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knowman

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The problem is also how to take it? Drink all the powder mix in a glass of water? It is not difficult to find a serious seller for this product, go to WHM type the name of the product and you will see that several sellers are legitimate
I'm sorry for being so inexperienced, but what do you mean by WHM type? I agree with Liverpoolfan. I'm too far gone to do much with deep dives and risks.
 
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I read about it on the redit opioid forum was very intrested in the same drug for ctbing
 
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wannago

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Otherwise you really think that this powder is fatal by drinking it in a glass of water? By taking a good antiemetic
OP said that snorting would probably suffice.
I'd read up on bioavailability of it in the stomach vs intranasal. IV is obviously preferable, but I understand not knowing where to begin with that.
Since you typically get a lot of product for the price, I'd imagine that having a few glasses would be the typical idea. I'm not sure how quickly it would take effect however.
I'd be inclined to think that intranasal & simultaneous other routes would provide the desired exit.
 
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Ugh, I am such a n00b when it comes to this sort of stuff. Anyone know which online opioid communities would be willing to source me to a reputable vendor? It's such a damn hassle.

Also, I absolutely suck at navigating the DarkNet because of PGP encryptions, etc. I'm guessing this question is highly stupid but I'm going to ask it anyway: are there no "research labs" I could purchase it from instead? The one I did find was stated to adulterate its' contents earlier on in the thread.

It would be so much easier if I could simply befriend a group of druggies on the streets and have them show me the ropes but I don't have the social charisma or the energy to get out of bed since I'm partially disabled.
 
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OP said that snorting would probably suffice.
I'd read up on bioavailability of it in the stomach vs intranasal. IV is obviously preferable, but I understand not knowing where to begin with that.
Since you typically get a lot of product for the price, I'd imagine that having a few glasses would be the typical idea. I'm not sure how quickly it would take effect however.
I'd be inclined to think that intranasal & simultaneous other routes would provide the desired exit.
Ok thank you for your answer, I think for example two glasses with 2.5gr of product in each glass of water does the job. After you have to see for the duration of action, do you think it's peaceful?
 
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Ugh, I am such a n00b when it comes to this sort of stuff. Anyone know which online opioid communities would be willing to source me to a reputable vendor? It's such a damn hassle.

Also, I absolutely suck at navigating the DarkNet because of PGP encryptions, etc. I'm guessing this question is highly stupid but I'm going to ask it anyway: are there no "research labs" I could purchase it from instead? The one I did find was stated to adulterate its' contents earlier on in the thread.

It would be so much easier if I could simply befriend a group of druggies on the streets and have them show me the ropes but I don't have the social charisma or the energy to get out of bed since I'm partially disabled.
Good luck finding a community sourcing on the clearnet - I think it would be worth just learning how to access the DNMs. You don't really necessarily need PGP anyways, it's more for "future" safety. I guess it does matter if you're not planning on using it instantaneously.
Some people can find the product on foreign sites, uncertain about legitimacy of them though.
I know how you feel - though in my area we don't really have druggies IVing - it's more of a smoking/snorting kinda place. There are guides online about IV but it's probably more of a learn from experience thing.
Ok thank you for your answer, I think for example two glasses with 2.5gr of product in each glass of water does the job. After you have to see for the duration of action, do you think it's peaceful?
I definitely think it'd be peaceful. I'm just unsure as to quantity required via different routes. Look up routes of administration, it's rare for them to mention oral administration - and when they do, they mention that "it's entirely metabolised during first-pass metabolism into Morphine - before crossing the blood-brain barrier; so the effects are the same as orally administered morphine." Source
(I'm assuming F & Eto work similarly to H).

I'm not sure what this changes about the method if anything - but I can assure you that if it has the effects of orally administered morphine it would feel good.

I'm just wondering whether orally is a good idea - I'm not sure if it causes vomiting. The strength would suggest that it would still work. Snorting would be an addition for me just in case. Uh, also, I'm not sure if you'd be able to reach the other cup if you did vomit. Even on multiple pills of strong morphine it can just get rid of the will to move - and I've not tried H let alone Eto.

It would also probably remove the whole natural double take reaction, you'd be much calmer and, if you wanted to, you could probably make it all to be a pleasant experience, as you should.
 
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Good luck finding a community sourcing on the clearnet - I think it would be worth just learning how to access the DNMs. You don't really necessarily need PGP anyways, it's more for "future" safety. I guess it does matter if you're not planning on using it instantaneously.
Some people can find the product on foreign sites, uncertain about legitimacy of them though.
I know how you feel - though in my area we don't really have druggies IVing - it's more of a smoking/snorting kinda place. There are guides online about IV but it's probably more of a learn from experience thing.

I definitely think it'd be peaceful. I'm just unsure as to quantity required via different routes. Look up routes of administration, it's rare for them to mention oral administration - and when they do, they mention that "it's entirely metabolised during first-pass metabolism into Morphine - before crossing the blood-brain barrier; so the effects are the same as orally administered morphine." Source
(I'm assuming F & Eto work similarly to H).

I'm not sure what this changes about the method if anything - but I can assure you that if it has the effects of orally administered morphine it would feel good.

I'm just wondering whether orally is a good idea - I'm not sure if it causes vomiting. The strength would suggest that it would still work. Snorting would be an addition for me just in case. Uh, also, I'm not sure if you'd be able to reach the other cup if you did vomit. Even on multiple pills of strong morphine it can just get rid of the will to move - and I've not tried H let alone Eto.

It would also probably remove the whole natural double take reaction, you'd be much calmer and, if you wanted to, you could probably make it all to be a pleasant experience, as you should.
It all sounds too uncertain, too many ifs etc. I prefer to stay on SN or N if I'm lucky. I thank you anyway for all information. Peace
 
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virginiawoolf

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It is really expensive compared to SN... for research content SN is only around 31 euros and even less if you have a licence for 100 g. For this one, it is 177 euros without licence!!
However, I might prefer the effect of this one than the effect of SN only because I did take buprenorphine in the past and know what to expect...
Thanks for sharing
what country are you in? i didn't know SN was legal in europe
 
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Jan 18, 2020
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5g is the Chineses vendor I assume ?

Important to note:
1) Orally the bioavailibility is much, much lower and taken this way causes huge nausea.
2) You need to be sure it has only opioid µ receptor properties and no other properties like NARI or SSRI side effects. Methonitazene i.e. has dangerous side effects, wiki mentions, but doesn't mention what exactly. There's little nfo about these etazene analogues.

You might find more nfo on the researchchemicals subreddit.

I'm really scared to take a huge dose orally and dunno how to inject :(

Also has to be solveable in water. I'm thinking of doing it rectally but fear can't dissolve enough in water to take one shot :(
 
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5g is the Chineses vendor I assume ?

Important to note:
1) Orally the bioavailibility is much, much lower and taken this way causes huge nausea.
2) You need to be sure it has only opioid µ receptor properties and no other properties like NARI or SSRI side effects. Methonitazene i.e. has dangerous side effects, wiki mentions, but doesn't mention what exactly. There's little nfo about these etazene analogues.

You might find more nfo on the researchchemicals subreddit.

I'm really scared to take a huge dose orally and dunno how to inject :(

Also has to be solveable in water. I'm thinking of doing it rectally but fear can't dissolve enough in water to take one shot :(
Well, if it's possible to IV, surely it would be soluble in water?
Don't worry, I'm in the same situation. Just stumbled across the money for my Eto, and have access. Might just look up a lot of detailed IV advice...
 
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Well, if it's possible to IV, surely it would be soluble in water?
Don't worry, I'm in the same situation. Just stumbled across the money for my Eto, and have access. Might just look up a lot of detailed IV advice...
What eto analogue are you gonna use ? Good point on the IV advice.
 
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knowman

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Interesting info thank you. Problem is when you're depressed, the whole faff of dark nets and bitcoins and trying to navigate the legit sellers from the scammers is too much to deal with.
I definitely understand. So what are your options? If you are still available, I'd very much like to know your status. Thank you.
 

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