full suspension is painful unlike partial

[otaku01]

Partial hang is totally painless way to go. You place a thin rope around your neck which only block your blood vessel to ur brain. You just need to find right place. Then you lose conciousness within 10 seconds with no pain at all. I did partial before and it was no pain. You realize your vision fading and then nothing. You r gone. That's it. The reason i am still alive is the rope came off. I wish ı used something more sturdy. Anyways.

But full suspension is a different story. Since you need a thick rope in full suspension, it interfere with ur trachea and you will die in agony. I think there is no way to overcome this. So you need to pay a price to achieve peace. Because full suspension is a guaranteed way to catch the bus. No pain no gain.

 

[29Forever]

Survival instinct is the problem with partial and many people also find it impossible to pass out from partial even with sufficient pressure I can only seem to block my jugulars and my head feels like it will explode. 1 min later I'm still conscious, it's hard to get right

 

[otaku01]

Survival instinct is the problem with partial and many people also find it impossible to pass out from partial even with sufficient pressure I can only seem to block my jugulars and my head feels like it will explode. 1 min later I'm still conscious, it's hard to get right

ıf you find the right place with a thin rope which is about 4 mm, you shouldn't be in pain. That's a matter of practice. And you drink some alcohol, there is no SI since you have no pain doing this.

 

[bipolar22]

I believe with full done right the discomfort will be very short lived. Effectively shutting down all blood flow to the brain 3 seconds and there won't be any feelings. At least what I heart heard from failed full suspension attempts. agony was never described. It's kinda like an 'almost' insta off button. But then again there are mishaps where people slowly choke to death when the noose ain't sitting right.
I preferred partial aswell if it actually was reliable which it sadly often isn't.

 

[29Forever]

ıf you find the right place with a thin rope which is about 4 mm, you shouldn't be in pain. That's a matter of practice. And you drink some alcohol, there is no SI since you have no pain doing this.

I have a 4mm, 6mm tried both, sank 8-9 moretti beers and took some diazepam's and survival instinct was still there for me :( I didn't have pain just felt like I could feel my pulse thumping in my neck even after putting nearly all my weight on it I still couldn't pass out. I think full suspension with a thicker rope will be my next move

 

[bipolar22]

ıf you find the right place with a thin rope which is about 4 mm, you shouldn't be in pain. That's a matter of practice. And you drink some alcohol, there is no SI since you have no pain doing this.

4mm is very thin digs deep into the skin. Even with 12 mm I used padding otherwise it would hurt too much. SI for me is strong even while utterly wasted

 

[otaku01]

I believe with full done right the discomfort will be very short lived. Effectively shutting down all blood flow to the brain 3 seconds and there won't be any feelings. At least what I heart heard from failed full suspension attempts. agony was never described. It's kinda like an 'almost' insta off button. But then again there are mishaps where people slowly choke to death when the noose ain't sitting right.
I preferred partial aswell if it actually was reliable which it sadly often isn't.

I think it is limited to adjust things in full suspension. You dont need to bother urself for finding to right position or so because it is kinda coarse thing. You will die with ur entire weight and a thick rope. It will cause you to die in agony since it interferes with your trachea unlike partial. I would go for partial hang but i cant risk it.

4mm is very thin digs deep into the skin. Even with 12 mm I used padding otherwise it would hurt too much. SI for me is strong even while utterly wasted

A 4mm rope for climbing is enough. It can carry things up to 200 kg. The thicker is the rope, the more painful is the death.

 

[bipolar22]

I think it is limited to adjust things in full suspension. You dont need to bother urself for finding to right position or so because it is kinda coarse thing. You will die with ur entire weight and a thick rope. It will cause you to die in agony since it interferes with your trachea unlike partial. I would go for partial hang but i cant risk it.

A 4mm rope for climbing is enough. It can carry things up to 200 kg. The thicker is the rope, the more painful is the death.

That is seems incorrect to me. Spreading poorly researched information might scare people off their methods causing further suffering. If this is your opinion it's fine. But no need to make it seem like it's a proven research without providing sources which confirm your statements.

 

[dead dav]

Full suspension will ensure death if done right a bit of pain is worthwhile if I get peace afterwards

 

[otaku01]

That is seems incorrect to me. Spreading poorly researched information might scare people off their methods causing further suffering. If this is your opinion it's fine. But no need to make it seem like it's a proven research without providing sources which confirm your statements.

It is an experience.

 

[SchrodingerIsDed]

Similar to the night-night method, but effective. I imagine this really depends on how deep your carotid arteries are or their specific placement in the neck on whether or not a rope will work. Same thing as being choked out and losing consciousness. Didn't Robin Williams use a full ass belt though? That's not very thin. You just need some way to hit the carotid arteries without hitting the trachea.

 

[otaku01]

Similar to the night-night method, but effective. I imagine this really depends on how deep your carotid arteries are or their specific placement in the neck on whether or not a rope will work. Same thing as being choked out and losing consciousness. Didn't Robin Williams use a full ass belt though? That's not very thin. You just need some way to hit the carotid arteries without hitting the trachea.

In my opinion, you cant hit the carotid arteries without hitting the trachea in full suspension. Robin williams probably has died in agony, i think. A thick rope is not useful for this even you do partial. That's what my experiences say.

 

[bipolar22]

In my opinion, you cant hit the carotid arteries without hitting the trachea in full suspension. Robin williams probably has died in agony, i think. A thick rope is not useful for this even you do partial. That's what my experiences say.

cant hit the arteries without hitting the windpipe in any method because they are BEHIND the windpipe. I attempted partial many times and everytime I took deep breaths before and then hold my breath because there's no way you can breath while applying enough pressure. when I woke up from partial with my full body weight suppressing my neck I could not take a breath. but also it didn't hurt much and if it did I was way to drowsy to notice.
if people think they can pass out comfortable with just enought pressure to still be able to breath they are dead wrong. this is where all this my head feels like exploding but cant pass out thing comes from.

 

[Forveleth]

But full suspension is a different story. Since you need a thick rope in full suspension, it interfere with ur trachea and you will die in agony. I think there is no way to overcome this. So you need to pay a price to achieve peace. Because full suspension is a guaranteed way to catch the bus. No pain no gain.

But where are you getting this information? This sounds like conjecture to me.

 

[otaku01]

cant hit the arteries without hitting the windpipe in any method because they are BEHIND the windpipe. I attempted partial many times and everytime I took deep breaths before and then hold my breath because there's no way you can breath while applying enough pressure. when I woke up from partial with my full body weight suppressing my neck I could not take a breath. but also it didn't hurt much and if it did I was way to drowsy to notice.
if people think they can pass out comfortable with just enought pressure to still be able to breath they are dead wrong. this is where all this my head feels like exploding but cant pass out thing comes from.

You can pass out even if u are able to breath. You just constrict ur blood vessels. Doesn't it lead to death? If u feel ur head exploding you are doing it wrong

But where are you getting this information? This sounds like conjecture to me.

It is from my experience

 

[bipolar22]

You can pass out even if u are able to breath. You just constrict ur blood vessels. Doesn't it lead to death? If u feel ur head exploding you are doing it wrong

It is from my experience

Doesn't work for me. Then again everyones anatomy is slightly different. For me to pass out I need almost my full body weight. Otherwise I get the blood buildup feeling. The arteries are below the jugular.
Anyway the point is there wasn't any pain involved. Discomfort at best. The 10mm rope without padding was agony. With padding it was better. Switched to 12 mm and padding i feel no discomfort when apply full body weight during practice.
There's a video about auto aphyxiation where they use a heavily padded thick collar. The girl reported she had to really put all her weight down so she couldn't breath in order to pass out and never spoke of any pain involved.
Sadly that video seems to be deleted by now

 

[6Judas6]

Does anyone know if a 10mm rope is enough to perform complete suspension on a 100kg body?

 

[JesiBel]

Does anyone know if a 10mm rope is enough to perform complete suspension on a 100kg body?

It would be best to buy a rope whose load-bearing capacity you know, since not all materials have the same strength.

Perhaps a 12 or 14 mm one is more comfortable and safe.

 

[6Judas6]

It would be best to buy a rope whose load-bearing capacity you know, since not all materials have the same strength.

Perhaps a 12 or 14 mm one is more comfortable and safe.

Thanks

I have this:

Draper 11675 Corda in polipropilene, 15 m x 10 mm : Amazon.it: Fai da te

Draper 11675 Corda in polipropilene, 15 m x 10 mm : Amazon.it: Fai da te

www.amazon.it

The rope is made of polypropylene and has a line thickness of 200 kg. In theory it should work but the fact that it is 10 mm thick leaves me doubtful.

 

[JesiBel]

Thanks

I have this:

Draper 11675 Corda in polipropilene, 15 m x 10 mm : Amazon.it: Fai da te

Draper 11675 Corda in polipropilene, 15 m x 10 mm : Amazon.it: Fai da te

www.amazon.it

The rope is made of polypropylene and has a line thickness of 200 kg. In theory it should work but the fact that it is 10 mm thick leaves me doubtful.

I'm leaving a photo for reference of the thickness. The purple rope is the one I bought for myself (12 mm, braided, polypropylene).

 

[Worndown]

Partial hang is totally painless way to go. You place a thin rope around your neck which only block your blood vessel to ur brain. You just need to find right place. Then you lose conciousness within 10 seconds with no pain at all. I did partial before and it was no pain. You realize your vision fading and then nothing. You r gone. That's it. The reason i am still alive is the rope came off. I wish ı used something more sturdy. Anyways.

But full suspension is a different story. Since you need a thick rope in full suspension, it interfere with ur trachea and you will die in agony. I think there is no way to overcome this. So you need to pay a price to achieve peace. Because full suspension is a guaranteed way to catch the bus. No pain no gain.

Wow. I wish you the best as you gently pass away doing partial, on your 5th attempt.
If you do the research, you find there are a few errors in your post.
That does not help anyone here. Maybe we need to start a fiction megathread.

 

[otaku01]

Wow. I wish you the best as you gently pass away doing partial, on your 5th attempt.
If you do the research, you find there are a few errors in your post.
That does not help anyone here. Maybe we need to start a fiction megathread.

What errors do my post have? Can u elaborate?

 

[Worndown]

You were lucky the first time. This site is filled with posts of failure. That is not easy.
You seemed to have escaped SI. That is the biggest demon faced.
Full works the same but gravity handles the hard part. Not sure where the pain part comes in. I have done some pretty intense practice and all I felt was pressure, no pain.

 

[xXSufferingXx]

I have done some pretty intense practice and all I felt was pressure, no pain.

with which one, full or partial?

 

[Worndown]

Full.

 

[cait_sith]

You were lucky the first time. This site is filled with posts of failure. That is not easy.
You seemed to have escaped SI. That is the biggest demon faced.
Full works the same but gravity handles the hard part. Not sure where the pain part comes in. I have done some pretty intense practice and all I felt was pressure, no pain.

How did you practise full? Most fs survivors say there is pain.

 

[Johnzaga23]

wait how thick should the rope be in full? 10mm? 12mm? thicker?

 

[TotalEclipse]

People on this site prefer full because it's 100% effective as long as the rope and suspension point doesn't fail, which has also led them to believe that full is less painful/not painful. *I* think it's harmful to mislead people into thinking that they'll experience little pain when attempting a method you can't back out of.

 

[Worndown]

12mm is good. Practice is done carefully. You increase the weight supported by the rope until you decide to stop. Checking rope placement and the signs it is going to work.