Getting a fatal disease on purpose

[Faustus]

So, I've attempted to CTB in the past but I was discovered and unfortunately saved. Now I really don't want to die by CTB because I love my mother, and don't want to make her suffer like that day...
If I die under "misterious" circumstances, she probably will think I killed myself, so I thought to get a fatal disease to die with an "acceptable" reason, even by CTB after a diagnosis.
Is that a possible thing to do? I mean, in realistic ways...

 

[FuneralCry]

It sounds difficult to get a fatal disease on purpose. I do not know how someone could do that. I have not heard of anyone trying to do such a thing.

 

[dirtnap]

It's an interesting concept. I guess it's possible... a fatal heart disease, kidney disease etc. Many abuse their bodies to the point of fatal organ failure so it's not inconceivable. Could potentially be a slow and painful process getting to the fatal stages of a disease.

 

[Angi]

Sadly, I am not aware of a disease that would kill you quickly and painlessly, even reliably dying is a problem with many. Plus, with anything contagious you risk taking the people around you with you. So you need a non-contagious option. I knew someone who gave himself cancer, but this is unreliable, slow and very painful, so maybe not your best option.

 

[Endtimes1]

So, I've attempted to CTB in the past but I was discovered and unfortunately saved. Now I really don't want to die by CTB because I love my mother, and don't want to make her suffer like that day...
If I die under "misterious" circumstances, she probably will think I killed myself, so I thought to get a fatal disease to die with an "acceptable" reason, even by CTB after a diagnosis.
Is that a possible thing to do? I mean, in realistic ways...

AIDS?
It's a horrible way to go, but relatively easy to get if you know where to look for it.

 

[befree]

Yes, I think it´s possible. Drug overdoses can cause kidney disease, liver disease, cardiac disease....etc. But it´s nothing that works in days or weeks. It may take years or at least months and you may suffer. I would not suggest it.

 

[ojinzo]

Don't do it. It does not always resort in a quick or painless death.

 

[Nothingtoadd]

So, I've attempted to CTB in the past but I was discovered and unfortunately saved. Now I really don't want to die by CTB because I love my mother, and don't want to make her suffer like that day...
If I die under "misterious" circumstances, she probably will think I killed myself, so I thought to get a fatal disease to die with an "acceptable" reason, even by CTB after a diagnosis.
Is that a possible thing to do? I mean, in realistic ways...

Many people are suddenly collapsing and die these days, something like that happens to me also I won't even call somebody to help

 

[Euthanza]

Been heavy smoker for about 30 years without a day stop, I thought I would have lung cancer by now but not yet, I got 7 years before 50yo, I don't want to live that old, I had more than enough of me.

https://nomograms.mskcc.org/Lung/Screening.aspx

 

[Shivali]

Seit ca. 30 Jahren starker Raucher ohne einen Tag Pause, ich dachte ich hätte jetzt Lungenkrebs aber noch nicht, ich bin 7 Jahre vor 50yo gekommen, so alt will ich nicht werden, ich hatte mehr als genug von mir.

https://nomograms.mskcc.org/Lung/Screening.aspx

Same here. I am a heavy smoker for 45 years now. I have Copd. But I could live for many more years ...

 

[Noctis]

It's not a disease, per se, but drug overdose. It's really easy to accidentally go overboard with something like heroin. It might seem suspicious to people who know you if you suddenly die of an overdose without any real history of drug use, but it doesn't scream suicide like a lot of other mysterious deaths do.

Now, finding it another thing entirely. I've never used anything harder than cocaine, and I've had a couple narrow escapes from the law trying to get it.

 

[Faustus]

It's an interesting concept. I guess it's possible... a fatal heart disease, kidney disease etc. Many abuse their bodies to the point of fatal organ failure so it's not inconceivable. Could potentially be a slow and painful process getting to the fatal stages of a disease.

Sadly, I am not aware of a disease that would kill you quickly and painlessly, even reliably dying is a problem with many. Plus, with anything contagious you risk taking the people around you with you. So you need a non-contagious option. I knew someone who gave himself cancer, but this is unreliable, slow and very painful, so maybe not your best option.

Don't do it. It does not always resort in a quick or painless death.

Yeah surely living with a lethal disease till the end is painful, but as soon as I could have a diagnosis, I could CTB before the last terrible part of the disease without causing so much despair, because I'd be dead anyway...

Been heavy smoker for about 30 years without a day stop, I thought I would have lung cancer by now but not yet, I got 7 years before 50yo, I don't want to live that old, I had more than enough of me.

https://nomograms.mskcc.org/Lung/Screening.aspx

Same here. I am a heavy smoker for 45 years now. I have Copd. But I could live for many more years ...

I started to smoke exactly for this reason, but it's just 5 years and I'm young (25), and above all I'm not lucky, so I don't think I'll get a lung cancer soon (if ever)...

Yes, I think it´s possible. Drug overdoses can cause kidney disease, liver disease, cardiac disease....etc. But it´s nothing that works in days or weeks. It may take years or at least months and you may suffer. I would not suggest it.

It's not a disease, per se, but drug overdose. It's really easy to accidentally go overboard with something like heroin. It might seem suspicious to people who know you if you suddenly die of an overdose without any real history of drug use, but it doesn't scream suicide like a lot of other mysterious deaths do.

Now, finding it another thing entirely. I've never used anything harder than cocaine, and I've had a couple narrow escapes from the law trying to get it.

I think it's too much painful, isn't it? At this point better 1-2 minutes of potential suffering by hanging... Anyway, I live on the butt of earth =D , so there's not drugs besides weed

 

[Well-Edited Chaos]

AIDS?
It's a horrible way to go, but relatively easy to get if you know where to look for it.

It may be a horrible way to go but it'll take a LONG time - according to a recent study, median survival time for untreated AIDS "decreased from 12.5 years at ages 15–24 to 7.2 years at ages 45–54."

 

[outrider567]

It may be a horrible way to go but it'll take a LONG time - according to a recent study, median survival time for untreated AIDS "decreased from 12.5 years at ages 15–24 to 7.2 years at ages 45–54."

That's surprising---Seems they died much quicker in the 1980's--Rock Hudson died just 16 months after diagnosis--John Holmes the porn actor lasted just one year--Gia the famous model died just a year or two after diagnosis---Gatien the infamous 'Patient Zero' male flight attendant who spread AIDS coast to coast died after three years

 

[Well-Edited Chaos]

That's surprising---Seems they died much quicker in the 1980's--Rock Hudson died just 16 months after diagnosis--John Holmes the porn actor lasted just one year--Gia the famous model died just a year or two after diagnosis---Gatien the infamous 'Patient Zero' male flight attendant who spread AIDS coast to coast died after three years

Oh yeah, in the early days, they died really quickly. Since then, there's been a ton of research and now, they don't.

 

[Medicmedic72]

This doesn't seem like a good idea. At. All.

 

[summers]

Maybe something like hemorrhagic fever (ebola). Or just find something that actually works.

 

[Worndown]

I have some experience with this and it really is not a practical or pleasant method. SN or a rope are much better options.

 

[Endtimes1]

Oh yeah, in the early days, they died really quickly. Since then, there's been a ton of research and now, they don't.

If you don't eat your medication it should be similar to the mentioned famous people. But it's a very painful way to go.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

So, I've attempted to CTB in the past but I was discovered and unfortunately saved. Now I really don't want to die by CTB because I love my mother, and don't want to make her suffer like that day...
If I die under "misterious" circumstances, she probably will think I killed myself, so I thought to get a fatal disease to die with an "acceptable" reason, even by CTB after a diagnosis.
Is that a possible thing to do? I mean, in realistic ways...

No!!!! This is a terrible idea!!!!
I don't know what fatal disease you are thinking about but I'm guessing it's a sexually transmitted one.
I don't know how else to get one.
I'm not sure of the time frame you are thinking about. From getting a disease to CTB.
Some people live many years after infection. I don't think it would be accepted by your mother if you do it right away.
Even Covid & Monkeypox are survivable.
There was a member that suggested this years ago and I said the same thing.
I really don't think it would be any easier on your mother if you were ill or not.

Those are just my thoughts. I'm in the same situation and I understand what you are going through.

It's an interesting concept. I guess it's possible... a fatal heart disease, kidney disease etc. Many abuse their bodies to the point of fatal organ failure so it's not inconceivable. Could potentially be a slow and painful process getting to the fatal stages of a disease.

I had not thought of that but it still sounds awful. So many things could go wrong.

 

[veryhappyhuman]

I've thought along these lines. If you get a fatal disease and refuse medical attention it'd still be considered a suicide anyway, so it seems pointless. Plus it's also possible that the disease weakens you so much (before it kills) that you get forced intervention against your wishes and can't do anything about it.

This is why I wish I'd had Type1 Diabetes or nut allergies etc. This way you don't need to do anything out of the ordinary to die, it's like walking around with a ctb button in your hand permanently. Although I suppose the lifelong suffering is a huge price to pay for that.

 

[Worndown]

As someone that had a fatal disease, it is no way to die. You will be offered treatment and you will take it because you will feel terrible. I was probably a week from dying but it was agony. Everyone wants an easy or painless method. That does not exist and this is definitely not it!

 

[Faustus]

Maybe a stupid question, but if I put my head in the microwave, is there a chance that I would get brain cancer? Or maybe aneurysm, something like this...

 

[Well-Edited Chaos]

Maybe a stupid question, but if I put my head in the microwave, is there a chance that I would get brain cancer? Or maybe aneurysm, something like this...

The microwave won't run with the door open.

 

[Faustus]

The microwave won't run with the door open.

Yeah but it's easy to make it "think" the door is closed, it's enough to press the switch that usually gets pressed by the latches on the door...

 

[Romeo1984]

Hello.
I Will report my opinion based on my knowledge.

Sexual illness: bad idea. You'll have a long way to go until you die. Denying treatment may shorten the journey, but it will significantly increase your suffering.

Ebola: Bad idea. Highly fatal. It is different from covid, because the virus is in the transmissible period when the patient is isolated with all the symptoms. So it is necessary that you live in an endemic region and have the "lucky" to have an outbreak. Otherwise, you don't have access to the virus or who is infected. And there is also a lot of suffering (bleeding for days...)

Cancer: bad idea. Cancer usually gives people opportunities to say goodbye, however there is a lot of suffering, for those who die and for the people who love us. It's a terrible disease. There is a lot of suffering and you have chances of healing. The duration of suffering depends on several factors (type of cancer, location in the body, immune system, access to treatment and medicines). In the end, you may or may not be cured. When not, in the end there will be so much pain that no medicine can help you. The body slowly collapses, even rejecting food. There is so much suffering here that even those who love you may wish you to die soon. If you are going to die of cancer, the "ideal" is to have a highly aggressive cancer that kills in a few days (leukemia, pancreas, brain are usually more likely to kill in a few days, but it's not the majority and there are no guarantees.)

There are many highly fatal diseases that kill quickly, in days or even hours, however there is a lot of suffering involved and access is not simple, such as rabies disease, meningitis or sepsis.
As I said in cancer, the time to death will depend on several factors, such as access to treatment, the immune system, type of disease, location in the body, etc.
Denying treatment is a right in my country (Brazil) as long as you are conscious and have mental health. However, if you have life insurance and deny access to treatment, it could be considered suicide and any benefits will be denied. Think about it before rejecting treatment

I believe that there are other, less painful and obscure ways to seek this peace. But unfortunately it is denied to us and many end up choosing alternatives that cause more suffering.

 

[Well-Edited Chaos]

Yeah but it's easy to make it "think" the door is closed, it's enough to press the switch that usually gets pressed by the latches on the door...

True enough. I tend to be quite literal.

My first thought when I read the post was, "Well, the only way to get the door shut with your head in the microwave is to cut your head off - in which case you wouldn't need the microwave!"

 

[Worndown]

Yeah but it's easy to make it "think" the door is closed, it's enough to press the switch that usually gets pressed by the latches on the door...

It would start to cook parts of your head...that is what it does. I will guess skin and eyes go first. They have a lot of water in them and are not protected by the skull. Being blind and suicidal does not sound fun.

 

[At_The_End]

Yes you would die but not before your head boiled away. It would never work as you would not be able to stand that pain and, if you did for a few seconds, you would be permantly damanged and live a much shittier life. Microwaves boil water by magnetic waves- there is no radiations at all.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I've thought along these lines. If you get a fatal disease and refuse medical attention it'd still be considered a suicide anyway, so it seems pointless.

This isn't true at all. Plenty of people diagnosed with cancer decline treatment, and when they die, their cause of death is listed as the disease, not suicide.