Getting N from A. Things everyone should know.

[Notabadguy]

Don't get angry. People downlado material, it's what it's.

 

[james244]

Don't get angry. People downlado material, it's what it's.

I get angry because but stealing the content it curbs the scale of the activity of exit and limits their ability to pursue important projects as they step deprived of the resources.

 

[Notabadguy]

I think you're overreacting. So, If I don't have money for that, shoud I risk ending up vegetable? We're not talking about music or movies.
But we're derailing the thread. We should start one about piracty, not derailing this one.

 

[danilion]

I think you're overreacting. So, If I don't have money for that, shoud I risk ending up vegetable? We're not talking about music or movies.
But we're derailing the thread. We should start one about piracty, not derailing this one.

I agree. I came here to read about buying N from A. I have ordered and I am not interested in this discussion about the morality of downloading material.

 

[calendulo]

The price for N from A is just absolutely crazy right now...I'm getting ready to shell out about 900 dollars in cash to convert it to BTC, to send it to A, and I get two bottles of N in return. I really wish this stuff could be much easily synthesized at home with the proper equipment, information, and chemicals by someone with basic chemistry knowledge to create. I don't think that it would become another epidemic such as people buying Sudafed just to shove strips of metal from a battery, some acid, and powdered pseudoephedrine into a gatorade bottle for an hour just to get methamphetamine to last for 36 minutes of smoking their brain cells away. If I could buy the equipment and find reliable instructions this would have been something that I would have attempted to create on my own.

It is a long post, just two or three points of view.
900$ is not much more than I paid.............as we are seeing how is the world, especially US. I expected N were more expensive.
I did read something about a lot of clonazepam and Sn. You have nothing. Maybe you could to write a good post about a weird suicide attempt.
And finally I saw something about meto, Forget it, meto is totally useless.

 

[danilion]

It is a long post, just two or three points of view.
900$ is not much more than I paid.............as we are seeing how is the world, especially US. I expected N were more expensive.
I did read something about a lot of clonazepam and Sn. You have nothing. Maybe you could to write a good post about a weird suicide attempt.
And finally I saw something about meto, Forget it, meto is totally useless.

Where did you read that Meto is useless?
I asked A about meto and he responded about Dramamine and that sometimes it helps with nausea but it makes his stomach ache. (I know they arent the same drug)

 

[calendulo]

Where did you read that Meto is useless?
I asked A about meto and he responded about Dramamine and that sometimes it helps with nausea but it makes his stomach ache. (I know they arent the same drug)

In thousand places..................and especially by my own experience, but does not mind. If you are happy taking it, so do it.
What kills you is N, not Meto....

I do not know what is dramamine, but I have doubts about its utility.

 

[danilion]

In thousand places..................and especially by my own experience, but does not mind. If you are happy taking it, so do it.
What kills you is N, not Meto....

I do not know what is dramamine, but I have doubts about its utility.

I am not taking Meto because it kills me. I am taking it so I dont vomit. And I dont see why Meto wouldnt help with vomiting. That is what it is medically used for. I dont know where you got your info or what you are talking about. If you have something you want to share as far as sources then I would gladly read them

 

[calendulo]

I am not taking Meto because it kills me. I am taking it so I dont vomit. And I dont see why Meto wouldnt help with vomiting. That is what it is medically used for. I dont know where you got your info or what you are talking about. If you have something you want to share as far as sources then I would gladly read them

Do you know that N is a veterinary intravenous sodium solution?. I guess yes you do.
If you are more confident about, take meto. It is a good thing.

 

[anthrax101]

Metoclopramide is very useful for nausea and vomiting especially when it comes to preventing you from throwing up 900 bucks worth of N according to the PPeH...doesn't mean I'm still gonna not take some Zofran and other anti-emetics as well just to prevent myself from vomiting. I just remember that Reglan was one of the best medications for me that prevented me from vomiting before I had my surgery and even after I had it.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

The price for N from A is just absolutely crazy right now...I'm getting ready to shell out about 900 dollars in cash to convert it to BTC, to send it to A, and I get two bottles of N in return. I really wish this stuff could be much easily synthesized at home with the proper equipment, information, and chemicals by someone with basic chemistry knowledge to create. I don't think that it would become another epidemic such as people buying Sudafed just to shove strips of metal from a battery, some acid, and powdered pseudoephedrine into a gatorade bottle for an hour just to get methamphetamine to last for 36 minutes of smoking their brain cells away. If I could buy the equipment and find reliable instructions this would have been something that I would have attempted to create on my own.

I have a question from those who have ordered from A...how "stealthy" are their packages and do we have a guess as to the seizure rate at which these packages are being discovered by the mail police? I'm praying that I'm not just taking a lighter to my 900 dollars in cash but because we know it as the easiest way to CTB I don't see another option besides N. I do have in my possession 180 tablets of 2mg clonazepam and have really considered taking all of that combined with several grams of SN but it still doesn't sound as elegant to me as N does. My plans include a park view late at night, a lot of clonazepam to calm my nerves, and then bottoms up to the N assuming that it arrives. I'm just hoping that the parcels A sends out don't look like the type of packaging that they would use to ship such items and that some postal worker doesn't catch on to what's inside and send in our ever-loving law enforcement to attempt to figure out how we ordered it. I can think of extremely creative ways of sneaking packages like this across country borderlines that could be an excellent way of hiding the contents of the package, and that is my biggest worry about investing so much money in this vet-grade N. Don't get me wrong, I understand the costs and why things are like they are but what A has to pay for the bottles I'm sure is less than a tenth of what they have to pay for them from their distributor. In the grand scheme of things I do hope that this person is doing it out of kindness and not for feeding into their retirement fund.

EDIT: I only realized this evening just how much metoclopramide I have in my possession since it was prescribed to me regularly right before I had my nissen fundoplication surgery (it's for GERD and it tightens your esophagus so that stomach acid can't back up into your throat and cause terrible heartburn). I counted at least 5x 90 count bottles of metoclopramide that are still within the 1 year expiration date that I have no use for, and if I could send say packs of 9/10 tablets to everyone that needed the anti-emetic without getting caught I would but with the law breathing down my neck already there is no reliable way that I could accomplish this without getting caught by someone. It would be so easy to just slip in ten tablets into an envelope inside of a very small container and just for the cost of shipping (it would end up being about $3 for First Class in the USA) I could dole out so much of this stupid crap that it would probably be gone within a day or two at the most.

If I was from the US, I would order from C right now instead of A. Don't see the appeal of A–only if you're planning to inject. Powder is better in terms of storage, amount of liquid, taste, etc...

It is a long post, just two or three points of view.
900$ is not much more than I paid.............as we are seeing how is the world, especially US. I expected N were more expensive.
I did read something about a lot of clonazepam and Sn. You have nothing. Maybe you could to write a good post about a weird suicide attempt.
And finally I saw something about meto, Forget it, meto is totally useless.

Meto isn't useless, it's still the best anti-e there is. I made a post a few days back about a canadian study of twenty subjects who died through auto-ingestion of N and their autopsies showed that most of them hadn't taken meto–most had taken dyphenhydramine, two of them took zofran I think. Twelve of them didn't take any anti emetic. So it might be overrated, as Nitschke himself has repeatedly admitted. But this doesn't mean that taking meto or domperidone isn't advisable as long as you don't have a bad reaction to them and have them available.

 

[enjolras]

@anthrax101 I don't get it that you're hesitating to give away Meto because you're fearing the law and at the same time sincerely pondering if A is drug dealing at outrageous prices (to your taste) out of kindness ! Isn't this thinking anti-logic, to say the least ?

1) providing "tools" to help strangers suicide could bounce back at you and lead to punishment. You might take care of stealth measures on your side to some extent (something to be proven, you announce your will to collect payments, how ?) but there are no guarantees the people to whom you'd offer this service will be as cautious on their side. Lots of people here are in wobbly situations and/or mentally unstable (from illness or just context alone). What tells you just that someone won't forget to disable their account before CTB so your private conversations are out of reach ? Way too many things to list could go wrong.
2) why would anyone accept your generosity, handling away their physical addresses / other info to you, with all the risks it goes with ? Just to save a couple bucks on a drug that is not too hard to get for most with a little effort ? How would you guarantee you're not an agent who's here to track some preys in crisis, to save (pro-life), prosecute them or other hidden intent (LE) ? you'd be ready to help 45+ people ????

I hate it to be suspicious / accuse blindly but your offer comes with a lot of warning and red tape !!

 

[anthrax101]

@anthrax101

I hate it to be suspicious / accuse blindly but your offer comes with a lot of warning and red tape !!

It was meant more along the lines of "if I didn't have plans to CTB I would just send out what I have since it will never get used by me or anyone I know IRL. Then I wouldn't have to worry about LE. " I worry about LE and this pending order every single day to the point that I actually ordered it to another address with family friends and asked them not to open the order when it comes in because it's a secret project for "a someone special."

 

[enjolras]

Because of presumption of innocence, sorry for the extrapolation (...)
You only need 1 ten tabs to follow any type of Meto regimen, it's still time to ditch/conceal your excess stock, if the thought of the minor offense to fail to prove its lawful sourcing is haunting you, to not add to the stress

 

[lizardking]

Those of your recieving your N are you in the US? Or another country. I'ver read on here that DHS is intercepting in the US

 

[james244]

if this is the case,they could be collaborating with foreign law enforcement as they often do so no one is safe

I agree. I came here to read about buying N from A. I have ordered and I am not interested in this discussion about the morality of downloading material.

whether you are not interested in the ethics, can i come and get your smartphone?
we have to be consistent

 

[Busdriver]

Does it mean both customs' interception and welfare check in the Netherlands?
I thought welfare checks were for people with mental conditions who have a history known to the police.
But this indicates you could get a welfare check because of purchased N?

Yes, and it was no 'welfare' check. No history known to the police either.
Just ordered it, received it, and 10 days later they stood at my doorstep, 'forcing' me to let them enter my home because it was to difficult for them to ask their questions outside. Being naive, I let them in. Accusations of having imported N, and sticking in my home (3 of them!) until I surrendered. Stupidest thing I ever did, letting them in, because they had no search warrant. Beware. This happened not in the Netherlands, but nearby.

I was shocked to read this. What are your plans now? Re-order or order at C?
Wish you the best.

 

[danilion]

Those of your recieving your N are you in the US? Or another country. I'ver read on here that DHS is intercepting in the US

Can you reference the place you read about intercepting in the US? I am not in the US but I am sure it has to travel through the US to get to me.

Oh, and did you mean DHL?

 

[enjolras]

whether you are not interested in the ethics, can i come and get your smartphone?
we have to be consistent

To balance things out, Exit has chosen to block <50yo so there was never any money to be made for them on this segment
This site mainly represents this target audience, so those concerned are violating terms rather than stealing value pickpocketing, without taking into account that some will find bypass routes to pay all the same

Conversely, I find it hard to imagine that someone who has reached the age of 50 has the first reflex to worry about using a pirated version without an update, when not under the cover of restrictions to subscribe. Arrived at this age, paying $40 or $ 20 per year (renewals) is no longer an unaffordable investment to balk at giving the best chances to one's destiny

I readjust my judgment to possibly question that the financial impact is as massive as claimed, as it is possible to doubt that the Phillip & Co association is devoid of profit motives lacking to be reinvested
In fact, the MaxDogBrewing site with its outrageous rates is an outlet which seems to prove that there is a business around death when the opportunity is offered, because when the legal risks are circumvented, the age restrictions are quickly forgotten... (same goes for the ReBreather which does not discriminate against its customers - age limit: 21yo)

With this logic and the decisions taken, we can estimate that Exit is in almost total control of its revenues
At most, their biggest shortfall comes from self-censorship fearing the wrath of the law, more than from leaks

 

[Baltazar1713]

If I was from the US, I would order from C right now instead of A. Don't see the appeal of A–only if you're planning to inject. Powder is better in terms of storage, amount of liquid, taste, etc...

Meto isn't useless, it's still the best anti-e there is. I made a post a few days back about a canadian study of twenty subjects who died through auto-ingestion of N and their autopsies showed that most of them hadn't taken meto–most had taken dyphenhydramine, two of them took zofran I think. Twelve of them didn't take any anti emetic. So it might be overrated, as Nitschke himself has repeatedly admitted. But this doesn't mean that taking meto or domperidone isn't advisable as long as you don't have a bad reaction to them and have them available.

What what be the protocol of taking mëto for N? Couldn't find this info in the peaceful handbook

How many grams and how many hours prior to N administration?

 

[lizardking]

Can you reference the place you read about intercepting in the US? I am not in the US but I am sure it has to travel through the US to get to me.

Oh, and did you mean DHL?

No I meant Department of Homeland Security. Search homeland and you'll see some posts.

 

[Busdriver]

I assume your not anonymous if you pay with WU or MoneyGram.
Does anyone who paid with BTC got a visit from LE?

You are still not anonymous if your name and address are mentioned on the package. So if customs intercept the package..you are on some radar.
You guys are so brave for ordering N and withstanding the fear of LE visit.

 

[enjolras]

Once I had an idea but it is sketchy lol didn't practice it
Buy a mailbox for packages, go to a small deserted village where no one will notice, pose it somewhere, mark it with an invented name etiquette, send under this name misc letters to train the postman about the address, then order with the fake name. Well, you got the idea, it can be modified.
I learned that some drug abusers sometime use unoccupied mailboxes left by the neighborhood or at an abandoned building and apply a sticker with a fake name. Oh, I should explain why it is different than buying your own mailbox. With your mailbox you own the keys. With any random mailbox, you have to buy keypasses that open most mailboxes. Usually buildings with rack mailboxes can be opened by a number of standard keys which are used by the postman or under general rules for other purposes

I've got more tricks' ideas like this, to not have to order directly with own name

 

[Busdriver]

Once I had an idea but it is sketchy lol didn't practice it
Buy a mailbox for packages, go to a small deserted village where no one will notice, pose it somewhere, mark it with an invented name etiquette, send under this name misc letters to train the postman about the address, then order with the fake name. Well, you got the idea, it can be modified.
I learned that some drug abusers sometime use unoccupied mailboxes left by the neighborhood or at an abandoned building and apply a sticker with a fake name. Oh, I should explain why it is different than buying your own mailbox. With your mailbox you own the keys. With any random mailbox, you have to buy keypasses that open most mailboxes. Usually buildings with rack mailboxes can be opened by a number of standard keys which are used by the postman or under general rules for other purposes

I've got more tricks' ideas like this, to not have to order directly with own name

Nice idea about the mailbox. I read about it in the 'dark net guides'. But when you buy a mailbox, you probably pay with cash? Because if paid with e.g. Ideal or PayPal, the anonymity is gone.

I don't think in western Europe you can arrange for an anonymous mailbox. The ones I find require bank payment and they want the name to be right, because when picking up a package at a mailbox center, you can be asked for ID.

I like your inventive thinking about ways to order online without mentioning real name.

 

[enjolras]

Nono, we didn't understood each other. I must have explained poorly, sorry
I'm talking of a physical mailbox, made of metal or wood, that you can buy at a furniture store with cash, or online (there are ways to buy anonymously, even on Amazon or PayPal)
Then, you apply your own paper etiquette to the box, and you pose it somewhere, on a small wall, on a stake, even on the ground. Preferably mount it
Feel free to ask any question ! I enjoy brainstorming too, it's a pleasure

 

[Baltazar1713]

I'm anxious as fuck. Today marks the upper limit of the time frame A gave for the shipment to arrive.

I really hope it's a covid delay and may package isn't lost somewhere

 

[Notabadguy]

I'm anxious as fuck. Today marks the upper limit of the time frame A gave for the shipment to arrive.

I really hope it's a covid delay and may package isn't lost somewhere

Do you have a tracking number?

 

[Baltazar1713]

Do you have a tracking number?

There is one but I don't have it, he does.

 

[Notabadguy]

There is one but I don't have it, he does.

Well, I hope all ends up well for you.

Best wishes.

 

[The Dark Chaos]

I have been talking to several other members here and on another CTB forum about current experiences with A. This is a collection of everything that we have experienced dealing with A currently.

I have talked to 7 other people here who have ordered from A.

First, when ordering from A The expectation is to receive sealed 100ml glass bottles of N. A also gives a timeline of 20 to 25 days. A randomly asks some people for their phone numbers also. Can't seem to find a rhyme or reason as to who he requests it from.

My order was for two bottles. My order took 19 days. What was immediately odd though was A had told me my order was shipped 17 days before I received it. And when I got the package I realized it was sent 3 days ago. When I opened the package instead of the two sealed 100ml glass N bottles I was expecting, I had two 60ml unsealed plastic bottles. One of which I could immediately smell the chemical smell of the product. I contacted A with these concerns and A replied that the product was good and I had his word. He did not respond to the amount questions, the unsealed questions, or anything else. He has since stopped responding to any of my emails.

Member 2 also ordered two bottles, and received the same as I did. That member also reached out to A with questions and also is not being responded to. This member decided to have the product tested.

Member 3 ordered two bottles. Received one bottle but at least it is the proper 100ml glass bottle. A has promised to send this member another bottle. Will update if it is received.

Member 4 never received their order. A claims it was probably intercepted. There is no way to confirm or deny this of course.

Member 5 ordered one bottle, received one large ( larger than 100ml ) bottle that was partially used, and not properly sealed.

Member 6 is still waiting for delivery. They ordered two bottles and are now at 27 days.

Member 7 ordered two 100ml bottles and received the two 60ml unsealed bottles yet again. One bottle actually leaked in the package due to not being sealed, and was not clear, with particulates in it.

What I have learned that might be key here is that this is not how A operated before October. Since October however many people are very concerned with how A is operating. On the other forum the talks are similar. People getting the unsealed plastic bottles, getting the wrong orders and so forth.

As soon as the member here gets the test results they will be posted by me or them if they want to post it. Several members involved do not want their names used so please do not ask here or in PM as I will not give them out.

My personal advice right now would be to be very cautious, obviously something is very wrong right now. The product could still very well be N, one of the members actually tasted it and said it tasted similar to what would be expected. But, until the test results come back we do not know for sure. Also, be aware that there is no way of knowing what you might receive right now as in quantity, quality, anything. From people I have spoken to from here and the other forum no one has received 2 100ml sealed glass bottles since around the beginning of November.

I do have to say though that if the test comes back positive for N with at least 60mg/ml that would mean that all of us who got the two 60ml bottles would have about 8gm of N. Which is more than enough to peacefully CTB. So we are of course hoping that is the case.

Now, with all the transferred and unsealed product we also have to worry about shelf life. A few of us are researching that and I will update as we learn more.

Another concern is the product being tainted. One member had one bottle that was not clear and appeared to have particulates in it. This is extremely concerning for obvious reasons. I believe that member is having it tested also.

A also stops responding it seems once one gets the product and starts asking questions about their concerns. I have been told by several previous customers that A before November never acted that way. There is a ton of speculation as to why that is, but I will not speculate. I am trying to find the real answers. As I get answers I will update here.

This is all very concerning. This is incredibly serious. I spent every penny I had saved up to get this from A and expected 2 100 ml sealed bottles of N. And I am not alone. We are talking about people counting on A to deliver as promised for people that have gone to him as their means for their final act in life. To find our peace, the way we want to.

I am reporting my experience and findings to EI, as are others.

I promise to update all findings until I CTB myself. Please just use caution for now, I hate that A is the only source that is recommended to us and these things are happening. So I don't want to tell people not to order because our options are limited, and the product might still be N. We should know soon. But there is a lot wrong right now. So use your own discretion. I just want everyone to have all the information available.

Also, if anyone wants to talk to me about any of this, or their own experience, you can respond here of course or you can PM me if you want. As crazy as it may sound to some, all I want is to help others get to any conclusions we can for others while I am still here.

Thankyou for sharing this information. I have a small request, could you please share a few sites of other CTB forums...