Does anyone feel like god is against you or that the world is?

[Chiyumine]

I sometimes fear that some god or someone or something doesn't want me to commit suicide and will try and stop my plans...I know it's silly, but it's a genuine fear I have. I just want to die and be left alone, and not have to worry about what happens next...

 

[kittyloverxd]

I used to think that there was some god that wanted to make my life miserable but then I thought what if the reason why my life is miserable is because there is no god to look over me and take care of me, help me and answer my prayers

 

[Chiyumine]

I used to think that there was some god that wanted to make my life miserable but then I thought what if the reason why my life is miserable is because there is no god to look over me and take care of me, help me and answer my prayers

But what if God is evil and wants us to suffer?

 

[Dr.Duck]

If god is truly good they will know your suffering and shouldn't punish you. I don't think there's any afterlife but if there is that's what my overall belief about it would be.

 

[kitkat9234]

I feel like I have been cursed and God/the Universe/whoever is constantly fucking with me. I see 666 almost daily and other signs too. It's awful.

 

[Chiyumine]

If god is truly good they will know your suffering and shouldn't punish you. I don't think there's any afterlife but if there is that's what my overall belief about it would be.

If god were good, he wouldn't have created us in the first place because humans themselves are an amoral force to that of animals. You could actually argue that god himself is evil for creating life because life itself is evil due it's cruel nature.

I feel like I have been cursed and God/the Universe/whoever is constantly fucking with me. I see 666 almost daily and other signs too. It's awful.

...I feel like I could be next then...I don't want to be next...I don't want to be cursed...

 

[Dr.Duck]

If god were good, he wouldn't have created us in the first place because humans themselves are an amoral force to that of animals. You could actually argue that god himself is evil for creating life because life itself is evil due it's cruel nature.

I know…but sometimes lying to myself makes it easier. Think of it how many animals live in nature that don't get there mind broken. But because of humans that mistreat them their are animals that suffer forever…

 

[kittyloverxd]

But what if God is evil and wants us to suffer?

Well I'm unsure if god is evil or a good person it's hard to say if a person is evil or not as that is more of an opinion but I think suffering isn't entirely a bad thing.. I think if we don't know how to suffer then we'll just take everything for granted and not appreciate it as much, but then again there's just some sufferings I wish people never had to go through such as losing someone close, break ups, parents divorce, abuse, poverty

But let's go a bit more on suffering & poverty

Let's say there are 2 people, 1 who grew up rich, 1 who grew up from poverty

Being born rich sounds awesome but then again there'll be no excitement in your life because you always had everything you wanted, but in the other hand, being born poor sounds miserable but if you do manage to flip the script and somehow make good money, all the time being poor now eventually having money would feel so rewarding

Depending on the context, suffering isn't entirely a bad thing imo

 

[Chiyumine]

but I think suffering isn't entirely a bad thing..

...it is, that's non-negotiable

Depending on the context, suffering isn't entirely a bad thing imo

It is and always will be.

I think if we don't know how to suffer then we'll just take everything for granted and not appreciate it as much

So...why is it like this again...?

Tbh I think you misunderstand the point. If suffering is bad yet is necessary, isn't it still bad regardless? I mean, god had the ability to create us anyway he wanted, and out of all the ways, he chose that way, which, is cruel, because you can't find pleasure in your own life without suffering. If god had simply chosen not to create us, this dilima and our suffering would not exist.

 

[LostZombie]

The belief of god is irrational, there is a reason it's called a faith. Also if there is a god it is not all all powerful or all good. Since god created hell, suffering, greed, all of it created by a creator who wanted to watch creatures suffer. If there is a god they are not kind.

Or the more logical explanation of science, and that you just have a statistically unfavorable life.

Feel free to believe in whatever you want, but rationality is by definition seeking to make the mind more true.

 

[liquid jen]

I personally dont believe in a God, but being excatholic the fear definitely creeps back every once in a while.
I think this is the 2nd time I'm bringing this up here lol, but I had a dream once where I died and met an angel. I asked her why God would create a world so cruel. She said there were 3 reasons, but that I would forget 2 of them when I woke. The only one I remembered was that he enjoys the torture and made us only as playthings.
If there is a god, he is like that.

 

[HangMan123]

...it is, that's non-negotiable
It is and always will be.

No—suffering isn't always a bad thing. Plants blown by strong winds grow sturdier stems, bones under pressure become denser, and muscle tears grow back stronger. Suffering is what makes success meaningful; it's like how we get antibodies after fighting off a disease. You need to experience the bad to appreciate the good.

As per your original question, I'm not religious, so I don't think there's some higher being spectating my boring self and throwing tomatoes on my pathetic life; even if there is one, I'm definitely not worth their time.
And I don't think that the world is against me, either. All of my issues stem from me. I'm the problem.

 

[Chiyumine]

No—suffering isn't always a bad thing. Plants blown by strong winds grow sturdier stems, bones under pressure become denser, and muscle tears grow back stronger. Suffering is what makes success meaningful; it's like how we get antibodies after fighting off a disease. You need to experience the bad to appreciate the good.

Yeah, your full of shit. You don't belong here.

 

[HangMan123]

Yeah, your full of shit. You don't belong here.

Well, you're not wrong. I am pretty constipated. Perhaps I belong in the bathroom?

 

[kittyloverxd]

...it is, that's non-negotiable


It is and always will be.


So...why is it like this again...?

Tbh I think you misunderstand the point. If suffering is bad yet is necessary, isn't it still bad regardless? I mean, god had the ability to create us anyway he wanted, and out of all the ways, he chose that way, which, is cruel, because you can't find pleasure in your own life without suffering. If god had simply chosen not to create us, this dilima and our suffering would not exist.

Well I can understand what you're trying to say but like think of it like this, someone has to suffer through grueling exercises and sticking to to their diet to reach x goal, did they suffer and was it hard for them? Yes they suffered but in the end they kept at it and they reached their goals. Not in all scenarios but there'll be instances when people have to suffer to get a goal

Well I mean humans take everything for granted until it's taken away from them there's no really specific reasoning for why, like here's an example. When you have a fever, sore throat, massive headache you'd be suffering wishing it'd just go away, but once you get all better, the next day you won't even take it for granted that you got all better you'd be like "oh now it's gone i'm just going to go on about my day" and that's like with everything in life..

There maybe a slight misunderstanding (sorry if thats the case), well like I said earlier yes I believe suffering is bad but that depends on the context. I can't speak to much on why god decided to create humans or not as I am not christian so i don't know anything about that

Sorry if there's a misunderstanding between us

 

[Chiyumine]

Well I can understand what you're trying to say but like think of it like this, someone has to suffer through grueling exercises and sticking to to their diet to reach x goal, did they suffer and was it hard for them? Yes they suffered but in the end they kept at it and they reached their goals. Not in all scenarios but there'll be instances when people have to suffer to get a goal

Well I mean humans take everything for granted until it's taken away from them there's no really specific reasoning for why, like here's an example. When you have a fever, sore throat, massive headache you'd be suffering wishing it'd just go away, but once you get all better, the next day you won't even take it for granted that you got all better you'd be like "oh now it's gone i'm just going to go on about my day" and that's like with everything in life..

There maybe a slight misunderstanding (sorry if thats the case), well like I said earlier yes I believe suffering is bad but that depends on the context. I can't speak to much on why god decided to create humans or not as I am not christian so i don't know anything about that

Sorry if there's a misunderstanding between us

It's only like this because god or mother nature made it so, it doesn't mean that it's justified or that it's right. Only under death can salvation be

 

[kittyloverxd]

It's only like this because god or mother nature made it so, it doesn't mean that it's justified or that it's right. Only under death can salvation be

Yup true we're just playing along the system god or mother nature has laid out for us and only time we can stop playing is when our time comes to an end, seems like we finally came to an agreement

Is there any other topics you'd like to talk/debate about that's on your mind?

 

[Chiyumine]

Yup true we're just playing along the system god or mother nature has laid out for us and only time we can stop playing is when our time comes to an end, seems like we finally came to an agreement

Is there any other topics you'd like to talk/debate about that's on your mind?

Hmm...I'd like to know how to die...it would really put me at ease...

 

[YourLocalSadGirly]

Personally I feel similarly but not in terms of god. I feel like I'm trapped in a simulation meant to punish either me in specific (which I acknowledge is unlikely) or all of humanity (seems more likely to me). My reasoning is that the world is so terrible and there's so much suffering that there's no way life is an accident. Someone or something must have designed our reality purposefully and with cruel intent for things to be the way they are. So that's part of the reason I want to ctb is to escape this reality.

 

[Chiyumine]

Personally I feel similarly but not in terms of god. I feel like I'm trapped in a simulation meant to punish either me in specific (which I acknowledge is unlikely) or all of humanity (seems more likely to me). My reasoning is that the world is so terrible and there's so much suffering that there's no way life is an accident. Someone or something must have designed our reality purposefully and with cruel intent for things to be the way they are. So that's part of the reason I want to ctb is to escape this reality.

I feel the EXACT same way! I feel like I'm in a simulation made to make me suffer tbh.

 

[kittyloverxd]

Hmm...I'd like to know how to die...it would really put me at ease...

Well I tried to jump off when I was 12 but I was always afraid of heights (im now 19 and i still am xd) but now i think i'm leaning towards more of hanging myself as it's easy to get a rope or clothes or anything as long as you can find something you can tie it to that can support your bodyweight, have you thought of any methods you'd like to go off with?

 

[Chiyumine]

Hanging. I just need to know how to do it and I'm out!

 

[daysnumbered]

I don't believe in a god like abrahamic religions describe. If there is a god, which is a big if, I believe he/she is just a time keeper or controls the laws of physics. Our suffering is the result of brain chemistry, hormones, and our experience with the world. Humans are just here by chance, and a minimal chance at that. Honestly, when it comes down to it, everything is just space debris that is clumped together. If there is life elsewhere, which could be probable given the vastness of the universe, hopefully they are less tribal and more cooperative and united than the human race.

 

[Msvr]

Well not about ctb specifically, but funny enough I feel the opposite about life in general. Im seriously so lucky. I miss unavoidable car crashes by inches. Do great at work. Yet despite all that I still insist on screwing everything up. If there are 100 methods to do something, and only one of those lead to a negative result, you'd better believe that thats the method I voluntarily choose. And then a lot of times I get bailed out by pure luck. But sometimes I dont either. And those times I dont get bailed out add up. If that all makes sense.

 

[kittyloverxd]

Hanging. I just need to know how to do it and I'm out!

It's not that difficult to make a knot with a shirt the real struggle is finding something that can hold a persons bodyweight

 

[badatparties]

No, there are too many miserable people in my same exact position for me to think I'm anything special. I know we all like to think were special snowflakes, but were not.

That's just how the world is. It makes lot and lots of people miserable and suicidal. If you want to be special, you're going to have to do something note worthy.

 

[PI3.14]

No, I don't believe in a God.

Life only seems against me cus of the sequence of unfortunate events that I've been through, that also started in childhood.

It's just luck, there are many people with the sane level of bad luck, or even worse.

 

[Hime]

Feels like the world is against m. Why is it that every time life "feels good", something terrible happens immediately? It's as if the gods are literally making fun of me lol, finding an optimal path of torturing me while keeping me alive.