Help Expired Phenazepam or Phenobarbital for SN method?

[SaudadeSea]

Hey. Unfortunately I don't have search option available yet cause I am a newbie here, so I had to make a new post.
So I've got an expired Phenazepam (6 months) which I was prescribed years ago and never tried. I've never tried any benzos actually. The question is - can I still use it even though it's old? I've heard Phenazepam has quite a bad reputation among benzos because of blackouts and stuff, but I guess it wouldn't matter if my goal is to ctb anyway, lol. But the fact that it's expired concerns me.
I could give it a test and try out (without whole protocol), but I am a bit scared.
If it's no use because of expiration, then I won't be able to get another benzo in time, I have kind of a deadline in 8 days - surgery which I don't want to deal with.

But I could get some sedatives instead. In my country it is very easy to get Phenobarbital and as far as I remember (used to take some during exams years ago to deal with stress) it has quite a strong effect on making a person sleepy and careless. So I am thinking it might be a nice alternative to benzos to fight SI? Or am I wrong?

 

[lostloser]

I understand your worries. I have a lot of out of date tricyclics, some by years and just don't know if it's worth keeping them in my 'just in case' bag. I don't have a specific timeline as you do. I hope you manage to find your peace.

 

[monolog]

I believe that expired benzos would work the same

 

[Goth_tt_B]

I'm not sure if they will or not but what I do know is when I've taken expired pills, they just made me puke..

 

[SaudadeSea]

I think I will get Phenobarbital. If Phenazepam really does give blackouts (and I've read they can last for 1-3days, the hell?) I don't think I can afford wasting that much time just to test if it still works. I mean I could.. but I still haven't prepared all the other stuff like getting rid of things I don't wish somebody to find. The time is running out and I can't even say I am 100% sure I am ready mentally. If I can't even make myself test an expired benzo, how am I supposed to make myself ctb. Why the hell it has to be so complicated.