Discussion Ever known anyone who turned their lives around because of therapy?

[worldexploder]

Personally I haven't. Seems like a revolving door situation. The therapists get richer, and we stay the same.

 

[Made4TV]

Lots of people, actually. And it's helped me quite a bit. But that might come with age - I'm almost 50.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

people with minor or temporary problems


however if youre too deep they will do shit like if youre unemployed, socially isolated and maybe have a chronic illness on top of it its game over

 

[okyeah]

Yeah I'm planning on not seeing my therapist anymore because it is useless. All I do is go in and bitch about my shitty life and he cannot offer any solutions. It's up to me to find a solution. That part always confused me. So basically he is telling me to focus on doing something "meaningful" and pray that my life somehow magically fixes itself? no...no it won't.

 

[SomeGuyDK]

Sure talking to a psychiatrist has helped a lot of people. I heard some study showed there was no significant difference compared to talking to an uneducated counselor. Just talking to someone who listens can have a profound effect. Obviously some people have been fucked so hard by this world, no amount of talking will help. I still feel like psychiatrists/psychologists are con men/women pretending to know stuff based on very shaky science. Truth is we know shit about the human mind.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

Sure talking to a psychiatrist has helped a lot of people. I heard some study showed there was no significant difference compared to talking to an uneducated counselor. Just talking to someone who listens can have a profound effect. Obviously some people have been fucked so hard by this world, no amount of talking will help. I still feel like psychiatrists/psychologists are con men/women pretending to know stuff based on very shaky science. Truth is we know shit about the human mind.

actually studies show that just talking is just as effective to fight depression as taking a sugar pill


more effective was cognitive behaviroal therapie which was just as effective as medication or 30min of sports everyday

 

[SomeGuyDK]

actually studies show that just talking is just as effective to fight depression as taking a sugar pill


more effective was cognitive behaviroal therapie which was just as effective as medication or 30min of sports everyday

That is interesting. I am wondering what the response is from psychiatrists regarding these findings? I can certainly relate to sports being much more effective. Not being able to run at the moment reveals a new low.

 

[Final Escape]

I wouldn't trust any therapists unless u happened to get someone like Jordan B Peterson, or Richard Grannon. Two people on YouTube I have found to be helpful. There's others but I think these people have legitimate advice that can improve your life.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

That is interesting. I am wondering what the response is from psychiatrists regarding these findings? I can certainly relate to sports being much more effective. Not being able to run at the moment reveals a new low.

i will post the source tomorrow

 

[Duqu]

I've seen EMDR work (a trauma-based therapy) for people with single traumas (like being raped once in college or something). I have complex PTSD (C-PTSD) from many years of abuse so while I'm trying it I'm doubtful it can help me.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

I have but they all tend to get better and fall back into depression and get better again etc ( with the depression increasing severity each time it returns) , but I have not seen anyone completely "healed" from depression. It's truly depressing and disheartening to see their struggles.

 

[Deivis]

I don't believe in therapy either. "Believe" is probably a wrong word, but I'm very skeptical of people can change their character, personality (after a certain age, 25+)..

There are some old wife tales about people turning into religious nuts or motivational speakers after a failed attempt. Not sure about that. If you're a little bit fucked up in your head. From my experience - watching other people (both very successful and rock-bottom losers) - your temper, identity (depressive or optimistic) is *forever*.

 

[great-ape99]

One good psychedelic trip is like years of therapy. If you have any questions let me know. I've taken psychedelics quite a bit.

 

[Maravillosa]

I have but they all tend to get better and fall back into depression and get better again etc ( with the depression increasing severity each time it returns) , but I have not seen anyone completely "healed" from depression. It's truly depressing and disheartening to see their struggles.

That is the story of my life

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

That is the story of my life

I am really sorry to hear that. How are you holding up? i am not suggesting anyone take psychotropic drugs but it can benefit sole people in the short term, have you tried it?

 

[Maravillosa]

I am really sorry to hear that. How are you holding up? i am not suggesting anyone take psychotropic drugs but it can benefit sole people in the short term, have you tried it?

I have been taking 450 mg Bupropion XL and 10 mg aripiprazole for several years now. It had been working fairly well, but after my mother became bedridden and I became her caregiver several months ago, the increased stress made it less effective.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

I have been taking 450 mg Bupropion XL and 10 mg aripiprazole for several years now. It had been working fairly well, but after my mother became bedridden and I became her caregiver several months ago, the increased stress made it less effective.

That's completely understandable, anyone would be stressed out by such a daunting task on top of his/her own issues. I don't have any advice but pls do take care and try to have some time to yourself, sending you my hugs.

 

[Maravillosa]

That's completely understandable, anyone would be stressed out by such a daunting task on top of his/her own issues. I don't have any advice but pls do take care and try to have some time to yourself, sending you my hugs.

Thanks for the hugs

 

[livingisloathing]

Therapy definitely helps (not for everyone of course). If one can afford it before choosing to CTB I would definitely recommend it.

 

[WastedPotential]

I guess therapy helps as far as your circumstances allow you to be helped, and as long as you are open to changing your mind about some stuff in your life.

I am not a therapist, but I managed to help a friend give up on the idea of suicide and even get out of depression altogether. All I did was to have conversations with him where I tried to show other possibilities to his life, things that he could try doing to set himself free of some of his problems. In the beginning he couldn't see any alternatives, and he would just come up with obstacles for all my ideas, it was like he wanted me to say "you're right, just fucking go and kill yourself already!", which I couldn't say, not just because I didn't want him to kill himself, but because I genuinely thought he had a much higher chance of being happy than me. In the end our talks helped him to come up with some ideas and gather up the courage to leave everything behind and move to another country, and now I see his pictures and talk to him once in a while and I'm amazed by how much he has changed and how much better he is... The thing is that he always had the means to change his life, he just never thought he could do it. I'm quite happy that I managed to help him with that. (and I wish I had the means to change my life too.)

 

[Halvah]

Personally I haven't. Seems like a revolving door situation. The therapists get richer, and we stay the same.

That's right, no one can really help but yourself, but i'm not able to turn off the desire to die, I mean the desire not to feel pain.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

One good psychedelic trip is like years of therapy. If you have any questions let me know. I've taken psychedelics quite a bit.

what is your experience with mushrooms or lsd?

what is a good starter package?


pm me if you want

 

[Slacker]

Maybe it's just naive to think that one foreign person can change your life and personality to the better forever after you met him a few times?

Demanding such high standards to others but not to yourself is just ... hmmm, let's say a bit unfair isn't it?

I feel sorry for the people who live in a country without healthcare (yes Americans I mean you) so that they can't even afford to see a therapist or get poor by just doing so.

But even with healthcare, it´s not easy to get help. I met a few and talked to therapists in the psychiatry, in a depression center, and in rehab and now I meet a single therapist (first as a private self-paying customer and now paid through healthcare). And it was a long road. And now I finally have someone who I trust, who I like and who really is super friendly to me. But still, my therapist has failures like everyone else... I mean: who can blame her? A crazy person like me LOL? Or you? She is a human being.

Do you expect that therapists are perfect???

I met a lot of people in the last 2 years. And most of them were complaining or whining.
"The rooms are too small, the beds not comfortable, no television, the other patients are crazy and dumb, the therapists are not here but on vacation, they don´t even listen to me, they don´t even try to understand my problems, they are dumb, they just don´t help me with my problems..."
and so on and so on...

I thought that this whining an complaining is a "German thing". But after being here in this forum for a while, I start to realize that this doesn´t depend on where you are from but who you are. There are just people who blame always others for their problems. And I can understand that because a lot of them have a small ego and want to protect it. It is really difficult to assume the responsibility for your own well being when you are depressed. Because some people think that this means to blame yourself... but that´s wrong. These are two different things.

What helps me is my therapy, yes! My therapist helps me, yes! But she helps me to help myself. I have to stand up every morning. I have to live my life. I have to make decisions. I have to think about my problems. I have to take actions. I have to be courageous.
I go to the gym. I meet my family. I try to talk (speak? poor English sorry...) to foreign people despite my anxiety. It´s not easy... but over the years it got easier.

My therapist is a very important person in my life. But not the only one. There are others. And I built up more things in my life that could help me.

But still, think about suicide and make plans on how to end my life, because it often sucks, I´m in pain and I hate so many people.

So: I don´t expect that I will ever have a life without any problems. Maybe your problem is that you can´t stop dreaming your childish and naive dreams!

The life punched you in the face. You are laying on the ground crying and you want to die. You made the first steps and seek help. Now it doesn´t work out for you. Maybe YOU should go to another therapist instead of over-generalize.


I hope that no one feels offended. I wish my English was better. I would like to tell you so much more.
Hope you will find a therapist who fits better with you and your needs.

My therapist is more for me, she´s more like a good friend.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

youre in therapy for years, still on this forum and still in therapy with no end in sight?

@Slacker

 

[Slacker]

with no end in sight?

end of what?

suffering?

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

end of what?

suffering?

therapy

 

[Sayo]

I'm sure there are people here who expect the world from therapists, but many of us are simply demanding honesty from the world about medicalisation. Saying that people on here who complain about therapists expect them to be perfect is a bit of a misrepresentation. Many of the stories on here I have seen about mental health workers are about total malpractice.

I like and respect my current therapist, as she is a useful support to me, but it took a lot of time and money to find her. In my experience, many of the therapists I have seen should not be working in this industry. Maybe they were good once, or they are good with some people, but I was very upfront about the kind of patient I am. My therapy is also being paid by the state. I would not be able to afford it otherwise -- it is a lot to pay for stress relief.

I have always solved my own problems, there are some problems that just objectively do not come from the individual. In my case, not dreaming would probably help, but most people on here don't seem to have unreasonable demands out of life.

 

[Slacker]

therapy

I don´t want to end it. It helps me!

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

I don´t want to end it. It helps me!

if it would help you you wouldnt need it after a short time bc you would be "cured"

 

[Slacker]

but many of us are simply demanding honesty from the world about medicalisation.

I don't understand this. What do you mean by "medicalisation"... wikipedia didn´t help me, could you say it in easier words?
And what do you mean by honesty? What is the truth?

or they are good with some people, ...

And that´s exactly what I wanted to say. Everybody can find his pod. Just concentrate more on searching one than to blame the ones that do not fit you.

My therapy is also being paid by the state. I would not be able to afford it otherwise -- it is a lot to pay for stress relief.

I'm happy for you. May I ask you in which country you live?

but most people on here don't seem to have unreasonable demands out of life.

I don´t really understand what this means. Could you please explain here a bit more, too.