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I don't think it's possible. I read a PsychologyToday article about the topic. She wrote that childhood abuse is like cancer and it kills people eventually. She referenced a man who was abused and his suicide note talked about a darkness that followed him throughout his life. I feel it too. It eventually killed him.
 
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I don't think people ever recover from anything bad fully.
Like a physical wound it might heal and scar but it is always there, hard to ignore, causing discomfort and for some people pain.
 
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No they don't.
It impairs every part of them. You read about anyone who has suffered from severe mental health issues irrespective of whether they turned out to be an inspiring character or a dreadful one, all of them have in common severe childhood abuse. Childhood sexual abuse is considered worse than the other kinds but at the end of the day it all prevents a person to develop fully. Adult trauma can be severe too but by then you are at a mature mental, emotional level and not fundamentally dependent on anyone.
 
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No they don't.
It impairs every part of them. You read about anyone who has suffered from severe mental health issues irrespective of whether they turned out to be an inspiring character or a dreadful one, all of them have in common severe childhood abuse. Childhood sexual abuse is considered worse than the other kinds but at the end of the day it all prevents a person to develop fully. Adult trauma can be severe too but by then you are at a mature mental, emotional level and not fundamentally dependent on anyone.
Honesty is refreshing.I'm tired of being fed lies by normals who think I can just brush off being fucking tortured as a kid. The audacity of those privileged pieces of shit.

I think accepting the hopelessness of the situation can allow for some growth while at the same time knowing that growth is limited. The expectation that I can be like other people who had normal childhoods has caused me a lot of harm - Stress and disappointment at not measuring up to unrealistic standards.
 
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Honesty is refreshing.I'm tired of being fed lies by normals who think I can just brush off being fucking tortured as a kid. The audacity of those privileged pieces of shit.
I'm in the same boat. Being dragged by my abusers and police and random people because how dare I speak about the horrors I had to go through as a child.
 
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I'm in the same boat. Being dragged by my abusers and police and random people because how dare I speak about the horrors I had to go through as a child.
Read my additional details to the post you just quoted. Respond with your thoughts if you want.

Yeah, no one wants to hear about the horrors of this circus called Life. Let's just look at the funny clown. Point and laugh. Don't look at the curtain that displays the shadows of the animals being whipped in their cages behind the scenes.
 
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I don't think it's possible. I read a PsychologyToday article about the topic. She wrote that childhood abuse is like cancer and it kills people eventually. She referenced a man who was abused and his suicide note talked about a darkness that followed him throughout his life. I feel it too. It eventually killed him.
I don't really think it's possible. In my case, the darkness still looms wherever I go and it grows by the second. People might say that I am young and have a full life ahead, but I didn't know to live or have a life or personality until recently, was mostly a puppet for my parents, with no opinions, only what they say, same with clothes, hairstyle, people I had feelings towards and the sort until I reached a point where I feel so disconnected from being human that I can no longer understand humans, I only pretend to do and know things. That's the extent of what it has done to me.
Sorry, I derailed a lot. In some cases for some people is possible, can't say for certain something is 100% true or false so there must be expectations right? or is it wishful thinking?
 
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I don't really think it's possible. In my case, the darkness still looms wherever I go and it grows by the second. People might say that I am young and have a full life ahead, but I didn't know to live or have a life or personality until recently, was mostly a puppet for my parents, with no opinions, only what they say, same with clothes, hairstyle, people I had feelings towards and the sort until I reached a point where I feel so disconnected from being human that I can no longer understand humans, I only pretend to do and know things. That's the extent of what it has done to me.
Sorry, I derailed a lot. In some cases for some people is possible, can't say for certain something is 100% true or false so there must be expectations right? or is it wishful thinking?
Yeah I'm disconnected from the experience too. This human experiment is incomprehensible and ridiculous to me.
 
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I don't think it's possible. I read a PsychologyToday article about the topic. She wrote that childhood abuse is like cancer and it kills people eventually. She referenced a man who was abused and his suicide note talked about a darkness that followed him throughout his life. I feel it too. It eventually killed him.
so many people just have no fucking clue how bad it is to live with abuse. maybe some people recover but i think they are extremely lucky. i honestly think some people are destined to die from child abuse
 
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so many people just have no fucking clue how bad it is to live with abuse. maybe some people recover but i think they are extremely lucky. i honestly think some people are destined to die from child abuse
It really is a curse.
 
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If you mean recover in the way that people can still be satisfied with their adult life despite experiencing abuse in their childhood I would say yes. But possible doesn't mean that everyone recovers. But some people do. But even the people who recover will always be influenced by the experience in one way or another.
 
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I don't think you can ever fill recover from it. You have the scars forever and there is no way for it to go away. Once the damage is done it can't be undone and living with it can be too much. Whether it's physical, mental, or sexual abuse your young mind is unable to understand what is happening fully and that is carried with you forever.
 
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This is just my personal experience and mine alone, but I have only gotten worse and worse as I aged. The effects of childhood abuse and neglect have scarred me for life, and often times the abuse suffered during childhood primes you for more struggle later down the line- especially when it comes to opening the door towards more abusive relationships in adulthood.

For me, it isn't just the memories that haunt me, nor the nightmares of being screamed at and insulted by my family daily, or twisted reanctments of the sexual abuse I suffered at the hands of others, it's the downstream consequences of the abuse that impact every aspect of your life, the things you can't run away from or ignore.

Not only are you socialized differently if you were abused as a child- often being afraid to stand up for yourself, to speak up, and having difficulty forming and maintaining relationships, but it tends to impact one's socio-economic standing as well.

I constantly have to live with the knowledge that I have no childhood friends, no family, no safety net, and no prospects because you've spent your entire life being beaten down, groomed, or alone. Other people take their families and connections for granted, and you become well aware that you do not have that luxury if your family neglected or abused you.

I was born to an absent mother that didn't want me/couldn't take care of me and an alcoholic father who died when I was young. The only memories I have of my father are when he would get absurdly drunk and act out, it took me so long not to jump at the sight of a gun because when I was a little child my father pulled a gun on us while drunk and said he was going to blow his brains out then and there. Others cannot fathom witnessing a scene like this in early childhood.

I have never known the love of a mother or father, and that irreparably screws up the development of a young mind. You feel no sense of security and stability, you're afraid to express your needs, you lack confidence, and you stumble through life without purpose because there is no one there to guide you. When all your other family members do is berate you, you grow up feeling like no one in the world is on your side, and as an adult it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy because everyone shuns the developmentally stunted child once they become a haphazard, broken adult.

Sexual abuse is a whole other beast as well, I cannot even begin to describe how it feels, but if you've been through it, you'll know how it warps you as a person, your preferences, and your ability to have relationships. There's always a fear that other people are going to hurt you and take advantage of you again, and when innocuous touch feels violating, others grow volatile and angry, insisting you grow up and get over it.

Having spent years and years in the mental health system, and studying brain development, I can safely say that not even "experts" know how to deal with the aftermath of childhood trauma. People expect you to simply get over it and fix yourself, but sometimes this just isn't possible. It's like telling someone with a pile of sticks at their disposal to build a mansion.

I have known many other people who have went through CSA as well as other forms of childhood neglect and abuse, and they constantly get tossed from useless therapist to therapist or on the pill mill with no reprieve, while the mental health staff claim they're just not trying hard enough to process their trauma or some other bootstrapper logic.

Many of us go on to develop chronic health conditions as well and get treated like we are fakers and that it's all a manifestation of victims not dealing with their trauma efficiently. It feels like when you've been through this sort of nightmare the hell never ends even when you become an adult because others will continue to cast blame on you for being unable to move past the horrors.

Didn't mean to go on a huge rant about myself here, but I'm so tired and worn out, I can't take it anymore and I can't withstand the way the media and mainstream psychology talks about trauma as if it's a temporary booboo that can ALWAYS be fixed. Sometimes, it is a death sentence. Being traumatized as a child is what is inevitably going to bury me.
 
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This is just my personal experience and mine alone, but I have only gotten worse and worse as I aged. The effects of childhood abuse and neglect have scarred me for life, and often times the abuse suffered during childhood primes you for more struggle later down the line- especially when it comes to opening the door towards more abusive relationships in adulthood.

For me, it isn't just the memories that haunt me, nor the nightmares of being screamed at and insulted by my family daily, or twisted reanctments of the sexual abuse I suffered at the hands of others, it's the downstream consequences of the abuse that impact every aspect of your life, the things you can't run away from or ignore.

Not only are you socialized differently if you were abused as a child- often being afraid to stand up for yourself, to speak up, and having difficulty forming and maintaining relationships, but it tends to impact one's socio-economic standing as well.

I constantly have to live with the knowledge that I have no childhood friends, no family, no safety net, and no prospects because you've spent your entire life being beaten down, groomed, or alone. Other people take their families and connections for granted, and you become well aware that you do not have that luxury if your family neglected or abused you.

I was born to an absent mother that didn't want me/couldn't take care of me and an alcoholic father who died when I was young. The only memories I have of my father are when he would get absurdly drunk and act out, it took me so long not to jump at the sight of a gun because when I was a little child my father pulled a gun on us while drunk and said he was going to blow his brains out then and there. Others cannot fathom witnessing a scene like this in early childhood.

I have never known the love of a mother or father, and that irreparably screws up the development of a young mind. You feel no sense of security and stability, you're afraid to express your needs, you lack confidence, and you stumble through life without purpose because there is no one there to guide you. When all your other family members do is berate you, you grow up feeling like no one in the world is on your side, and as an adult it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy because everyone shuns the developmentally stunted child once they become a haphazard, broken adult.

Sexual abuse is a whole other beast as well, I cannot even begin to describe how it feels, but if you've been through it, you'll know how it warps you as a person, your preferences, and your ability to have relationships. There's always a fear that other people are going to hurt you and take advantage of you again, and when innocuous touch feels violating, others grow volatile and angry, insisting you grow up and get over it.

Having spent years and years in the mental health system, and studying brain development, I can safely say that not even "experts" know how to deal with the aftermath of childhood trauma. People expect you to simply get over it and fix yourself, but sometimes this just isn't possible. It's like telling someone with a pile of sticks at their disposal to build a mansion.

I have known many other people who have went through CSA as well as other forms of childhood neglect and abuse, and they constantly get tossed from useless therapist to therapist or on the pill mill with no reprieve, while the mental health staff claim they're just not trying hard enough to process their trauma or some other bootstrapper logic.

Many of us go on to develop chronic health conditions as well and get treated like we are fakers and that it's all a manifestation of victims not dealing with their trauma efficiently. It feels like when you've been through this sort of nightmare the hell never ends even when you become an adult because others will continue to cast blame on you for being unable to move past the horrors.

Didn't mean to go on a huge rant about myself here, but I'm so tired and worn out, I can't take it anymore and I can't withstand the way the media and mainstream psychology talks about trauma as if it's a temporary booboo that can ALWAYS be fixed. Sometimes, it is a death sentence. Being traumatized as a child is what is inevitably going to bury me.
Yeah it's our cancer as well as whatever other cancers we get. I've had two pre-cancers in the past few years. My body is trying to kill me
 
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Yeah it's our cancer as well as whatever other cancers we get. I've had two pre-cancers in the past few years. My body is trying to kill me
I'm really sorry to hear that, dealing with those kinds of health problems is so awful. While mine weren't cancerous and specific cancer markers were flagged as fine, I was eat up with a bunch of tumors and had to undergo surgery to remove all of them last year. I almost got a blood infection and sepsis from this whole ordeal. The surgeon told me it is likely I will have more of them in the future too. I was only 23 at that time and already have so many chronic health problems as it is, so I don't really want to imagine what other awful health issues are in store for me if I live into middle and old age. Chronic stress and trauma really mess with your immune system and make you susceptible to things like cancer, which makes the fact that people dont take it seriously even crueler.
 
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I'm really sorry to hear that, dealing with those kinds of health problems is so awful. While mine weren't cancerous and specific cancer markers were flagged as fine, I was eat up with a bunch of tumors and had to undergo surgery to remove all of them last year. I almost got a blood infection and sepsis from this whole ordeal. The surgeon told me it is likely I will have more of them in the future too. I was only 23 at that time and already have so many chronic health problems as it is, so I don't really want to imagine what other awful health issues are in store for me if I live into middle and old age. Chronic stress and trauma really mess with your immune system and make you susceptible to things like cancer, which makes the fact that people dont take it seriously even crueler.
Yeah our lives are punishment it seems
 
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To be honest, no. Even if I have forgiven my abuser, up to now at age 57, I'm still suffering from the damage done to me. Didn't fully recover. Broke my spirit early. Its like mk ultra.
 
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To be honest, no. Even if I have forgiven my abuser, up to now at age 57, I'm still suffering from the damage done to me. Didn't fully recover. Broke my spirit early. Its like mk ultra.
I've been fed that "forgive your abuser" bs. I've technically done it, but I've learned it's not a one time thing and also it doesn't undo anything. I never felt a weight lifted or any sense of rapture.
 
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I've been fed that "forgive your abuser" bs. I've technically done it, but I've learned it's not a one time thing and also it doesn't undo anything. I never felt a weight lifted or any sense of rapture.
It helped me to stop reliving the abuse in my mind. It was a very heavy burden asides from the damage.
 
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It helped me to stop reliving the abuse in my mind. It was a very heavy burden asides from the damage.
Why haven't I felt relief from doing the forgiveness thing? Technically it wasnt my parent's fault. Mental illness was the fiend.
 
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Why haven't I felt relief from doing the forgiveness thing? Technically it wasnt my parent's fault. Mental illness was the fiend.
Well its not the same for everybody. It isn't a one size fits all solution. I was 30+ that time when I had to take care of my dad so maturity, maybe being tired of replaying everything in my mind, being sorry for his state and mine etc helped me to let go of the bitterness. Its just that up to now, the abuse stunted my development as a person, that can't be denied and is a consequence
 
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Well its not the same for everybody. It isn't a one size fits all solution. I was 30+ that time when I had to take care of my dad so maturity, maybe being tired of replaying everything in my mind, being sorry for his state and mine etc helped me to let go of the bitterness. Its just that up to now, the abuse stunted my development as a person, that can't be denied and is a consequence
In what ways are you stunted?
 
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In what ways are you stunted?
My spirit was broken. It was so hard for me to overcome adversity/negativity since my father made sure I couldn't escape his cruelty and I was a kid. Made me pessimistic, withdrawn, introverted since I wasn't allowed social contact, not even the escape of TV. There is more but I guess I'm not up to it now..it was very restrictive and the beatings uggh
 
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I don't think it's possible. I read a PsychologyToday article about the topic. She wrote that childhood abuse is like cancer and it kills people eventually. She referenced a man who was abused and his suicide note talked about a darkness that followed him throughout his life. I feel it too. It eventually killed him.
Not 100% but you are of course right. I think in the right (healing) circumstances, with the right people you can heal from almost any trauma. The problem resides in actually experiencing those circumstances, having acces to them. And most of the time the ones who experience some shit in their life, will continue to do so because of a lot of factors. It's like a snowball that keeps rolling and getting bigger and bigger.

So theoretically I think it's absolutely possible, but practically it's kinda improbable.

We could go further and say that if you start life on the right foot, chances are you'll keep stepping on that good track. If you had a shitty start, full of abuse and neglect, well, you'd better prepare for things to get more fucked the older you get.

I think trauma is pretty decisive in one's life.
Speaking from my experience and what I've heard.
Honesty is refreshing.I'm tired of being fed lies by normals who think I can just brush off being fucking tortured as a kid. The audacity of those privileged pieces of shit.

I think accepting the hopelessness of the situation can allow for some growth while at the same time knowing that growth is limited. The expectation that I can be like other people who had normal childhoods has caused me a lot of harm - Stress and disappointment at not measuring up to unrealistic standards.
Oh right you are!
 
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Not really. I won't ever experience life as if I was never abused. It follows me around everywhere. It's in my dreams. It's the panic I feel whenever someone touches me or even looks at me. I'm slowly dying, not recovering. Doesn't matter how much therapy I do.
 
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I don't really think it's possible. In my case, the darkness still looms wherever I go and it grows by the second. People might say that I am young and have a full life ahead, but I didn't know to live or have a life or personality until recently, was mostly a puppet for my parents, with no opinions, only what they say, same with clothes, hairstyle, people I had feelings towards and the sort until I reached a point where I feel so disconnected from being human that I can no longer understand humans, I only pretend to do and know things. That's the extent of what it has done to me.
Sorry, I derailed a lot. In some cases for some people is possible, can't say for certain something is 100% true or false so there must be expectations right? or is it wishful thinking?
I was exactly the same some years ago. Just a puppet, a pet. I realise I still am in some ways, but I change what I see and can change 🤗
Yeah I'm disconnected from the experience too. This human experiment is incomprehensible and ridiculous to me.
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so many people just have no fucking clue how bad it is to live with abuse. maybe some people recover but i think they are extremely lucky. i honestly think some people are destined to die from child abuse
The majority of them can't even imagine that you can expirience something like this. Not even in thei worst nightmares.
I don't think you can ever fill recover from it. You have the scars forever and there is no way for it to go away. Once the damage is done it can't be undone and living with it can be too much. Whether it's physical, mental, or sexual abuse your young mind is unable to understand what is happening fully and that is carried with you forever.
I tend to think it's true. Though I really hope it's not
 
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You don't.
 
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I'm really sorry to hear that, dealing with those kinds of health problems is so awful. While mine weren't cancerous and specific cancer markers were flagged as fine, I was eat up with a bunch of tumors and had to undergo surgery to remove all of them last year. I almost got a blood infection and sepsis from this whole ordeal. The surgeon told me it is likely I will have more of them in the future too. I was only 23 at that time and already have so many chronic health problems as it is, so I don't really want to imagine what other awful health issues are in store for me if I live into middle and old age. Chronic stress and trauma really mess with your immune system and make you susceptible to things like cancer, which makes the fact that people dont take it seriously even crueler.
Let's not forget all the chronic fatigue you experience from all of that cortisol and adrenaline flooding your system almost all day long.
Why haven't I felt relief from doing the forgiveness thing? Technically it wasnt my parent's fault. Mental illness was the fiend.
It's kinda been the same for me.
 
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I think there are ways to get over it enough to live a "normal" life, but I don't think you can ever fully recover
 
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