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Sparx
Specialist
- Jan 4, 2023
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I'm considering changing method (again) and have been looking at the 'Amitriptyline cocktail'. I would have access to all the drugs required. I know that OD'ing on pills has something like a 97% failure rate but those are mostly impulsive, badly thought out attempts.
The problem with the cocktail is the sheer quantity of ami that PPeH is now advising for this method, 8-10g (used to be 5g). That's 400 x 25mg pills which seems a huge amount. PPeH advises to crush the ami and dissolve in water. They also recommend 600mg oxazepam for a peaceful death (again this seems like a huge amount) and a stat dose of AE (30mg metoclopramide) beforehand. The whole lot would be chased down with a small amount of strong alcohol (vodka, gin).
Amitriptyline is said to be very bitter in solution and I'm sure the oxazepam doesn't taste great either. The whole cocktail just seems like a recipe for vomiting even with the AE. Yet PPeH says that if vomiting occurs the attempt should be abandoned by trying to bring up the rest. I'd be terrified of not being able to do this and end up having a large quantity of ami in my system - not enough to ctb but enough to cause very unpleasant symptoms, e.g. thrashing, psychosis etc.
If anyone has failed an attempt with this or a similarly large amount of pills may I ask how did you avoid the vomiting? It seems unlikely to keep that much medication down long enough until the benzos kick in. Dammit why does this have to be so difficult.
The problem with the cocktail is the sheer quantity of ami that PPeH is now advising for this method, 8-10g (used to be 5g). That's 400 x 25mg pills which seems a huge amount. PPeH advises to crush the ami and dissolve in water. They also recommend 600mg oxazepam for a peaceful death (again this seems like a huge amount) and a stat dose of AE (30mg metoclopramide) beforehand. The whole lot would be chased down with a small amount of strong alcohol (vodka, gin).
Amitriptyline is said to be very bitter in solution and I'm sure the oxazepam doesn't taste great either. The whole cocktail just seems like a recipe for vomiting even with the AE. Yet PPeH says that if vomiting occurs the attempt should be abandoned by trying to bring up the rest. I'd be terrified of not being able to do this and end up having a large quantity of ami in my system - not enough to ctb but enough to cause very unpleasant symptoms, e.g. thrashing, psychosis etc.
If anyone has failed an attempt with this or a similarly large amount of pills may I ask how did you avoid the vomiting? It seems unlikely to keep that much medication down long enough until the benzos kick in. Dammit why does this have to be so difficult.