Discussion Exit bag reliability

[SpottedPanda]

I'm not sure how helpful it'll be, but I can tell you about my utterly abysmal failure with this method.

Before I found this forum, and just going on what I'd read in the PPH, and other probably not so thorough internet resources, I bought party helium, bought the only piping I could find from Amazon, a somewhat rigid piping that meant I had to have the gas at an exact angle from my head whilst laying down for it to stay put, with sticky tack under the canister to keep it from spinning.

I got drunk, and what surprised me is that when I turned the gas on (no regulator), the gas made such a violent hissing sound that it would have been apparent two rooms off in the otherwise silent house. This was a massive red flag for me.

I'd got a Sainsbury's shopping back without holes, used black tape to fit the tubing to the bag through a hole I'd punctured through it with a pen. The tubing was taped to the gas canister rubber nozzle haphazardly.

I sat there, listening to my 'Hits of '99' mix, listening to this God awful loud hissing, and right before I was about to attempt to put my head under (I had elastic bands on my neck that would have been perfect), I felt a shock wave in my solar plexus. Maybe it's the same shock as you feel when you're about to get hit by a car or something, and you know it. I just couldn't go through with it.

Upon further contemplation I'm not quite sure what stopped the attempt. It was certainly the feeling of sudden shock on my solar plexus. I'm not sure if that's purely visceral SI. But I know know it would have likely have had complications due to being balloon helium.

Whatever the reason, the whole setup just felt off, and I abandoned the idea of suicide for a month or two, before finding this forum due to a resurgence of suicide interest, and choosing a preferred method.

I don't think I could do the exit bag now, after that, if I had perfect materials. It was definitely a 'what not to do' scenario.

 

[rancho]

Look around for another thread called 'I'm thinking of doing the exit bag metjod. Does anyone have any advice for this method?'. Not sure if I'm allowed to link it but there's a video on there along with some annotations to help you understand it, I'm going to follow that guide using 99% helium.

Does anybody know where this video is?

 

[WearyOfStruggling]

It looks like this is the thread @Nowilltoluve90 referred to, and although the video link no longer works, based on the comments it was either one of the two "Doing it with Betty" videos from Exit International, also available in the Resource Compilation thread (in BedsideViewing.rar), or the "Doing it with Chi" video also in the Resource Compilation thread.

I've been researching methods a lot of the last few weeks and I came to the conclusion that the exit bag filled with Nitrogen. It appears that this method is painless if done correctly. You die of hypoxia (NOT suffocation) and the resultant brain damage, because your brain thinks it is breathing oxygen. As long as you expel all carbon dioxide out first. I've watched videos on youtube with people removing their oxygen masks at high altitude and they experienced no pain and would have died if they left it any longer.

The method seems quite complicated though. I don't know what size nitrogen tank I need to get, what pressure regulator I need, what size tubing I need to fit over the nozzle.

Is anyone planning to attempt this method or know anyone who attempted it? Have you got any advice and pointers? Help is really appreciated, I have been feeling awful for a long time now and just want to end things asap.

"doing it with chi" and "doing it with betty" are some pretty good videos on it.

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(doing it with Betty)
Also, I've seen this image being passed around View attachment 19

But I do not know how reliable and correct this guide is.

This won't answer all of your questions but this will help you quite a bit I believe.

 

[Englishman94]

my only problem is how tight the bag should be when pulled down or should there be a small gap for C02 to escape

 

[lmon]

Read 'the complete manual of suicide' by wataru tsurumi. It explains every question you have and more. You can find it online and free

Is it more descriptive than the peaceful pill handbook?

 

[lmon]

I am what you would call an exit bag survivor.

Survived an attempt (recently) with a 5L - 300 bar nitrogen gastank with everything connected correctly, full tank, high purity (5.0 - meaning 99.999% pure industrial grade), flow of 15L, airtight hose, turkey roasting bag etc, thought I had perfect execution. After starting my attempt woke up 45 mins later with the bag over my head. I think my failure was in having the bag quite loosely around my neck (although I did use an elastic cord) which allowed oxygen to flow into the bag.

Answering the OPs questions

1. How does one physically feel during the execution of this method?
I felt calm (and determined) fine physically, did drug myself a bit beforehand with some benzos to overcome SI. I do not remember anything after maybe 20 seconds of pulling the bag over my head. No nausea at all.

2. Does the exit bag bring any complicated side effects if failed to do right?
I have read horror stories here of failed attempts carrying the risk of severe brain damage and / or becoming a vegetable. Upon waking up I had a slight headache, forgetfulness, slow movement - similar to being very drunk. This dissipated after a day. If it were not for oxygen leaking into the bag (most probably) I would not have been here to recount my experiences. Cannot comment on possible outcomes with a brain completely derived of oxygen for a longer period of time.

3. Any things to consider before executing this method that are not common knowledge or at least are very often ignored?
- The flow of gas out of your cylinder makes a hissing sound, this might alert others, so be sure to be alone or drown out the hissing sound with music
- I'd say be sure to be comfortable with your bag, it needs to be large enough so you can breathe in it without the plastic sticking to your mouth

Learnt some valuable lessons from this failed attempt:
- No panic or SI at all when starting, don't remember going out - which makes me very comfortable giving this method another go when the time comes
- No attempt to rip the bag off my head, it was quite peaceful
- No recollection at all with the bag over my head apart from the first 20 or so seconds

Got a new tank, fixed the cord issue, will attempt again soon.

PS. I have been a member of this forum before under a different username. I've had the honour of discussing the method directly with FightingSioux (RIP)

What was the "chord issue"?

I am what you would call an exit bag survivor.

Survived an attempt (recently) with a 5L - 300 bar nitrogen gastank with everything connected correctly, full tank, high purity (5.0 - meaning 99.999% pure industrial grade), flow of 15L, airtight hose, turkey roasting bag etc, thought I had perfect execution. After starting my attempt woke up 45 mins later with the bag over my head. I think my failure was in having the bag quite loosely around my neck (although I did use an elastic cord) which allowed oxygen to flow into the bag.

Answering the OPs questions

1. How does one physically feel during the execution of this method?
I felt calm (and determined) fine physically, did drug myself a bit beforehand with some benzos to overcome SI. I do not remember anything after maybe 20 seconds of pulling the bag over my head. No nausea at all.

2. Does the exit bag bring any complicated side effects if failed to do right?
I have read horror stories here of failed attempts carrying the risk of severe brain damage and / or becoming a vegetable. Upon waking up I had a slight headache, forgetfulness, slow movement - similar to being very drunk. This dissipated after a day. If it were not for oxygen leaking into the bag (most probably) I would not have been here to recount my experiences. Cannot comment on possible outcomes with a brain completely derived of oxygen for a longer period of time.

3. Any things to consider before executing this method that are not common knowledge or at least are very often ignored?
- The flow of gas out of your cylinder makes a hissing sound, this might alert others, so be sure to be alone or drown out the hissing sound with music
- I'd say be sure to be comfortable with your bag, it needs to be large enough so you can breathe in it without the plastic sticking to your mouth

Learnt some valuable lessons from this failed attempt:
- No panic or SI at all when starting, don't remember going out - which makes me very comfortable giving this method another go when the time comes
- No attempt to rip the bag off my head, it was quite peaceful
- No recollection at all with the bag over my head apart from the first 20 or so seconds

Got a new tank, fixed the cord issue, will attempt again soon.

PS. I have been a member of this forum before under a different username. I've had the honour of discussing the method directly with FightingSioux (RIP)

Did you read horror stories here of actual severe brain damage from exit bag or potential severe brain damage?

 

[bigfishlittlefish]

Thanks a lot! I've checked that video out and it helped. Still, I am very interested in finding out the answer to my two main questions.



Is there a difference between nitrogen and helium? And a little silly question: will my last breath be an "Elvin and the chipmunks" style sigh? Idk that fact alone makes me lean more towards the nitrogen option, to be honest.

Biologically speaking, nitrogen will be less distressing. It will replace the oxygen in your blood and you therefore won't feel like you're suffocating, which you will with other gases.

Is it more descriptive than the peaceful pill handbook?

The PPeH is *super* informative. I have a link for the most up-to-date version if you need/want it.

 

[lmon]

Biologically speaking, nitrogen will be less distressing. It will replace the oxygen in your blood and you therefore won't feel like you're suffocating, which you will with other gases.

The PPeH is *super* informative. I have a link for the most up-to-date version if you need/want it.

Sure. Thank you sm

 

[bigfishlittlefish]

Sure. Thank you sm

https://fs-01.cyberdrop.to/PPeH_Nov_(25)_2021-3SFMAtwR.pdf