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bubo
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- Jul 14, 2022
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it was a terrible idea to do it on a empty stomach. If you are too hungry you'll need more and may overreact to the side effects. not that i think i can change your mind nor am i telling you what to do (you have free will over your life. Your life, your choice.) but i'd opt out on taking drugs as a way out as a whole. yes, it'll vary with each attempt but the pain and side effects from a failed attempt just isn't worth it, plus it's a lot of work even with a sucessful attempt. You might be paralyzed for days at a time if you fail a attempt with drugs and not getting able to get up and take a piss isn't very fun, it'll make you just end up regretting it, take it from me.
if you are though even with what i've said then please eat something before you do to higher chances so you won't have to suffer the conseqences of a unsuccessful attempt. (i repeat, the consequences of a unsuccessful attempt in drugs are horrible. One woman reclaimed in the hospital after a unsuccessful attempt "i still want to die but i never want to attempt suicide again if i have to stuffer like that.")
(i'd like to apologize in advance if this reply comes off as too pushy or "i know better than you" kind of way, that's really not what i meant with this.)
if you are though even with what i've said then please eat something before you do to higher chances so you won't have to suffer the conseqences of a unsuccessful attempt. (i repeat, the consequences of a unsuccessful attempt in drugs are horrible. One woman reclaimed in the hospital after a unsuccessful attempt "i still want to die but i never want to attempt suicide again if i have to stuffer like that.")
(i'd like to apologize in advance if this reply comes off as too pushy or "i know better than you" kind of way, that's really not what i meant with this.)
SofterSoftest
Student
- Dec 30, 2021
- 186
OP, I'm very sorry about your situation. Even if you don't have any symptoms, I do recommend seeing a doctor and asking for a full panel blood test. SN can affect the kidneys and the problems won't necessarily show any symptoms right away - if your doctor catches anything wrong, they can treat it quickly and prevent something that can become serious over time. In case you're wondering about a back story, you can easily say you were trying to learn to cure meat, and you added too much SN to your curing mix.
When you say that you ingested 1/3 cup of SN, is that the amount of SN you put in water, or did you mean that you mixed 1/3 cup of water with a very small amount of SN? The reason I'm asking is because 1/3 cup of SN is well over 25 grams, so it would be alarming if this didn't work.
Did you order your SN from IC, DD, the jungle, or some other seller? Was your SN kept in an air-tight bag or container, or was it exposed to air for some time?
When you say that you ingested 1/3 cup of SN, is that the amount of SN you put in water, or did you mean that you mixed 1/3 cup of water with a very small amount of SN? The reason I'm asking is because 1/3 cup of SN is well over 25 grams, so it would be alarming if this didn't work.
Did you order your SN from IC, DD, the jungle, or some other seller? Was your SN kept in an air-tight bag or container, or was it exposed to air for some time?
Thank you for your concern. I am not in a position where I can go to a doctor and get myself checked out :( I meant that I mixed 1/3 cup of water with a small amount of sn (I just poured some in there it all dissolved so there was none sitting at the bottom or anything). I ordered it off amzn months ago. It was just in a plastic pouch so not the most air tight. I have a feeling my sn wasn't as strong because it was exposed to air and a little old.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation about SN.
Thankfully, that's not a side effect of SN. That's one of the reasons it's a popular method on this site. The mechanism by which it kills you is extremely unlikely to leave you in a vegetative state. You would be dead before that has a chance of happening. I never say anything is 100% guaranteed, but there's not a single case report of SN leading to this.
There have been concerns that nitrites used as food preservatives could increase risk for cancer through conversion to nitrosamines, but no study that I'm aware of has shown a link. Very little is known about the long-term effects of SN used in the way we're talking about.
You are supposed to take the SN on an empty stomach. It's what allows it to reach your intestine for absorption more quickly. You should fast for 6-8 hours before taking SN, and stop drinking water about 2 hours before.
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Really? I thought doing it on an empty stomach was ideal in order for your body to absorb the sn faster? I don't have any other way to ctb, sn is the only thing I've been able to get my hands on. Thank you for your concern and thank you for clarifying your intent. A lot of people have been giving me very condescending replies.
SofterSoftest
Student
- Dec 30, 2021
- 186
This is a good post, but I did want to point out that SN is very much considered a carcinogen. It is often used in combination with other compounds to induce malignancies in mice: https://doi.org/10.1093/jnci/46.5.1029. This doesn't mean that every person who ingests SN once will get cancer, but it is important to be aware of heightened cancer risk in the event of survival (and I still think a person's doc should be aware of SN ingestion history, because that way they can do routine screening).
You are correct. You need to do it on an empty stomach. I'm sorry for the difficulty of your situation and for the fact that you've been met with some unpleasant replies. I agree with everyone who has commented to abide by Stan's Guide. @london3 provided a very informative chart as well.
interesting how one would interpret safety warnings of the dangers of reckless suicidal gestures as "mean". they just don't want you to make your life worse, which seems rather kind. one should carry out the method as properly as they can.
london3
Banned Scammer
- May 5, 2022
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You bought from Amazon? Are you sure it was not sodium nitrATE nano3? You should have bought sodium nitriTE nano2
If it was the correct sodium and it was exposed to air for a few months, then it might have degraded. But without reading the label it will be difficult to know.
Yes, you need to fast for 8 hours, just have a light meal 12 hours before and your last water say 6 hours before.
Yes please follow stans guide. No one wants OP or anyone else to get hurt or be in unnecessary stress. We all want to ctb in as peaceful way as possible, while doing it in a calm state of mind.
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Actually someone posted the table below- I thought this was in Stan's Guyide more clearly, I think Stan's Guide may have been updated- 20 -25grams is tha range I think thney previously listed in STan's Guide, but there is a more precise guie in the excel table someone posted below- it is important to go by weight, rather than volume, though, since densiry varies some.
According to the excel table you posted, which has been around this site for a while, 25g corresponds to a person's weight of 220 llbs, and 44.5 grams corresponds to a body weight of 506 lbs, so this is higher than recommended for most people. 25g is already several times the lethal dose. Ths person said they were light, so if they arre 132 lbs that would correspond to 19 grams. There is a higher risk of vomiting from using too much.
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Thank you so much :) I really needed that, I hope you are able to find the peace you deserve :) sending hugs!
Telling me that I took sn "as a joke" or "a cry for help" without understanding my situation isn't very nice. Or that I "didn't bother" to do it right. I understand the concern and agree with many of the points people are making. There is always a kinder way to advise and warn someone. Please remember you don't always know what the other person is going through or what they were feeling in the moment. Again thank you for the concern.
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london3
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20-25g is the correct amount for most people. People should follow the chart and use a jewellery scale to measure the sn. Vomiting is always a risk, another important factor is your location and to not be stopped and sent to hospital etc. Most of the people that fail is because they got caught.
of course we can never know what strangers on the internet are really thinking or experiencing. that is a given. but we can make assessments based on the information we are presented with. there is no shame in doing something as an expression of one's desperation without actually intending to ctb. existence can be cruel, and sometimes we want help. maybe the recovery forum would benefit you.
bubo
Student
- Jul 14, 2022
- 100
I see, i deeply apologize for adding to the spread of misinformation and stupidity. I probably should've done some extra research on the topic of SN before hand before making a paragraph like that.
Yeahh, i noticed in the replies of your post that people seem to be mad at you for failing your attempt for some reason, it's strange and honestly very rude (though i guess that's the internet for you) glad your still here though even if i'm just a intruder in your online presence, sending internet hugs your way.
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locked*n*loaded
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- Apr 15, 2022
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A doctor may go along with this, but they aren't going to believe it. They aren't stupid. They've seen and treated plenty of suicide attempts and I'm sure most of them are well aware of ctb methods, including SN. This kind of thing gets covered regularly in their journals.
I would guess that yes it is carcinogenic, since it is abundant in cured meats/cold cuts, and high consumption of cured meats are known to increase your risk of cancer... But I'm pretty sure that most people who eat cold cuts have consumed more than 25g of SN over the course of their lifetime. But SN is not something you consume regularly for lunch so I doubt it would have any carcinogenic effect when using it for CTB, even if you try it a few times.
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