evil lurks among us

[Darkover]

you don't let evil exist it's a matter of principle and since all life is evil you must destory it all

 

[whatevs]

Universal Omnicide when? Let's free the Spirit from its flesh prison.

 

[Darkover]

Universal Omnicide when? Let's free the Spirit from its flesh prison.

inevitably we have at best 194 years to get of this earth into space to collect more resources and we are no where near of achiving anything like that, machine AI will take over within the next 100 years humans wont be in control anymore since AI machine are vaslty superior integience , no one wants monkeys to rule over them and ai machines will see us as monkeys, tick tock inevitably there is no spirit if there was we wouldent be here in the first place you are just a machine made up of atoms

 

[Forever Sleep]

I doubt anyone here has the capabilities of destroying ALL life.

Morality is a human concept. Most organisms are just doing their best to survive without even realising it is 'wrong.'

I do understand where you are coming from- that all life seems to exist by killing other life. So is inherently 'evil.' Still, not ALL animals/plants do this. There must be the odd exception- dung beetles maybe. Are they 'evil?'

I assume that you see obliterating everything as an act of vigilantism rather than mass murder?

 

[Darkover]

I doubt anyone here has the capabilities of destroying ALL life.

Morality is a human concept. Most organisms are just doing their best to survive without even realising it is 'wrong.'

I do understand where you are coming from- that all life seems to exist by killing other life. So is inherently 'evil.' Still, not ALL animals/plants do this. There must be the odd exception- dung beetles maybe. Are they 'evil?'

I assume that you see obliterating everything as an act of vigilantism rather than mass murder?

it's mass murder for sure but killing everything alive in one strike, beetles are evil too after all thier made up of biology with birth defects and injury and disease nothing alive is good it's all inherently evil

 

[whatevs]

inevitably we have at best 194 years to get of this earth into space to collect more resources and we are no where near of achiving anything like that, machine AI will take over within the next 100 years humans wont be in control anymore since AI machine are vaslty superior integience , no one wants monkeys to rule over them and ai machines will see us as monkeys, tick tock inevitably there is no spirit if there was we wouldent be here in the first place you are just a machine made up of atoms

Who engineered the machine? Was it self assembled out of chance? What are the odds of something so intricate to develop randomly and keep going for millions of years?

I doubt anyone here has the capabilities of destroying ALL life.

Morality is a human concept. Most organisms are just doing their best to survive without even realising it is 'wrong.'

I do understand where you are coming from- that all life seems to exist by killing other life. So is inherently 'evil.' Still, not ALL animals/plants do this. There must be the odd exception- dung beetles maybe. Are they 'evil?'

I assume that you see obliterating everything as an act of vigilantism rather than mass murder?

He's making a generic efilist argument, because life begets suffering then life is to be rejected. Evil in this context just means flawed, doomed, cursed, crooked, undesirable.

 

[Forever Sleep]

it's mass murder for sure but killing everything alive in one strike, beetles are evil too after all thier made up of biology with birth defects and injury and disease nothing alive is good it's all inherently evil

Yeah, I do take your point. A grand scale mercy killing of everything to prevent all possible future suffering. Imagine only an epic scale natural disaster, annihilation by aliens or AI or some 'God' level intervention could achieve this though. Guess anything is possible...

 

[Darkover]

Who engineered the machine? Was it self assembled out of chance? What are the odds of something so intricate to develop randomly and keep going for millions of years?

the question should be who engineered the atoms because they self assemble , nothing created them everything has come about via matter existing all by its self no creator is needed it's been going on for 14 billion years that we know off at least this unverise there could be more than one, it's all about the complexity of the components and the vast quantity and time, with infinite computational power someone could create a universe simulator and create something like life has we see it today but somehow the components mainfested themsevles and space already existed long before the big bang started theres just infinite space out there

 

[whatevs]

the question should be who engineered the atoms because they self assemble , nothing created them everything has come about via matter existing all by its self no creator is needed it's been going on for 14 billion years that we know off at least this unverise there could be more than one, it's all about the complexity of the components and the vast quantity and time, with infinite computational power someone could create a universe simulator and create something like life has we see it today but somehow the components mainfested themsevles and space already existed long before the big bang started theres just infinite space out there

Satkaryavada - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Sums up my Schopenhauerian influenced Ontology. 'Something out of something' and 'the first moments of the Universe contained its end, therefore, life was fated to spring, therefore, the make up of reality is the exact opposite of random chance as posited by mainstream scientific nihilism, therefore, the idea of God, destiny or an Universal Mind are not irrational'.

In terms of Computer Science and simulating life, I modified the functions that made the cells multiply or die in a Java Game of Conway project to make the matrix of the game circular instead of quadrangular, am I an expert in biological simulacra yet? Haha.

 

[Darkover]

In terms of Computer Science and simulating life, I modified the functions that made the cells multiply or die in a Java Game of Conway project to make the matrix of the game circular instead of quadrangular, am I an expert in biological simulacra yet? Haha.

nice i too write a conway game of life simualtor, no where near being expert in biological simulacra todays computers are just way to slow to do anything real useful with maybe in 50 years when quantum computers take over ill be able to simulate everything ive been dreaming about, i love to be able to simualte a cellular automaton that recreates a biologic cell

 

[whatevs]

nice i too write a conway game of life simualtor, no where near being expert in biological simulacra todays computers are just way to slow to do anything real useful with maybe in 50 years when quantum computers take over ill be able to simulate everything ive been dreaming about, i love to be able to simualte a cellular automaton that recreates a biologic cell

That sounds amazing mate, I would pay to see your project unfold. I think it would help us understand life as a phenomenon too.

 

[Darkover]

That sounds amazing mate, I would pay to see your project unfold. I think it would help us understand life as a phenomenon too.

Self Replication #3

 

[All_is_in_vanity]

If life is inherently evil, then we cannot destroy it, because that would mean there is a higher intelligence. If life is truly evil, then it is all completely hopeless