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I have the feeling some mentally ill people seem to be raw. I just met this right-wing extreme acquaintance with his very weird views. Women need to be treated bad, they like it and want more. And he told me this way he has "fucked" some of them. I have doubts whether this actually works. And yes sex seems to be cool. But I don't want to be a disgusting human being for it. Ironic because I considered to go to a sex worker and still don't rule it out. I mean if it can save me from committing suicide.

I have the feeling people in pain sometimes go unfiltered. I was in the clinic area and some people just act like complete assholes. And when I listened to the views of my right-wing extremist acquaintance I had to shake my head. At least I am not like him. I wish I could handle poverty as good as him. But I get nursing care money.

When I was in that clinic for people with psychosis and old woman went to all clinics and told antisemitic bullshit. Like Kanye but with a smaller popularity.

People at the bottom, sometimes kick the people below them.

I think in my psyche I define myself with intelligence and I get self-worth by it. I think this is why I can speak openly about my feeling to other people and show myself vulnerable. I think though getting self-worth by that can be pretty toxic because you also look down at someone. I think also watching gore can be immoral. But if one uses it to cope to person one must have a lot of personal issues and judging this person can be a mistake.

I am not sure whether can make a general statement about it. I think sufferring also can increase one's empathy for others. I think poor people have on average higher skills to understand someone else's emotion than rich people. At the same tim one could argue psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists and borderline people can have bad behavior patterns.

But is it really the right choice to blame mentally ill people? It might depend on the person. I watched a reaction video of the Kanye West song WW3. And for random dudes joked about the video, criticized the video for slurs, but called Kanye a genius and ahead of his time. Which is ironic because Kanye is indeed aheead of his time considering growing extremism and antisemitism. (It was not meant like that though) They painted it as something positive. And aren't these people the bigger problem. They are not going through a mental health crisis.
 
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They are all going through a mental health crisis. The problem is that they are not as self-aware as we are. They are acting in an unhealthy manner, and being rewarded for it, thus becoming self-confident.

There are so, so many sick views I almost sank into in my early years because of that. Inceldom, Alpha-Beta bullshit, anti-feminism, racism...all because I was easily manipulated due to my frail mental health.

In a way, people that don't succumb to that are the stronger ones, because they have the courage to be self-aware of their flaws to avoid being caught in traps like these, even if it hurts. Forcing everything one thinks into that filter, so that one doesn't become the thing they abhor.

It's scary to realize how close we are to those we hate, mentally speaking...
 
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I feel like suffering and mental illness has both increased what good I want to do and what bad I am capable of doing. My pain has made me want to lessen others pain as much as possible and do whatever I can to comfort and help others as I don't want others to be in any sort of level of pain I am in but at the same time my pain has made me desperate to escape it sometimes when its at it highest which as lead me to do actions such as threaten murder or cheat.
It's scary to realize how close we are to those we hate, mentally speaking...
yea I am honestly really terrified of this myself with what actions I have committed when at my lowest moments.
 
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I feel like suffering and mental illness has both increased what good I want to do and what bad I am capable of doing. My pain has made me want to lessen others pain as much as possible and do whatever I can to comfort and help others as I don't want others to be in any sort of level of pain I am in but at the same time my pain has made me desperate to escape it sometimes when its at it highest which as lead me to do actions such as threaten murder or cheat.

yea I am honestly really terrified of this myself with what actions I have committed when at my lowest moments.
For someone in mental pain, I'm proud of being able to be somewhat rational even though I literally want to punch and claw people to death sometimes. I'm like a monster that is trying its best to not be, hoping it has some reward in the end.
 
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I'm stupid, sorry. Is your thesis that mentally ill people are less restricted with their speech? Meaning they often go unfiltered about their beliefs?
 
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I'm stupid, sorry. Is your thesis that mentally ill people are less restricted with their speech? Meaning they often go unfiltered about their beliefs?
From what I read on the thread, yes, but not only speech, but also actions and beliefs. Basically, the more mental issues you have, the more harmful thoughts tend to flow freely and need an outlet.

At least that's what I got from it. Anyone feel free to correct me!
 
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From what I read on the thread, yes, but not only speech, but also actions and beliefs. Basically, the more mental issues you have, the more harmful thoughts tend to flow freely and need an outlet.

At least that's what I got from it. Anyone feel free to correct me!
Correct.
 
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I'd like to thank the academy @noname223 for giving me SaSu gold. Thank you kind stranger!🥇
 
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It might depend on the illness. Some are more prone to display the behaviors you mentioned, and others rather not. Like how narcissism is displayed different than depression and social anxiety. But I agree to a certain extent, being mentally ill makes you find ways to cope and find an outlet to it. Some cut themselves, some hate themselves, some put other people down, some act unfiltered, some are more prone to display aggressive behavior and so on.
 
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Forever Sleep

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I just think people are people. However 'good' or 'bad' we are depends on a whole raft of precursors. How did our genes set us up initially? What was our upbringing like? Did we choose to embrace or reject what we were taught? Likely, so many minor experiences throughout life form us into the people we are.

I know relatively normal people who are kind, open. Others who are highly prejudiced and outspoken. It can depend on who we are around and, how much influence they have on us.

I'm not convinced mental illness has all that much to do with it. I suppose it's possible it can change us. I've heard that a person's personality can even change with something as severe as a stroke. I think pain can make us less tolerant in general. So, perhaps the filters come off when we are that ill.

Who can say they only have kind, nice thoughts? I'm prone to prejudiced thoughts myself. Most likely largely due to the sometimes racist, sexist, homophobic crap my Dad sometimes comes out with. Which is actually odd in itself because on a practical level, he's done things that actually fight such discrimination.

But, as a society, both the UK and US are effectively being encouraged to be racist and homophobic at the moment. We're being encouraged to feel threatened by immigrants and trans people for instance. That leads to hatred. It's actually pretty frightening. It must be even more frightening for those who are being targetted. But, even as a person who (possibly) has less mental illness (as far as I'm aware,) I can find it hard not to just be swept along by the flow of hatred.

The people in power are clever. They know we're struggling. They know it will become dangerous if we focus our anger where it belongs- on them. So, they encourage us to blame other groups of people that they vilify. It's not always easy for even clear headed people to realise they are being manipulated when, it is all around.

The most mentally struggling people I have been around have been those suffering with dementia in care homes. I imagine that their illnessses likely amplified what they were like before the illness struck. Those I would think who were racist before became verbally and physically very aggressive and abusive.

I'm not convinced mental illness gives us new ideas that we didn't have before although, it may make it more likely we will latch on to extreme ideas I guess, plus to express them without really thinking about it. I think they sometimes serve as a coping mechanism too. Sadly, fear does and is so often used to motivate us to fight against a perceived injustice or threat. Feeling angry or expressing it may make us feel less weak or insignificant.

I really don't think it's commonly the case though. You think how many members there are here for instance. Some who outright share the mental illnesses they are struggling with. I'd say it's only a small fraction who express extreme and aggressive ideas. An awful lot here are incredibly empathetic. People don't need mental illness to be arseholes, I'm pretty sure. They likely just need to feel entitled.
 
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