does anyone ever worry about reincarnation?

[user_name_here]

It's kind of offensive to throw around such accusations...

im sorry but you do.

maybe re-evaluate how you interact with people on here/what you type.

 

[PrincessInWhite]

I may be the minority but the thought of reincarnation brings me happiness. while I know my life is over afters decades of trying to fix physical and mental health problems that have robbed me of all quality of life, I'm still deeply sad it ended this way. So to know life could continue on without all the shackles that weigh me down now is comforting.

 

[Snake of Eden]

I dont understand why people find reincarnation an alluring concept.

 

[stupidlife666]

I dont understand why people find reincarnation an alluring concept.

Because we dont want to be kept in an endless loop of suffering?

Is it hard to understand?

 

[Snake of Eden]

Because we dont want to be kept in an endless loop of suffering?

Is it hard to

I meant to say why do people seem to think reincarnation is a thing

 

[stupidlife666]

I meant to say why do people seem to think reincarnation is a thing

Like all theories I guess

 

[Chiisai]

I was raised pentecostal christian so I'm afraid of hell, but practiced Buddhism for over a decade so I'm afraid of reincarnation or rebirth too.

I'm also scared of just nothing.

I'm trying to ctb today but these fears are holding me back. I hate being so scared. I don't want to change my mind again & be stuck living this miserable life anymore...

I have practiced both religion too and I feel your fears too so IMHO I just think of life as a sort of RPG game instead and the act of CTBing is just mere restarting or creating a new game for a character with better stats.

I meant to say why do people seem to think reincarnation is a thing

Well there have been some "evidences" of reincarnation or previous life experiences. I do believe in some way it is true.

 

[RIPwednesdayadams]

not at all. i don't believe in god either. i stopped breathing and had NK heartbeat but doctors were eventually able to revive me (unfortunately). "dying" felt like falling into a deep sleep with no dreaming. there was nothing. it was amazing. imagine how pissed i was when i woke up in the hospital later. fucking doctors…

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Survival instinct.

She is mistaking the concept for her fear of death. A lot of users here do the same. They don't understand the true meaning of "Survival Instinct".
Like they honestly believe that whats holding them back is the SI when it's really their fear of dying. But they can't admit that. No. Because that would hurt their ego and sense of "self". Much easier to blame it on something ... like SI.

But it's understandable since it's harder to go past your first understanding of things.

It´s true, the fear of the process of dying and of being dead are two different things. But one can mitigate the fear of the process of dying by choosing a quick and painless method. But I cannot mitigate the fear of being dead, the fear of the unknown, the fear of not existing or the fear of missing something. As we all will die in the rather near future only the fear of missing something is justified and maybe the fear of punishment for suicide.

hi everyone!

so as I near closer and closer to my suicide, i've been worrying a bit about reincarnation. I'm not a religious person, nor do i believe in an omnipotent, caring god. i think, if there really is a god, he/she/they/it is probably sadistic, uncaring and unfeeling. anyway, i sometimes worry that i will kill myself, only to come back to the earth and continue suffering. you know? like, what if death isn't even an escape?? what if there is no escape?? sometimes i think this existence is hell so there has to be something better after this. but other times i wonder if life is just an infinite cycle of suffering that just changes from one genre of suffering to the next.

what do you all think? is death an escape from suffering of is the afterlife a continuation of suffering? or is it neither? i would also love to hear if anyone has had any paranormal experiences that have influenced your beliefs about death/the afterlife.

thank u! :)

45 years ago I read a lot of books about paranormal phenomenons. A lot of scientific research was made at that time often for military purposes. It was impressive how people talked under hypnosis about former lives. I wonder whether parapsychology is still a topic. My impression is that not, but maybe I reed different books now. At least the military seem not to spend money on this topic.

 

[Noctis]

My thought is if reincarnation is real, then I must have reincarnated at least once by now, and I have no memory of it.

So, if it is real, and I kill myself, and get reincarnated, at least I won't be me. Maybe I'll be someone who is happy. Maybe I'll come back as a dog as spoiled as mine.

 

[blueclover_.]

I was raised in a Muslim household. In Islam, they literally say that if you commit suicide you're tortured in the hellfire for eternity with the mode of your suicide. If you shoot yourself, you're made to shoot yourself over and over etc. I thought I wasn't religious but the closer I get to dying the more fearful I am that it is going to be the reality, similar to you, the feeling that we will continue to suffer even though we tried to escape suffering. I think I need to remember that all religions are against suicide, and religious people are those who still have hope. We obviously wish that heaven exists because what a dream but there may be nothing, which is also scary to think about, but I hope whatever there is it is an ease from suffering and not additional torture for those who were tortured in this life, that doesn't seem like kindness from a being that so many look up to.

Hey, fellow ex-muslim here. People in the West have no idea how horrible Islam truly is. People hate whenever ex-muslims speak up because it doesn't fit their agenda that islam is a 'peaceful' religion. I mean all religions are shit but Islam is just on another level. You don't hear about gay people being persecuted in The Vatican City, yet that shit happens all the time in an islamic province of my 'secular' country.

 

[Wayfaerer]

Yes but not the kind of reincarnation people typically mean. Reincarnating as yourself again and living out the exact same life is what terrifies me. The kind of reincarnation that entails pointless, useless, misery and suffering.

 

[Before26]

Hey, fellow ex-muslim here. People in the West have no idea how horrible Islam truly is. People hate whenever ex-muslims speak up because it doesn't fit their agenda that islam is a 'peaceful' religion. I mean all religions are shit but Islam is just on another level. You don't hear about gay people being persecuted in The Vatican City, yet that shit happens all the time in an islamic province of my 'secular' country.

Islam has provided me with intense fear of stepping even one foot out of line and suffering for eternity, from childhood, that's pretty messed up isn't it

 

[blueclover_.]

Islam has provided me with intense fear of stepping even one foot out of line and suffering for eternity, from childhood, that's pretty messed up isn't it

Bruh i literally developed OCD because of it. Praying for 5 times a day, EVERY SINGLE DAY, reading the quran over and over again, until i finally got fed up in rage when i read that surah An-Nisa translation. I didn't ask to be born as a woman yet i'm automatically a dumb baby maker who's inferior to people with dicks because pedophile Muhammad said so in a lot of hadiths. I hate him and if i were alive in his time i would replace the Jewish woman who poisoned him and get killed because of it.

Aisha was 9. Period. Fuck the muslim apologists, they can kill me if they want to, it's not a threat to me. Free suicide, bitches!

 

[wait-for-the-bus]

No I don't

Once we CTB we no longer exist. Our essence has left our bodies and will never exist again.

 

[Wayfaerer]

not at all. i don't believe in god either. i stopped breathing and had NK heartbeat but doctors were eventually able to revive me (unfortunately). "dying" felt like falling into a deep sleep with no dreaming. there was nothing. it was amazing. imagine how pissed i was when i woke up in the hospital later. fucking doctors…

You are thinking too short-term. Imagine you did die and were non-existent in that deep dreamless sleep like you experienced but because you were non-existent and thus not able to experience anything, a quadrillion years pass in an instant. Now imagine within a multiverse that is continually branching out universes all the time eventually get around to making a universe with the starting conditions exactly like the one in this universe. You "wake up" within an instant, no matter how much time passes, at your earliest memories just like in this universe. Everything that has happened "here" will happen "there," literally everything is the same in every way no matter how minute or seemingly insignificant. Every thought or action you've ever made at the same time you made them "here" down to every single water molecule in its time and place. You die and given infinite time it happens again. Over and over. Forever. And this theory is not even factoring in a possible big crunch or eternalism or any other theory where this is possible.

Now, before anyone has a panic attack from this I'm not saying it is necessarily true, just that it could be with the limited knowledge that we have. Believe or not, many people want this to be true and I call them Solipsists as a pejorative because you'd have to be a narcissistic asshole to actually want that.

I'm amazed that despite physics being the center of all existence, most people just brush it off. I guess it's just not very satisfying or sexy enough for average people. If you are worried about hell then try not to be (difficult when fear has been seared into your brain from childhood I know) because unlike Eternal Return (what I described above) I can confidently say that it 100% does not exist and is merely a fear-mongering tactic used by religions to keep people in-line and tethered to the cults. I mean really, mohammad flies into the sky on a white horse? That's just a copy paste of the jesus lie and trying to one up it at the same time. It's all bullshit. Physics does not lie but at the same time, it does not care about your well-being either.

 

[mlha]

Imagine you did die and were non-existent in that deep dreamless sleep like you experienced but because you were non-existent and thus not able to experience anything, a quadrillion years pass in an instant. Now imagine within a multiverse that is continually branching out universes all the time eventually get around to making a universe with the starting conditions exactly like the one in this universe. You "wake up" within an instant

Why I haven't died and woken up this way already?