Do you think it’s in someone’s right to take their own life?

[estella~]

My body my choice. My money my choice. Why care about whether someone wants to be a stripper? Because it's their life. Don't we have the autonomy to do whatever we want with our own lives?

 

[soonnotkoei]

dont have the time right now to write a longer comment so in short:
yes.

 

[estella~]

dont have the time right now to write a longer comment so in short:
yes.

Then why do people take away this right when you're "not in your right mind"?

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Then why do people take away this right when you're "not in your right mind"?

Cause they want you alive to be able to feed the system. The current cultural medium relies on living people to survive. Capitalism only works if it always grows.

So in short. You're alive so people can profit off you. Dead people don't consume.

 

[moonflow3r]

yes

 

[EmptyBottle]

Technically, a person is autonomous enough to do what they wish to themselves.

Tho CTB can transfer the pain of death to others who (probably) don't deserve such pain.

 

[Ijustcantanymore]

Last i checked I was no one's property. The government may think they have the right to legislate our bodies but they actually don't have any such right. It's a power they have forcefully taken. And we shouldn't stand for it anymore.

 

[estella~]

Technically, a person is autonomous enough to do what they wish to themselves.

Tho CTB can transfer the pain of death to others who (probably) don't deserve such pain.

I see the acronym CTB all the time and I still don't know what it means. Are we not allowed to say what it is? How do I find out

 

[EmptyBottle]

I see the acronym CTB all the time and I still don't know what it means. Are we not allowed to say what it is? How do I find out

CTB = Catch the bus... or to destroy oneself intentionally... we can say the full word, but I prefer the acronym

 

[Ijustcantanymore]

Technically, a person is autonomous enough to do what they wish to themselves.

Tho CTB can transfer the pain of death to others who (probably) don't deserve such pain.

And no one is under any obligation to light themselves on fire to keep anyone else warm.

To demand one suffer for the sake of others is imo. To no longer be a human or person. You're just a selfish thing.

Life is painful. That's what these people tell us who want to leave all the fucking time. That it's pain and unfair but suddenly we are expected to continue existing in agony so that they get to avoid life pain?

Fuck that.

 

[Hollowman]

Hell yes it is.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

CTB = Catch the bus... or to destroy oneself intentionally... we can say the full word, but I prefer the acronym

I always thought it was Cease To Be! Oh man...

 

[EmptyBottle]

I always thought it was Cease To Be! Oh man...

that could be another interpretation... "cease to breathe" is a 3rd possible interpretation.

 

[Forveleth]

Then why do people take away this right when you're "not in your right mind"?

The 1% can not live off the 99% if we are dead. They force life on us under the guise of "caring".

 

[EmptyBottle]

And no one is under any obligation to light themselves on fire to keep anyone else warm.

To demand one suffer for the sake of others is imo. To no longer be a human or person. You're just a selfish thing.

Life is painful. That's what these people tell us who want to leave all the fucking time. That it's pain and unfair but suddenly we are expected to continue existing in agony so that they get to avoid life pain?

Fuck that.

True, no one should have to suffer to keep others from suffering. I'm just mentioning that in terms of ethics, CTB can sometimes be unethical. Forced life can be just as unethical too. At least physics will ensure life is finite, whether biological systems fail, the sun overheats the Earth eventually, or accidents and other events cause death.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Technically, a person is autonomous enough to do what they wish to themselves.

Tho CTB can transfer the pain of death to others who (probably) don't deserve such pain.

Don't tell people what to do with their lives if you're not willing to make them worth living.

Maybe those who don't wish to experience pain from others dying should do something about it other than forcing them to live. (Not trying to sound harsh. Just what I believe on.)

 

[EmptyBottle]

Don't tell people what to do with their lives if you're not willing to make them worth living.

Maybe those who don't wish to experience pain from others dying should do something about it other than forcing them to live. (Not trying to sound harsh. Just what I believe on.)

Excellent point. It would be awesome for people to help each other feel better, vs do the opposite. (This also applies to the non-suicidal people fighting each other too)

 

[LastNite]

Is it right for the world to act unfairly towards a person? If the answer is no, then the answer to your question is yes. Someone doesn't have to bear the brutal and harshness of this world if they don't want to.

Take me for example, there's nothing in the future for me or in the present. I got no job, no friends, no hobbies, and no life. I barely step outside other than for appointments. I failed school as well and I'm terribly awkward when it comes to socializing. I've gotten bullied by other kids at school and beaten by my father as a kid.
I've also never had a relationship with anyone. The only thing I like about life is how beautiful it is when there's nice people and nice places around you but that isn't always the case.

My religious parents tell me it is wrong for me to take my own life, but that opinion is influenced by religion and selfishness. Their supposed God which I'd bet was just some random man writing fantasy books. Lived the best life he could ever have by lying to people so they support him with money and all there is to life.
Nobody lives your life and nobody will ever know how you truly feel. They never went what you went through so their opinions don't matter.
Make your own decisions on whether you'd want to stay or not.

 

[bananaolympus]

100% a person has the right to end their life even if is not suicidal

 

[J&L383]

dont have the time right now to write a longer comment so in short:
yes.

Absolutely unequivocally without a doubt, YES!

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yes, we should have that right- I believe.

The practicalities can be more complicated though. Should we live in a way that least harms others? Obviously, we ought to make the effort to do that and, to not deliberately harm others. That's where suicide does become complicared because, it does tend to deeply affect others.

I guess there are multiple ways to look at that. Either insist they not get so upset about it but then- we want our pain recognised- so- we ought to recognise the possibility of theirs.

I do think if the subject of suicide was less taboo to discuss, we could perhaps be able to give loved ones more time to adjust and accept the decision. As a society, if it was more accepted, I think we would all have to adjust. Just the same as we have to adjust to natural death. We simply have to accept it.

Of course, the counter argument in our favour is that it's unreasonable to expect us to live in pain/ discomfort/ suffering. By doing that- those who keep us here are keeping us trapped in that pain. That's surely a cruel thing to do as well.

There's also the anti-natilist argument that it was unreasonable to bring us here in the first place, expose us to such huge risk. Then, when it has gone terribly wrong, insist that we stay here. That surely isn't fair either. It can't really be the action of a person that loves us either. (Although, in part I suspect it is a thought process based on an idea that our problems can be solved and, we can recover to live a reasonable life.)

I just think it's complicated. It's more like a 'yes... but have you considered...' But to my mind- that ought to happen just as much before would- be parents decide to bring life here. Yes you can, but have you considered what risks you will be exposing that child to? Including the risk that they may struggle so much in life, they decide to end it. Are you prepared to witness that and experience it? I'm guessing it would be a 'no' for most- which is why they do all they can to prevent it.

 

[idontwanttosuffer]

I'm not getting into political or philosophical side of things as it doesn't interests me anymore. But yes you can do whatever you want with your own life.

As long as it's just your life. Then absolutely. If it's affecting other persons life. Then no. If it's just CTB and not some other things like which I've read a few days ago, then you can do as per your wishes.

 

[hereornot]

Sure

 

[Apathy79]

Then why do people take away this right when you're "not in your right mind"?

In euthanasia circles this is called informed consent. It has a sound basis in that people will do very rash things when in temporary pain, or coerced, or high on meth, or a young teenager breaking up with a partner, whatever the case may be. We don't want them to have the option to sign a binding agreement to end their life in that temporary state where the same decision wouldn't be made out of it. But informed consent is weaponised in euthanasia circles to include a huge swathe of mental illnesses, often even going as far as to say suicidal ideation itself is evidence of unsound mind and therefore informed consent cannot be given. I think that's a gross interpretation of an otherwise useful principle. I also think in relation to children particularly, they don't yet have the capacity to make that decision. So I do think being of sound mind should be required, and there are cases like I discussed where I don't think suicidal people would pass that test for good reason, much like why we don't allow children to drink alcohol even if they want to and can afford to, but the current interpretation of it is massively skewed toward not allowing too many people to do it on that basis.

 

[darksouls]

My body my choice. My money my choice. Why care about whether someone wants to be a stripper? Because it's their life. Don't we have the autonomy to do whatever we want with our own lives?

yes I think so
but when you have children you have responsibilities
it depends on the circumstances

 

[polm]

Yes

 

[LigottiIsRight]

Absolutely yes. I could elaborate, but I doubt I'd say something that hasn't been said in here before.

 

[Alexandra0]

Without a doubt

 

[LastDayOnEarth]

Yes cause we didn't ask for our circumstances or problems

We should have a damm say on whether we live or die

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I don't think it, I know it.
Different things.