Double suicides

[fightclub17]

I'm not sure what all the legalese are. Ido know it's a sticky situation if one or both survives.

I appreciate your answers, it's a difficult question.

 

[burninghill]

Are there any downsides to double suicides? Legally?

You can't really face legal repercussions if you're dead.

Maybe if one of you mistakenly survives they might question you to rule out things like coercion

Is a 'suicide pact' considered aiding/abetting? I'm sorry for all the questions. There's so many pacts going around on here and genuinely want to know.

if one of you survives and a suicide pact was made, I don't think you'll legally be held liable unless there's evidence of coercion, like I said in my last comment.
I don't think it would be considered any sort of aid or abetting by default, there would have to be some kind of evidence that there was an advantageous power dynamic in place.

This is a guess. I have never survived a double suicide attempt lmao.

 

[fightclub17]

You can't really face legal repercussions if you're dead.

Maybe if one of you mistakenly survives they might question you to rule out things like coercion

if one of you survives and a suicide pact was made, I don't think you'll legally be held liable unless there's evidence of coercion, like I said in my last comment.
I don't think it would be considered any sort of aid or abetting by default, there would have to be some kind of evidence that there was an advantageous power dynamic in place.

This is a guess. I have never survived a double suicide attempt lmao.

Obviously I'm asking in the instance one or both survives.

There was a story here about two people who decided to ctb together via SN. But they made the mistake of staggering the time. One partner was ahead by 20 minutes, so by the time she drank her SN and her body went through the motions, and while the other partner was conforting them, they eventually freaked out and ran out of the hotel room.

I have so many questions regarding this - wouldn't the police go through the deceased's phone and see messages between them? Wouldn't there be finger prints they can find? Wouldn't the other be charged for having the knowledge they wanted to end their life and participate in being present and comforting them? Isn't that considered 'aiding' suicide?

Asking for a friend lol.

 

[dreaming]

I think I'd like that if I ever found someone I felt completely comfortable with who was also wanted to do it.
Which I think would be hard to come by for me.
It would be nice, I don't want to be alone if/when I do it, but it doesn't feel very likely for me.

upon further thought, no, I couldn't do that.
I may want to die in someone else's arms, to feel loved, comforted, and at peace one final time, but to become that comfortable I would have to care for the person deeply, and I don't want someone who I care for to ctb alongside me because of the idea of me doing it with them, even if I hate being alone I'm very familiar with the feeling of loneliness anyway.

tldr I don't want someone I care for to die too bc of my involvement
if anything that's why I've been distancing myself, I want my death(or injury in the event of a failed attempt) to impact those I care for as little as possible.
I think I was just very desensitized to the idea when I said this

 

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[TheKingInBlack]

I'd be honored to take the plunge with someone else. For someone to trust you enough to do something like that with you feels like It would be really sweet and comforting. i've spent my life travelling alone, I'd love to take my last trip with someone special

 

[ForeverYours]

I think it would be nice to like cut my wrists with someone in a bathroom or take something together. It would be nice to have someone to hold while going out

 

[napsterbuscatcher]

i haven't gotten even close to finding a partner, but i am very appealed by having someone doing it with me. i'd love to have the support of someone who understands exactly how i feel in the most important moment of my life. i like the thought of ODing together, getting very high or drunk and simply just falling asleep next to each other. i know it would never be that clean or idyllic, but genuinely that is how i dream of dying. next to someone i love and understand, and who loves and understands me. i know my current partner is and has been suicidal, but has been getting to a much better place and i don't want to shoulder the guilt of dragging them down with me.

 

[Pepper]

My best friend and I had made a pact to go together. I am hopeful one day we can go to Switzerland as we both have physical health issues where there will be no improvement. If not, we have the exit bag and SN, although I'm pretty sure my fat ass is going to have to lose a lot of weight to successfully attempt with SN.
I will admit, six or seven years back I did intervene with his attempt because I could feel it in my gut something was wrong when I was picking up dinner that evening. I don't know if he's moved on from that, but I didn't want his 10 or 11 year old daughter to lose her father just yet. She was a total daddy's girl, and I know she would've been so heartbroken. Things have changed since then, so things would definitely be different now.

 

[uklad38]

I think I'd do this if I had someone in a similar situation. Does this happen often?

 

[Resol]

Last summer, a double suicide happened near where I live, and it was big news here because it's so rare. They were very young girls, which is another reason why it was talked about so much. The case has been bothering me, and since then I've been thinking a lot about it.

Somehow, I think it might feel easier, or give you courage, to do something like that together with someone. It could also bring comfort to share your last moments with a person who understands you and knows how you feel. But at the same time, it feels morally wrong, because there's always the chance that one person pressures the other. Even if both agree voluntarily, it's still very hard to be 100% sure that they both want it equally and that no one is influencing the other.

And if two people do it together, how does it feel to their friends and family? Do they find comfort in the thought that their loved one wasn't alone in their last moments, or do they feel that their loved one was pressured—or perhaps pressured the other person?

What do you all think about this? Do you think it's ever possible to know for sure that both people are equally certain and that it was truly each one's own decision?

 

[InTheAbyss]

Under the right circumstances I'd partner with someone to ctb. If we both wanted it and agreed on everything. Time, location, methods, being comfortable with each other, and all that. But I understand that most won't because of the risks and that it's really hard to find someone that you are comfortable with that's really willing to go through with it and not back out at some point.