulating someone into suicide and commiserating with someone who has shared that they hope to die.

Has anyone posted on here that they were despondent and wanted to take their own life and were then treated with respect but NOT MANIPULATED OR encouraged to take their own life.

I'd like to hear your stories and hear how many have posted here and shared their depression and sadness but were NOT encouraged to commit suicide.
And I'd love to see if Kelli on fix the 26 posts any of these stories in her narrative.

No one on this site has ever encouraged me to commit suicide. I have only received kindness and understanding that I can't find anywhere else.

 

[StevieNixs]

I read over and over again that the people on this website encourage the vulnerable to commit suicide. I've been suicidal for years and have posted many times about my desire to take my own life. But not one single person has ever, on this website forum, one single time encouraged me, reached out to sell me something or bullied me.

By comparison my closest friends not on this website have said "if you were serious you would have made a plan and taken your own life"

I'd like to hear and try to count those individuals who have posted on here and have NOT been encouraged to take their own life.

Notice there is a DIFFERENCE between encouraging or manipulating someone into suicide and commiserating with someone who has shared that they hope to die.

Has anyone posted on here that they were despondent and wanted to take their own life and were then treated with respect but NOT MANIPULATED OR encouraged to take their own life.

I'd like to hear your stories and hear how many have posted here and shared their depression and sadness but were NOT encouraged to commit suicide.
And I'd love to see if Kelli on fix the 26 posts any of these stories in her narrative.

I have been:
Overly encouraged by one user and told suicide is fantastic
Told not to use the gold standard by another as it is unreliable and painful - both comments about this method are untruths.
So.. now my levels of suspicion have intensified.

 

[whatevs]

There is no encouragement whatsoever, but ample help is given. This alone is enough for most people to push for censorship and criminalization.

 

[ameliacecelia]

Someone who was recently banned try to talk me out of it. I found it insulting. I have a physical condition that has led me here. Might be MS and/or mitochondrial related but I'm not waiting around for the spinal MRI and muscle punch. I'm enjoying a nice last weekend with family before I go.

 

[downndone2]

I have not seen or experienced this. Everyone seems supportive to other members. No one is bullying, provoking, or encouraging others to ctb.

 

[rancidJLJL]

Yeh i agree with Nightmare Painting and little helpers:

Its a natural human reaction to everything that there is a story. Human brains are wired for narrative stories. Good guys, Bad guys, etc.
Because this forum is often the common denominator amongst those who ctb, it gets portrayed as the bad guy by their loved ones.
Especially when there is grief/tragedy involved humans will often make wild assumptions, omit certain facts, swap information around or even invent an entirely new story. Its a natural defence mechanism. I firmly believe that without this defence, many people in this situation would not be able to cope and would likely suffer serious mental breakdown.

This is a really good read on the subject:

 

[hellispink]

All I have received is understanding, support. I feel less lonely and less overwhelmed since I have you all. It is so sad to be struggling and that no one understands or they judge or have stigma. This space is free. I have never seen anyone encouraging anyone to anything. We are all free to act upon our own convictions and decisions.

 

[chloramine]

I haven't been here long but I have neither experienced or seen anyone encouraging anyone else to die. I've seen a lot of support and cautioning against dangerous methods. I've seen support when people try those methods anyways and it doesn't go well which really speaks to the kindness of the community.

 

[Euthanza]

I didn't find suicide provocation in this forum, nonetheless.

Instead, when I read pro-life arguments from FT26 in NYT or when I see some suicide preventors' posts trying so hard to prolong suffering by all means -even disrespecting one's autonomy or decision, then I know that I should CTB because the world where Right To Die isn't acknowledged is the very world I don't want to live in, it's a very sick world to endure with so much bull shits. Pro-lifers don't tell us to die because they are happily gaining benefit to keep us no choice but cruelly insist a painful life just like theirs so everyone's end of life becomes miserable.