yeah, I know someone who passed out in less than 30 seconds, but tore the bag off while unconscious, followed by 18h of severe hypoxia and muscle pain. A wonderful experience. I would recommend using sleeping pills or some benzos, tying up your hands also works.
I've considered CO myself, even bought the supplies, a good CO meter, but now understand failing is very dangerous if some thing goes wrong, and you might be left with brain damage, organ damage, but alive. My current method im considering is jumping and that is not perfect also.
How would tying up your hands be possible here? Do you do it after you have pulled down the bag? Do you even have enough time to do that if that's the case?
How are you keeping the flow of Helium in to the bag once its over your head? That is the most technically complicated detail of this method. May be the problem is there? may be some air is getting in. If you have no mechanism for that its more like chocking with just a bag over your head. Cant see any other option except for un-pure helium mixed with oxygen. This should be probably the most peaceful wat to CTB.
You do have enough time to do that if you don't prefill the exit bag with helium before pulling it down.
Isn't prefilling the exit bag before you pull it down the standard protocol though?
It is, but the standard protocol doesn't mention tying up your hands neither.
It just requires technique and some practice. Most of the people try to pull it off without practicing first which is a big mistake as you risk severe brain damage.
There are many detailed explanations around the web, but they are of no use, it doesn't work. If it were truly a painless and above all successful method, its diffusion would be enormous. In reality this is not the case.
High investment (both money and also technical "procedure") for high reward
What other explanations are there?
Helium is advertised as interesting because it is PAINLESS and if the environment is completely closed (as you suggest) it is not painless. At this point it's no longer interesting. It's not a question of disputing a scientific fact. Putting a plastic bag on your head kills, this is also a scientific fact and it kills you without the need for additional gas, at a cost of almost 0 cents. Helium is a total failure. You say that in a closed space it works. No one disputes this SCIENTIFIC statement of yours. What is contested is Helium's ability to kill without causing any kind of pain. These are the facts! It should be put among the methods that should not be applied and advertised here in the forum.
