Help Hanging if you are overweight/obsese

[gameoverman]

I was planning to do full suspension hanging ,bought ropes,scouted trees in my area but I began to wonder if it's a viable method for someone who is overweight/obese. I'm a guy about 178cm tall and I weigh about 110kg.

What do you think,will hanging work for me provided that the rope is strong enough?

 

[U. A.]

not just the rope but the tree matter; people have woken up after a branch snapped on them.
you don't want brain damage - please be careful

 

[gameoverman]

not just the rope but the tree matter; people have woken up after a branch snapped on them.
you don't want brain damage - please be careful

Yeah I know that's why I scouted for safe anchor points and despite the fact that I live near forests there are almost no suitable branches it's ridiculous lol.

What I'm worried about is that if I'm overweight/obese and have a fat neck will the rope be able to penetrate to arteries and make me pass out.

 

[JesiBel]

What I'm worried about is that if I'm overweight/obese and have a fat neck will the rope be able to penetrate to arteries and make me pass out.

Maybe if your neck is thick, you can do some tests first..

Touch with your fingers on both sides of your neck, can you feel a strong pulse well?

'How to locate the carotid arteries?'

You can tie the ligature and place it on your neck (like a necklace) in its correct position: under your jaw and with the knot behind your neck in the center. And pull the free end with your hands to apply pressure. You can use the Arbor Knot for this, as it slides and tightens itself. When you apply pressure, you should feel your vision begin to darken and a general feeling of lightness.

 

[gameoverman]

Maybe if your neck is thick, you can do some tests first..

Touch with your fingers on both sides of your neck, can you feel a strong pulse well?

'How to locate the carotid arteries?'

You can tie the ligature and place it on your neck (like a necklace) in its correct position: under your jaw and with the knot behind your neck in the center. And pull the free end with your hands to apply pressure. You can use the Arbor Knot for this, as it slides and tightens itself. When you apply pressure, you should feel your vision begin to darken and a general feeling of lightness.

I can feel pulse in some places but it's not very strong. Also I have 12mm and 14mm polypropylene ropes but don't know which one would be better?

I'm quite conflicted, I don't know if hanging will work for me but I'm desperate as I don't have any other methods available besides SN which I don't really trust.

 

[JesiBel]

I can feel pulse in some places but it's not very strong. Also I have 12mm and 14mm polypropylene ropes but don't know which one would be better?

I'm quite conflicted, I don't know if hanging will work for me but I'm desperate as I don't have any other methods available besides SN which I don't really trust.

Honestly, I don't see any problem with it not working. In full suspension, all your weight will exert pressure and will block the carotid arteries. The rope will penetrate your neck thanks to gravity, your entire body weight suspended and the ligature knot tightening itself (arbor knot or also known as noose knot with stopper knot)
You can also feel your pulse, so your arteries are not difficult to access.

Brief summary of some points in the Hanging method.

It's always important to test your anchor point and rope to ensure they're strong and can support your weight.

If your anchor point will be trees, you can read this thread to choose the right one:

Thread 'Trees to use for hanging - from a tree expert'

Both ropes are fine. You can test them both, as I mentioned in the previous post, and see which one is better for you.

Don't make any hasty attempts.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

I was planning to do full suspension hanging ,bought ropes,scouted trees in my area but I began to wonder if it's a viable method for someone who is overweight/obese. I'm a guy about 178cm tall and I weigh about 110kg.

What do you think,will hanging work for me provided that the rope is strong enough?

Full hanging will work perfectly if you are overweiht, you should be more concerned if you are a light weight MMA fighter with a muscular neck.

 

[gameoverman]

Honestly, I don't see any problem with it not working.

It's because I recall seeing your post in some other thread saying that hanging is not a method for overweight/obese people so I started having doubts.

 

[JesiBel]

It's because I recall seeing your post in some other thread saying that hanging is not a method for overweight/obese people so I started having doubts.

It depends on how "obese" you are; there are many people who have almost no neck, due to the large amount of adipose tissue they have.
Another case would be people with very muscular and thick necks.

That's why I recommended that you do test with the ligature on your neck.

If you can feel your pulse, it means there isn't too much tissue making access impossible.

In this video, the man is overweight and has clearly attempted successfully:

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/270167/sergey-kirilovs-suicide-by-hanging-during

 

[letmeseethedeath]

can i ask you approximately how much it took to Sergey Kirilov to die? i'm scared ill suffer but i want to go forever

 

[JesiBel]

can i ask you approximately how much it took to Sergey Kirilov to die? i'm scared ill suffer but i want to go forever

- Min 1:23 - He is suspended in the air with the ligature tightening around his neck.
- Min 1:34 - He begins with spasms and convulsions
- Min 2:30 - Start agonal breathing
- Min 3:31 - Any type of movement stops

Explanation of all phases of the Hanging death mechanism: 2 research pdfs

When the supply of oxygenated blood flow to the brain stops due to complete blockage of the carotid arteries, in 15 seconds or less you will lose consciousness, and you will no longer feel anything that will happen next.

Very explanatory video on how consciousness is rapidly lost due to the blockage of oxygenated blood supply to the brain.

Then begins the phases of: spasms and convulsions, decerebrate/decorticate rigidity, abdominal movements, agonal breathing (not all people experience all the stages, some quickly become completely immobile)

Death occurs in less than half an hour.

Brief summary about brain oxygen deprivation and death

Hanging agonal breath info (Basic reflex of the dying brain, results from anoxic brain injury, not a response to conscious awareness)

If you want to read/watch more about the method, I leave you this:

Brief summary of some points in the Hanging method.

Thread 'Videos of succesful hangings'

 

[letmeseethedeath]

- Min 1:23 - He is suspended in the air with the ligature tightening around his neck.
- Min 1:34 - He begins with spasms and convulsions
- Min 2:30 - Start agonal breathing
- Min 3:31 - Any type of movement stops

Explanation of all phases of the Hanging death mechanism: 2 research pdfs

When the supply of oxygenated blood flow to the brain stops due to complete blockage of the carotid arteries, in 15 seconds or less you will lose consciousness, and you will no longer feel anything that will happen next.

Very explanatory video on how consciousness is rapidly lost due to the blockage of oxygenated blood supply to the brain.

Then begins the phases of: spasms and convulsions, decerebrate/decorticate rigidity, abdominal movements, agonal breathing (not all people experience all the stages, some quickly become completely immobile)

Death occurs in less than half an hour.

Brief summary about brain oxygen deprivation and death

Hanging agonal breath info (Basic reflex of the dying brain, results from anoxic brain injury, not a response to conscious awareness)

If you want to read/watch more about the method, I leave you this:

Brief summary of some points in the Hanging method.

Thread 'Videos of succesful hangings'

thank you so much
i hope when i'll have the courage to ctb i won't have agony, i'm afraid of this

 

[gameoverman]

It depends on how "obese" you are; there are many people who have almost no neck, due to the large amount of adipose tissue they have.
Another case would be people with very muscular and thick necks.

That's why I recommended that you do test with the ligature on your neck.

If you can feel your pulse, it means there isn't too much tissue making access impossible.

In this video, the man is overweight and has clearly attempted successfully:

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/270167/sergey-kirilovs-suicide-by-hanging-during

Well, I'm somewhat more overweight than the man in the video so I'm worried. What would happen if my neck is too thick? Would that mean that instead of losing consciousness in seconds I will be choking for minutes or I won't even die?

 

[JesiBel]

Well, I'm somewhat more overweight than the man in the video so I'm worried. What would happen if my neck is too thick? Would that mean that instead of losing consciousness in seconds I will be choking for minutes or I won't even die?

Regarding the subject, the only case I remember is the one of Ronald Post (450 pounds), a convict who was declared "too obese to be hanged" (although the method here is an execution with Drop Hanging, and not Full Suspension Hanging)

Excerpt from the news:

Ronald Post, who shot and killed a hotel clerk in northern Ohio almost 30 years ago, said his weight, vein access, scar tissue, depression and other medical problems raise the likelihood his executioners would encounter severe problems. He's also so big that the execution gurney might not hold him, lawyers for Post said in federal court papers filed Friday.
"Indeed, given his unique physical and medical condition there is a substantial risk that any attempt to execute him will result in serious physical and psychological pain to him, as well as an execution involving a torturous and lingering death," the filing said.

Full article
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The mechanism of death in Full Suspension (also in Partial) is to block the carotid arteries, stopping the flow of oxygenated blood to the brain. A successful blockage will cause you to lose consciousness in a matter of seconds. The rope must penetrate deep into the neck to access these arteries.
If you have a lot of adipose tissue or if you exercise and have stiffer and more developed/big muscles, then you may have an impediment to achieving proper access.

That's why I reiterate the importance of testing. It's the only way to get to know your own body before attempting (and know if the method will work properly for you or not)

How to practice safely

 

[hmnow]

You would think being overweight is an advantage with FSH. The whole idea is to cut off blood to your brain, and extra weight will make that easier if you have the right rope and anchor.

I am hoping mu weight will be enough to cut that blood off, and only concious for a few seconds after I step off