Fentanyl overdose

[befree]

Opioids cause respiratory depression. Wouldnt describe it as "painless"

For this reason it´s recommanded to use also a long acting Benzo, such as Diazepam. Or you use the Oxycodon/Fentanyl combi, consisting of Oxy/Fent/Diazepam.

 

[stupidmansuit]

For me it was instant, one second i'm sitting in my chair after doing a line, the very next it's lights out, no panic or in between, but i was also on benzos - I wasn't actively trying to ctb, this is just normal rec use

 

[Someone123]

For me it was instant, one second i'm sitting in my chair after doing a line, the very next it's lights out, no panic or in between, but i was also on benzos - I wasn't actively trying to ctb, this is just normal rec use

Something tells it didn't work to ctb, though.

 

[Smart No More]

The FENTANYL rating system is a good one, unfortunately fentanyl is just as hard to find as nembutal.

I think my argument was that morphine is not heroin. Heroin is diamorphine. I understwnd however that the body turns it into morphine but the way it goes in is different and therefore the comparison between morphine and Fent doesn't quite work for me. As I said however, there is no question, Fent is insanely strong by comparrison to H/diamorphine.

Something tells it didn't work to ctb, though.

Well he just nodded out. But obviously that indicated if they were attempting to ctb they'd do the same thing (using a larger dose) but not wake up.
Benzos create respiratory depression too fwiw. The respiratory depression from opiodsand opiates isn't uncomfortable. Once you're out it's even less so.

The thing with opiates is you can be snapped out of it with a shot carried by paramedics and many addicts these days. Recovery services provide it to them to have on hand.

 

[Advisor321]

Just to be clear to everyone - when talking about ODing on F, we should be talking about pure powder, injected IV. Pills and patches have plenty of failures on these forums. Powder F is not a recreational drug, it is a cutting agent for H, which allows much less H to be used for the same effect. This is why it is so difficult to get - it's used in the manufacture of drugs, and not sold as an end product.

The only end users of pure powder f are people who want to kill themselves. Similar to something like Euthasol, when most customers are only buying one time, it's hard to develop a market, and therefore very tough/expensive to find.

But where to find powder F? It is not used in medicine. Practically IV injections are common

 

[summers]

But where to find powder F? It is not used in medicine. Practically IV injections are common

Find someone who sells bulk heroine and cuts it using fentanyl. This is usually done before they are bagged for retail sale.

 

[wait.what]

At least at one time, there were messageboards kind of like this one, where people traded information on how to get recreational drugs to do . . . whatever they wanted them to do. I want to say one of them was called something like "Psychonauts," or that was a thing the users called themselves, or . . . something. When I did a Google search all I found was a video game series, so maybe I hallucinated all of that. :p But then, I hear we're not indexed by Google either, which is of course, just fine.

I guess nowadays places like that are on the dark web, which I don't even know how to use, lol. And $20,000 for a couple of vials of N?? Sweet jebus . . . assuming that's USD, that's maybe 18 months' worth of income for me. I guess that tells you the risk D must be running, and how many desperate folks REALLY want to get their hands on some N.

 

[anxiousguineapig]

Opioids cause respiratory depression. Wouldnt describe it as "painless"

Opioids don't just make you stop breathing, they make you stop feeling like you NEED to breathe.

I was in the hospital recently and was given too many opioids (though not enough for a full overdose). It basically felt like I was forgetting to breathe, my oxygen would be dropping and CO2 would be going up and I didn't notice or feel any urge to breathe. Just dizziness and feeling faint.

The only reason I remember it and stayed conscious is that my parents were with me, and when my oxygen got too low they would tell me to breathe, I'd take a few deeper breaths and my oxygen would go up again. If they didn't, I'm sure I would have passed out. It was completely pleasant and I was in no pain or discomfort.

 

[ImsooDone1N]

I'm surprised this is a even a question, let alone a thread; but then again the variation on this website is almost comical. (Ie that thread about "what's the worst thing u have done"? Answers ranged from not putting a grocery item back in the right place at the store to killing someone & having to Find a way to dispose of the body.

Anyway Fentanyl, Fentanyl, Fentanyl… if 1 is a good method & 10 is almost perfect, SN is a solid 1, Fentanyl is a solid 10. So I think I would go with fentanyl. I'm not even trying to ctb tonight & I wish I had fentanyl (I'd dilute it w/ mannitol & use it to get High rn).. I love that noddy/'silent night' kinda high - so peaceful & relaxing. SN would potentially kill me. But it would be painful not pleasant, plus I just really love fentanyl & opiates. So it's the perfect method for me and makes this thread seem silly.

However it's not silly because pure fentanyl is extraordinary difficult to get. It's possible to make it yourself; assuming you have at least a good 1st year knowledge of chemistry and organic synthesis. It would require a strong AE, especially for opiate naïve users. I personally would not require any anti emetic, and very much wish I had a pile of fentanyl rn.

 

[Smart No More]

At least at one time, there were messageboards kind of like this one, where people traded information on how to get recreational drugs to do . . . whatever they wanted them to do. I want to say one of them was called something like "Psychonauts," or that was a thing the users called themselves, or . . . something. When I did a Google search all I found was a video game series, so maybe I hallucinated all of that. :p But then, I hear we're not indexed by Google either, which is of course, just fine.

I guess nowadays places like that are on the dark web, which I don't even know how to use, lol. And $20,000 for a couple of vials of N?? Sweet jebus . . . assuming that's USD, that's maybe 18 months' worth of income for me. I guess that tells you the risk D must be running, and how many desperate folks REALLY want to get their hands on some N.

Psychonauts was a thing. You're right. I think it still is tbh. It's a forum. It may have morphed into something else or been renamed now. There's a couple of similar forums too.

Not sure where you got the 20k figure from for N from D. It's not correct though.

Find someone who sells bulk heroine and cuts it using fentanyl. This is usually done before they are bagged for retail sale.

Nobody that does this is likely to admit to it. Certainly not to some random they aren't already friends with. You don't really just find a person like this. It's not usually just a single person either. Attempting to gain access this way is not advisable to the average person on this forum.

 

[wait.what]

Not sure where you got the 20k figure from for N from D. It's not correct though.

It's from a screencap of a page in the PPeH. Somebody posted it on the last page.

If that's not D's price, then I guess that figure had to come from Philip Nitschke? Shit, for that I can fly myself and some friends to Switzerland and get offed by Pegasos. I think they have an intravenous option, so you don't even have to taste whatever's going inside you.

 

[Smart No More]

It's from a screencap of a page in the PPeH. Somebody posted it on the last page.
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If that's not D's price, then I guess that figure had to come from Philip Nitschke? Shit, for that I can fly myself and some friends to Switzerland and get offed by Pegasos. I think they have an intravenous option, so you don't even have to taste whatever's going inside you.

It's an old version of the PPH and it's referring to the cost of using somewhere like Pegasos. D's N, when they have stock is a fraction of that price. It is still relatively pricey but more attainable that 5 figures. : )

 

[lonely30]

What is said about fentanyl?
Is it a peaceful death?
What effects does fentanyl overdose cause?
If you would have SN and Fentanyl. Which method would you use and why

I live in Europe and didn't know anything about it until I saw a documentary on the opioid crisis in the US. It seems so easy to get there and death is guaranteed with even a small dose if you have no tolerance. And you would go out on a high. If I lived in the US I would definitely choose that method. I don't know how easily available it is in Europe but I've never heard of someone taking it here in my whole life.

 

[Smart No More]

I live in Europe and didn't know anything about it until I saw a documentary on the opioid crisis in the US. It seems so easy to get there and death is guaranteed with even a small dose if you have no tolerance. And you would go out on a high. If I lived in the US I would definitely choose that method. I don't know how easily available it is in Europe but I've never heard of someone taking it here in my whole life.

For the sake of clarity I'll point out that overdose on opiates/opioids isn't really going out on a high. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad way to go but you don't go out riding a unicorn farting rainbows. Not all opioids are created equal either so the effects can vary. Then theres the personal differences. I was an addict many years ago and never really had trouble with vomiting or the likes when using but a lot of people did. Particularly when they first used. Many desceibed their first time using to be quite horrible. Whilst that passes, for some it puts them off ever using again. So if you're not opiod experienced I would avoid assuming you'll have a wonderful time dying.

 

[Judy Garland]

If I had both I would take them both together. Using the Fentanyl for pain and anxiety. I wouldn't overdose the Fentanyl though, I would take that as needed.

 

[lonely30]

For the sake of clarity I'll point out that overdose on opiates/opioids isn't really going out on a high. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad way to go but you don't go out riding a unicorn farting rainbows. Not all opioids are created equal either so the effects can vary. Then theres the personal differences. I was an addict many years ago and never really had trouble with vomiting or the likes when using but a lot of people did. Particularly when they first used. Many desceibed their first time using to be quite horrible. Whilst that passes, for some it puts them off ever using again. So if you're not opiod experienced I would avoid assuming you'll have a wonderful time dying.

This is good to know. Thank you.

 

[Smart No More]

This is good to know. Thank you.

Don't get me wrong. It's not a bad method. I just mean to say it isn't likely to be a fun ride akin to recreational use.

A big issue with opioids is the ability to be bought round with a widely carried antidote. This leaves a significant margine of risk of ending up with brain damage depending on when you're found.

Still, I'd personally take it over SN. Both have antidotes but having had experience with opiates I suppose it's easier to lean towards what I know. I'd probably get high first and then follow up with the lethal dose to tip mw right over. Maybe add a few extras. I suppose, if already planning to use SN you could get high, take SN and inject a lethal dose. Purely thinking out loud though. Might not be a great idea for reasons I'm overlooking. Please don't use my musings as a suggestion. One things foe certain though, even with such strong opioids as Fent, it would be much quicker and more lethal to do it by IV and that comes with some barriers to entry for people without experience on that front. I certainly wouldn't want to OD via snorting or smoking.

 

[lonely30]

Don't get me wrong. It's not a bad method. I just mean to say it isn't likely to be a fun ride akin to recreational use.

A big issue with opioid is the ability to be bought round with a widely carried antidote. This leaves a significant margine of risk of ending up with brain damage depending on when you're found.

Still, I'd personally take it over SN. Both have antidotes but having had experience with opiates I suppose it's easier to lean towards what I know. I'd probably get high first and then follow up with the lethal dose to tip mw right over. Maybe add a few extras. I suppose, if already planning to use SN you could get high, take SN and inject a lethal dose. Purely thinking out loud though. Might not be a great idea for reasons I'm overlooking. Please don't use my musings as a suggestion. One things foe certain though, even with such strong opioids as Fent, it would be much quicker and more lethal to do it by IV and that comes with some barriers to entry for people without experience on that front. I certainly wouldn't want to OD via snorting or smoking.

I understand. I think I will avoid it anyway because I am too scared that with illegal substances I won't know what I'm actually taking and I will end up coming back. The documentary I watched on fentanyl really stressed its lethality so it seemed so easy, but of course if there was such an easy option there wouldn't be so many people still here on this site. I think in the end I will take a lot of xanax (I am familiar with it because I have been prescribed it for years) and then hang.

 

[CursedSoul]

may have potential leads on buying F (not on the deep web, so beware), if you're willing to take the risk and try it, i can send sources

 

[art355]

It's from a screencap of a page in the PPeH. Somebody posted it on the last page.
View attachment 94547
If that's not D's price, then I guess that figure had to come from Philip Nitschke? Shit, for that I can fly myself and some friends to Switzerland and get offed by Pegasos. I think they have an intravenous option, so you don't even have to taste whatever's going inside you.

Is it really that easy if you go to Switzerland?

 

[Smart No More]

may have potential leads on buying F (not on the deep web, so beware), if you're willing to take the risk and try it, i can send sources

Always interested.

 

[Nzbus]

may have potential leads on buying F (not on the deep web, so beware), if you're willing to take the risk and try it, i can send sources

I'm interested too

 

[LeavingEarly]

pure fent is soooo strong. it really doesn't take much at all. i've OD'd on it a few times with extremely light microgram dosing. if i took half mg no question i'd be gone fast. everyone is different tho and tolerance/purity plays a big factor. i've tried that synthetic x level china white. there's no comparison!

What is it like overdosing?

 

[befree]

Is it really that easy if you go to Switzerland?

You can find all infos about VAD in Switzerland when you visit the websites of: Pegasos, Lifecircle, Dignitas, Ex International.

 

[Advisor321]

You can find all infos about VAD in Switzerland when you visit the websites of: Pegasos, Lifecircle, Dignitas, Ex International.

But still, as I know you need to be terminally ill if you want to use VAD in Switzerland? It is not for anyone?

 

[befree]

But still, as I know you need to be terminally ill if you want to use VAD in Switzerland? It is not for anyone?

I don´t know how many times I tried to explain that you do NOT have to be terminally ill ! Use the search function and you will find lots of informations and visit the websites of all VAD associations, especially Pegasos. I´m not going to repeat everything again and again.

 

[Advisor321]

I don´t know how many times I tried to explain that you do NOT have to be terminally ill ! Use the search function and you will find lots of informations and visit the websites of all VAD associations, especially Pegasos. I´m not going to repeat everything again and again.

Oh sorry
I meant more like, mental illness is not acceptable for Pegasos

 

[Smart No More]

Oh sorry
I meant more like, mental illness is not acceptable for Pegasos

To be fair, it takes specific circumstances to be considered on the grounds of a mental health condition. Not everyone with mental health issues will be accepted. You didn't do anything wrong. Some people's fuses are lit more easily than others.

 

[letmegetout]

Opioids cause respiratory depression. Wouldnt describe it as "painless"

You aren't aware of it, it's not like feeling like you can't breathe, respiratory depression is just everything slowing down to a stop- respiratory arrest.