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derpyderpins

derpyderpins

Misery Minimization Activist
Sep 19, 2023
257
Yes, I'm sure calling depression, anxiety, etc. a "real" illness is accepted by most people here, but it never will be at large. So many times with me it's the same story: I start a class or a job and do great at first but simply can't keep up. After some time, be it days, weeks, or months, I fall behind and end up spending most of my day not getting work done from distractions/mental blocks/whatever you want to call it. I've done the therapy, meds, excercise, etc. No help.

I know it's horrible, but deep down I wish I could have some physical illness that would garner real pity and patience. Ideally, it would be something that simply explains why I am the way I am: something that changes how my brain works or makes me unusually tired. Then, when someone says "hey where are we on that assignment" I could say "sorry my X has been acting up." If X is something like cancer, the answer is "oh, don't worry, take all the time you need." If X is a mental health problem, you're weak and lazy and a detriment.

Pity is underrated, imo. I just want to truly rest. If it has to be in physical pain in a hospital bed, I'd take it. Then, whatever I'm able to do would be a great accomplishment.

Not looking for help, just wondering if anyone else fantasizes about getting a brain tumor or hurt in an accident or similar.
 
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withdrawal_

New Member
Feb 17, 2023
1
When I was younger I would constantly fantasise about having all sorts of illnesses because no one would take my depression seriously. I had actual doctors tell me to my face, "You are just going through puberty." I went through hell trying to get into CAHMS for nothing to happen, I did not even know if I was in it even. It is complete bullshit how mental illnesses are not taken seriously, especially depression and borderline personality disorder.

But yes, you are not alone :heart:
 
KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,508
The ignorance people have surrounding invisible illnesses is astonishing. Sometimes, there can be no greater suffering than being perpetually tormented by the "mind" as we call it. Though I think that labelling malfunctions of the brain as this intangible, distinct psychological thing, a separate construct of mental/psychiatric illness that is distinct from neurological disorders, achieves nothing but doing people who are suffering from them a large disservice.

Any thought, feeling, emotion, or signal of pain all stems from the brain, a physical organ. Just because we have no way of empirically measuring such cognitive states does not make them any less real, but unfortunately there is culture of individualism in most places that purports one can control their own destiny with willpower alone, including their mental state and outlook towards the world, even when scientific evidence begs to differ. I know how completely pseudoscientific this is because I have a neuroscience degree, while many laypeople get their information from pop psychology clickbait online and never actually read any clinical literature about the brain and how it works.

This phenomenon has actually been studied before, and it has been proven that people can cope better with illness when their pain is acknowledged and taken seriously by authority figures (I.e. doctors) as well as the community that surrounds them in their personal life. Unfortunately a huge driver of how seriously someone's ill state will be taken is influenced by how the medical community views their symptoms, and if they have a diagnosis which garners empathy and support in the perception of others, something which can visibly be seen typically. Yet by creating this culture of shrugging off invisible and misunderstood illnesses especially if they are considered mental in nature, it is actually having negative knockdown effects and making everything worse.

I sympathize with your plight completely as I have had PTSD since I was a young child and people have always acted like I can control it or wish it away, that it isn't actually real. Also, I have had strange health problems for almost a decade now that stole my youth away and have irreversibly ruined my life. Because diagnostic tests have been inconclusive, most people do not take it seriously and think it's either fake or I need to get over it. I've had chronic pain for years and 0 pain management offered except generic NSAIDs.

Now, compare that to how I was treated when I had multiple large tumors, and the medical staff didn't know if I had cancer yet or not. It was like night and day. Top of the line pain management before surgery, more compassion, for once other people actually acted like I had a "valid" health problem. Despite how bad the whole ordeal was, I would say years of chronic illness was and still is worse than having tumors in my own personal situation. And my tumors completely made me unable to use the bathroom unassisted for a long time. I would take going through those few months again any day over the years of suffering I've been through otherwise.

At the end of the day, these misconceptions stem from how the public perceives certain illnesses as worse or more real than others, and how fatality is perceived as the worst outcome rather than prolonged, incurable suffering. There are people I have known in my lifetime who don't get a single day of peace due to mental illness or chronic pain, constantly being tormented by horrible symptoms. Then I have also met people in my life who had certain types of cancers (which is something I learned about quite extensively in my degree as well) who don't even have to undergo chemotherapy, akin to my tumor situation, they have a single operation and it's over and done with.

You can guess whose situation would be perceived as worse though, even though one person is living symptom free and with low risk of pathologic reoccurrence, while the others are in the throes of suicidality. People are just widely misinformed and think that depression, or PTSD, or anxiety, etc is just feeling low for a couple days and sorry for yourself, not grasping the spectrum of suffering than can occur. Likewise, they'd view ALL tumors as something completely incurable, intolerable, and fatal, even though with modern technology and surgical techniques more and more types of cancer and benign growths as well are highly treatable, similar to how HIV became clinically manageable with the advent of anti-retroviral drug therapies.
 
derpyderpins

derpyderpins

Misery Minimization Activist
Sep 19, 2023
257
I sympathize with your plight completely as I have had PTSD since I was a young child and people have always acted like I can control it or wish it away, that it isn't actually real. Also, I have had strange health problems for almost a decade now that stole my youth away and have irreversibly ruined my life. Because diagnostic tests have been inconclusive, most people do not take it seriously and think it's either fake or I need to get over it. I've had chronic pain for years and 0 pain management offered except generic NSAIDs.

Now, compare that to how I was treated when I had multiple large tumors, and the medical staff didn't know if I had cancer yet or not. It was like night and day. Top of the line pain management before surgery, more compassion, for once other people actually acted like I had a "valid" health problem. Despite how bad the whole ordeal was, I would say years of chronic illness was and still is worse than having tumors in my own personal situation. And my tumors completely made me unable to use the bathroom unassisted for a long time. I would take going through those few months again any day over the years of suffering I've been through otherwise.

This is an incredible juxtaposition that confirms my suspicions. Thank you for sharing it and I'm so sorry you had to go through all of this.
 

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