Help Failing helium method?

[eepymumu8]

I tried that too, but I failed. I didn't pass out for 2 minutes... it was the worst.
I just removed the bag and was left with dizziness.

 

[mtoro998]

Its possible your exit bag wasnt as air tight as you thought. You should do the scuba diving mask method for the highest success. Also you might be buying your helium from a scammer site that looks similar to the real site.

 

[Wendigo]

Hmm, strange. From what I have read when people failed with the exit bag method it was either because they used helium that wasn't pure, in which case they didn't pass out or they had industrial grade helium/nitrogen and passed out quite quickly, but tore the bag off while unconscious. If you didn't fall unconscious I think it seems likely to be a purity problem.

yeah, I know someone who passed out in less than 30 seconds, but tore the bag off while unconscious, followed by 18h of severe hypoxia and muscle pain. A wonderful experience. I would recommend using sleeping pills or some benzos, tying up your hands also works.
Survival instincts are quite something.

 

[NegevChina]

I've heard on other suicide forums people do everything right like how you explained and the method just doesn't work. That's why I gave up on this method and didn't even bother buying materials for it. It's not reliable. Figures, sounded way too peaceful of an end. I no longer trust any sort of method like this with nitrogen or helium. If I'm gonna do it I'm gonna have to get the balls to jump off a parking garage at my local college or jump in front of a subway. Can't buy a gun. The only other method that I might try is the charcoal method and dying by carbon monoxide. That seems like it has more success rate.

I've considered CO myself, even bought the supplies, a good CO meter, but now understand failing is very dangerous if some thing goes wrong, and you might be left with brain damage, organ damage, but alive. My current method im considering is jumping and that is not perfect also.

 

[thefinalfavour]

yeah, I know someone who passed out in less than 30 seconds, but tore the bag off while unconscious, followed by 18h of severe hypoxia and muscle pain. A wonderful experience. I would recommend using sleeping pills or some benzos, tying up your hands also works.
Survival instincts are quite something.

How would tying up your hands be possible here? Do you do it after you have pulled down the bag? Do you even have enough time to do that if that's the case?

 

[NegevChina]

>Bag on head
>Squish bag so all air goes out
>Fill bag with helium
>Exhale all air from lungs
>Pull down bag
>Breathe
>....
>....
>....
>Nothing happens

What kind of bullshit is that? I have never passed out in my life so maybe I am a mutant or something but seriously wtf? I've read that most people pass out in a few seconds, at most 10 breaths, the maximum 90 seconds(some say 2 minutes,but would 30sec really change anything? I don't think so) I even saw a pig pass out in less than 20 seconds. But me? I went 90 seconds and didn't even feel dizzy. What the hell????

I need a solution.

Anyways, you might be tempted to say the helium is shit quality but that's not true. It changed my voice. It made balloons fly for a LONG time. Way longer than those helium mix filled ballons. It also from a proper company and they say it is 99% pure.

So, why the hell did I not pass out? At MOST i had a miniscule bit of drowsyness and miniscule dizyness but that's it. I can't believe this....

What should I do?

How are you keeping the flow of Helium in to the bag once its over your head? That is the most technically complicated detail of this method. May be the problem is there? may be some air is getting in. If you have no mechanism for that its more like chocking with just a bag over your head. Cant see any other option except for un-pure helium mixed with oxygen. This should be probably the most peaceful wat to CTB.

 

[Wendigo]

How would tying up your hands be possible here? Do you do it after you have pulled down the bag? Do you even have enough time to do that if that's the case?

You do have enough time to do that if you don't prefill the exit bag with helium before pulling it down.

 

[thefinalfavour]

You do have enough time to do that if you don't prefill the exit bag with helium before pulling it down.

Isn't prefilling the exit bag before you pull it down the standard protocol though?

 

[Wendigo]

Isn't prefilling the exit bag before you pull it down the standard protocol though?

It is, but the standard protocol doesn't mention tying up your hands neither.
The helium method is effective if you can manage your survival instincts, and there a few ways to do this: sleeping pills, benzos, tying up your hands etc.

 

[L'absent]

In short, this helium method really seems like pure illusion. You don't die.

 

[Wendigo]

In short, this helium method really seems like pure illusion. You don't die.

It just requires technique and some practice. Most of the people try to pull it off without practicing first which is a big mistake as you risk severe brain damage.

 

[Leiot]

If it didn't work there are only a few reasons it could happen. The helium you bought isn't really pure, there was a leak somewhere, the bag wasn't sealed or there was a problem with the airflow.

It's disturbing you don't want to say where you got the helium but that doesn't really matter. Unless one of us ends up getting it at the same place.

Start testing everything.

1. The first thing I'd do is try a different supplier of gas. It sounds like your design was good. If you're in the US it's very, very difficult to get pure helium and if you do it's very expensive. If the person even remotely thought you may try to CTB it's not out of the realm of possibility that they lied to you. Or try nitrogen.
2. Run some kind of pressure test on the hoses and bag. Could be a regulator problem.
3. Run a test and try a mask of some kind and see if you pass out.. A CPAP or Scuba mask would be good. That will tell you if the gas & regulator are good.
4. Double check your design and components. Is it the right kind of bag, etc.

 

[L'absent]

It just requires technique and some practice. Most of the people try to pull it off without practicing first which is a big mistake as you risk severe brain damage.

There are many detailed explanations around the web, but they are of no use, it doesn't work. If it were truly a painless and above all successful method, its diffusion would be enormous. In reality this is not the case.

 

[kreikrei]

There are many detailed explanations around the web, but they are of no use, it doesn't work. If it were truly a painless and above all successful method, its diffusion would be enormous. In reality this is not the case.

High investment (both money and also technical "procedure") for high reward
It absolutely works and when done correctly, fast and painless
Most peope lack the attention to detail and ability to learn - which is understandable due to being suicidal

 

[L'absent]

High investment (both money and also technical "procedure") for high reward
It absolutely works and when done correctly, fast and painless
Most peope lack the attention to detail and ability to learn - which is understandable due to being suicidal

How do you know that most people don't pay attention to details?

 

[kreikrei]

How do you know that most people don't pay attention to details?

What other explanations are there?
Inert gasses (assuming they are 99+% pure) in a closed space kill - period, no denying a scientific fact
It it doesnt kill, the user made a mistake somewhere. Usually the mistake is not paying attention to small details, especially when building an eit mask, for example, like making sure there are no leaks

 

[L'absent]

What other explanations are there?
Inert gasses (assuming they are 99+% pure) in a closed space kill - period, no denying a scientific fact
It it doesnt kill, the user made a mistake somewhere. Usually the mistake is not paying attention to small details, especially when building an eit mask, for example, like making sure there are no leaks

Helium is advertised as interesting because it is PAINLESS and if the environment is completely closed (as you suggest) it is not painless. At this point it's no longer interesting. It's not a question of disputing a scientific fact. Putting a plastic bag on your head kills, this is also a scientific fact and it kills you without the need for additional gas, at a cost of almost 0 cents. Helium is a total failure. You say that in a closed space it works. No one disputes this SCIENTIFIC statement of yours. What is contested is Helium's ability to kill without causing any kind of pain. These are the facts! It should be put among the methods that should not be applied and advertised here in the forum.

 

[kreikrei]

Why do you think it is not painless?
If the exit mask is well built, consciousness is gone within seconds
The convulsions and other movements happen after loss of consciousness