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Do you ever hear really high pitched frequencies/hissing like sounds in the psych ward? Particularly when you are in your room?

A few years ago I was talking to another patient who was labeled as "Schizophrenic" by the staff on the higher acuity ward.

I put that in quotations because I do not share the same opinion as Western Medicine about the experience of psychosis.

He talked about how he could see through the walls and see the energetic grid that coats the hospital.

I was on so many meds that I couldn't make out what he was describing, but I was extremely curious, because everything he described honestly made a lot of sense.

I have been in the psych ward too many times to count, and I have seen a lot of curious happenings with the "staff" and "treatment team". Psychological warfare.

These psych wards are ran like the hospital talked about in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" book & movie. The amount of manipulation, on the cognitive and energetic level, and how it controls the patients… it is very real.

If you have not experienced/noticed that yourself, please keep an open mind. I am not trying to scare anyone, but I am just talking about this to raise awareness so we can guard ourselves and remain cautious.

It is these last few years since I have taken myself off all the psychotropics and refuse them that I can FEEL that grid. It comes on like a smog that you don't even realize you are in. Especially if they medicate you. Which is often used as punishment which is extremely barbaric.

How they can control someone's basic autonomy and turn them into a shell of themselves… all the while patting themselves on the back for being "such a service to their community"….

I usually never leave my room when I am there since I do not want to be around those charlatans (staff). I do not trust them and have had so many problems with them in the past that it takes great restraint out of me not to freak out on them.

But when I am in my room, that buzzing/hissing resonance is CONSTANTLY on. I even confronted a nurse about it, asking if she could hear it, and she said it was probably just construction outside. Which is peculiar considering the hissing takes NO BREAKS, even momentarily, it is constant, and goes on into the night. So I was straight up lied to. Those staff know the game. They know the reality behind the little guise they try to pull over our eyes.

Has anyone else become aware of this grid? This is psychological warfare. If you don't understand, try to keep an open mind and be aware. The fog I speak of is thick, and I notice it only lifts when I finally leave the facility. It's like I can finally take a deep breath of air.

Anyone else experience this or have experiences like this? I know I am not the only one targeted. We all are. And they make a good profit off of doing so.
 
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Do you ever hear really high pitched frequencies/hissing like sounds in the psych ward? Particularly when you are in your room?

A few years ago I was talking to another patient who was labeled as "Schizophrenic" by the staff on the higher acuity ward.

I put that in quotations because I do not share the same opinion as Western Medicine about the experience of psychosis.

He talked about how he could see through the walls and see the energetic grid that coats the hospital.

I was on so many meds that I couldn't make out what he was describing, but I was extremely curious, because everything he described honestly made a lot of sense.

I have been in the psych ward too many times to count, and I have seen a lot of curious happenings with the "staff" and "treatment team". Psychological warfare.

These psych wards are ran like the hospital talked about in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" book & movie. The amount of manipulation, on the cognitive and energetic level, and how it controls the patients… it is very real.

If you have not experienced/noticed that yourself, please keep an open mind. I am not trying to scare anyone, but I am just talking about this to raise awareness so we can guard ourselves and remain cautious.

It is these last few years since I have taken myself off all the psychotropics and refuse them that I can FEEL that grid. It comes on like a smog that you don't even realize you are in. Especially if they medicate you. Which is often used as punishment which is extremely barbaric.

How they can control someone's basic autonomy and turn them into a shell of themselves… all the while patting themselves on the back for being "such a service to their community"….

I usually never leave my room when I am there since I do not want to be around those charlatans (staff). I do not trust them and have had so many problems with them in the past that it takes great restraint out of me not to freak out on them.

But when I am in my room, that buzzing/hissing resonance is CONSTANTLY on. I even confronted a nurse about it, asking if she could hear it, and she said it was probably just construction outside. Which is peculiar considering the hissing takes NO BREAKS, even momentarily, it is constant, and goes on into the night. So I was straight up lied to. Those staff know the game. They know the reality behind the little guise they try to pull over our eyes.

Has anyone else become aware of this grid? This is psychological warfare. If you don't understand, try to keep an open mind and be aware. The fog I speak of is thick, and I notice it only lifts when I finally leave the facility. It's like I can finally take a deep breath of air.

Anyone else experience this or have experiences like this? I know I am not the only one targeted. We all are. And they make a good profit off of doing so.
Sometimes electrical wiring and outlets can lead to a certain type of noise, and only some people notice it. The same is true of lights. Also, people as they get older lose hearing.

So a low frequency sound that also had a little peaks of noise at 18000 Hz would be super annoying to someone who is 19, but someone who is 50 who is a nurse interacting with them might not notice it at all.

As for "the grid," clearly that's extreme psychosis, or if there is a secret grid that scientists can't measure, it would mean all scientific observation is flawed, in which case nothing could be predicted or measured. It seems likely there is no grid/psychological warfare and you were both psychotic.

Mental asylums are genuinely horrible evil places, and sometimes I feel like saying things like this (ie, "there was an evil energy controlling us all there and that's why it's bad") detracts from the actual psychological abuse, cruelty, and financial exploitation of those places. It's like tricking people into thinking criticism of psychiatry and mental health hospitals is crazy, when in fact criticism of those things is actually valid.
 
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Everytime ive been to the psych ward I'm able to hear the lights/electricity, its super annoying. This happens to me in other parts of the hospital as well as outside of it, but the LEDs they have are particularly loud imo. ive talked to a few other folks about this and many of them are bothered by it too. As the comment above said, its not uncommon for people to hear electricity, i think it becomes even more noticable while in the hospital because there is generally less to distract you. This is just my experience though.
 
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In the psych ward I was in, the light was making a weird glare off the window, it flickered and was buzzing. I kept complaining but I couldn't have curtains and they said I was "just sensitive to light from the gas" after my failed attempt. But I still think they were wrong lol there was something fucked up with that light

Also, they fully manipulated me at the hospital and I lost my shit over it. After a few days the psychiatrist finally started listening to me and apologized for how the staff had tried to handle me. But it was after days of me refusing to communicate with them because I was pretty triggered by their manipulative tactics. Idk I think there are some weird things happening there but no idea about any grid hahah
Do you ever hear really high pitched frequencies/hissing like sounds in the psych ward? Particularly when you are in your room?

A few years ago I was talking to another patient who was labeled as "Schizophrenic" by the staff on the higher acuity ward.

I put that in quotations because I do not share the same opinion as Western Medicine about the experience of psychosis.

He talked about how he could see through the walls and see the energetic grid that coats the hospital.

I was on so many meds that I couldn't make out what he was describing, but I was extremely curious, because everything he described honestly made a lot of sense.

I have been in the psych ward too many times to count, and I have seen a lot of curious happenings with the "staff" and "treatment team". Psychological warfare.

These psych wards are ran like the hospital talked about in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" book & movie. The amount of manipulation, on the cognitive and energetic level, and how it controls the patients… it is very real.

If you have not experienced/noticed that yourself, please keep an open mind. I am not trying to scare anyone, but I am just talking about this to raise awareness so we can guard ourselves and remain cautious.

It is these last few years since I have taken myself off all the psychotropics and refuse them that I can FEEL that grid. It comes on like a smog that you don't even realize you are in. Especially if they medicate you. Which is often used as punishment which is extremely barbaric.

How they can control someone's basic autonomy and turn them into a shell of themselves… all the while patting themselves on the back for being "such a service to their community"….

I usually never leave my room when I am there since I do not want to be around those charlatans (staff). I do not trust them and have had so many problems with them in the past that it takes great restraint out of me not to freak out on them.

But when I am in my room, that buzzing/hissing resonance is CONSTANTLY on. I even confronted a nurse about it, asking if she could hear it, and she said it was probably just construction outside. Which is peculiar considering the hissing takes NO BREAKS, even momentarily, it is constant, and goes on into the night. So I was straight up lied to. Those staff know the game. They know the reality behind the little guise they try to pull over our eyes.

Has anyone else become aware of this grid? This is psychological warfare. If you don't understand, try to keep an open mind and be aware. The fog I speak of is thick, and I notice it only lifts when I finally leave the facility. It's like I can finally take a deep breath of air.

Anyone else experience this or have experiences like this? I know I am not the only one targeted. We all are. And they make a good profit off of doing so.
Ps- I never met even one staff I trusted at the psych ward. Actually, I met a guy who was schizophrenic and had idk done some crazy shit and he only would come out of his room to get food and sit by his door sometimes and I'd go talk to him there. He was the only person I trusted there and he was admittedly unstable still even according to him. So …
 
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I never been to a psych ward but I have heard high pitch sound but I just see it as Tinnitus
 
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Sometimes electrical wiring and outlets can lead to a certain type of noise, and only some people notice it. The same is true of lights. Also, people as they get older lose hearing.

So a low frequency sound that also had a little peaks of noise at 18000 Hz would be super annoying to someone who is 19, but someone who is 50 who is a nurse interacting with them might not notice it at all.

As for "the grid," clearly that's extreme psychosis, or if there is a secret grid that scientists can't measure, it would mean all scientific observation is flawed, in which case nothing could be predicted or measured. It seems likely there is no grid/psychological warfare and you were both psychotic.

Mental asylums are genuinely horrible evil places, and sometimes I feel like saying things like this (ie, "there was an evil energy controlling us all there and that's why it's bad") detracts from the actual psychological abuse, cruelty, and financial exploitation of those places. It's like tricking people into thinking criticism of psychiatry and mental health hospitals is crazy, when in fact criticism of those things is actually valid.
I appreciate your perspective. I do agree about being sensitive to the wiring and lighting, I think that could definitely be a possibility since they insist on having fluorescent lighting everywhere you go despite people being sensitive to it, and it is an old building where this certain hospital is.

I personally have different views about psychosis. I am not surprised I got that reply, I was prepared for something like that. I will keep an open mind, although I personally do not see psychosis the same way as standard beliefs in the west.

I resonate more with it being a spiritual illness that is being completely misinterpreted and suppressed by western medicine.

I can see why you jump to that conclusion though as western medicine is very ignorant on the experience of psychosis and therefore label any experience that seems "delusional" to them because they can't fully understand it for themselves.

It is just fascinating with how many of people's experiences of "psychosis" that I have witnessed through years in treatment and in and out of hospitals really parallel each other. How can so many people's experience of "psychosis" be so similar in many cases to each other if it is just a random symptom.

So many folks I have talked to who have been labeled as having psychosis have just strikingly similar experiences. Though not necessarily the same, a lot of their experiences parallel themselves. Like, this isn't the first time anyone other than me has experienced an energetic grid within the hospital. That's why I take this view very seriously, even before having experienced it for myself when I wasn't so drugged anymore.

I feel people are too quick to jump to heavy drugging of heavy psychotropics that decrease brain mass volume, cause early cognitive decline, destroys short and long term memory, among a host of other serious physical and cognitive side effects that last in the short and long term. Even after coming off all those meds, my mind and body are not the same. Thankfully my eyes aren't rolling into the back of my head anymore… but my memory, shot. I am on disability at only 24, and I am still in and out of these facilities because my mind really isn't right. I am a shell of what I could have been and done with my life so I just keep trying to kill myself. Hopefully soon it will work out. I keep getting found too soon.

I feel we drug and suppress without really talking to people. Psychosis, or any other mental health challenges. These psychs spend literally no more than 5 minutes with you and already have a list of drugs from the pharmaceuticals companies that they gotta push. Somehow conjuring up a diagnosis that can really affect your life within 5 minutes.

I was the only one who actually had conversations with people in the acuity ward. A lot of them saw themselves as spiritual figures which, after having similar experiences for myself, I see that they are channeling certain archetypes and energies. Not that they are necessarily that incarnation in particular (although we are all connected, all one energy at our core), they are channeling them and taking on their identities. So many people have that experience with their idea of Jesus. Or Saints. Or other figures from spiritual beliefs.

If a doctor heard that, they immediately get shoved all these medications, often even involuntarily commited and forced to take those heavy psychotropics. Completely stripping their autonomy. Those drugs never cure them, they only sedate and subdue them. Much like lobotomies and ECT. Within 5 minutes of seeing them.

No one else would talk to them, you could tell. Sometimes it was hard to follow their train of thoughts, but you could tell that they appreciated someone actually taking the time and caring. They are still people with feelings despite what the staff think. Frankly more human than any of those staff members, that is for sure. I have had the fortune of meeting amazing people in those wards and they are often the ones that get ignored and judged without even being talked to and listened to.

Anyways, I apologize for the rambling I just got discharged today and can finally write and think. But to get back to the original point, I believe there is a grid because it manipulates how the ward is run, and affects people's cognition. You can tell it slows them, that fog. So they can't stand up for themselves and will just blindly follow however the staff choose to run the ward and run their lives with meds.

So they can't ask questions and challenge the staff on why they won't disclose medication side effects. Why that is such a secret. Knowing you have no access to look things up for yourself, yet they refuse to be honest. If the side effects weren't so bad, why not just be upfront about them?
 
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I've been to two different psych wards, in two different occasions. During my second stay, I had some hallucinations, due to poorly prescribed meds, I believe. I felt like someone was crawling on my bed and pulling my sheets, but when I turned to look, my roommates were sound asleep.

I don't ever want to go back to a ward again, but I still want to die. I am still in severe emotional pain that hurts my heart everyday, years after my trauma. I'm done.
 
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I've been to two different psych wards, in two different occasions. During my second stay, I had some hallucinations, due to poorly prescribed meds, I believe. I felt like someone was crawling on my bed and pulling my sheets, but when I turned to look, my roommates were sound asleep.

I don't ever want to go back to a ward again, but I still want to die. I am still in severe emotional pain that hurts my heart everyday, years after my trauma. I'm done.
I am so sorry. That is such a painful place to be in. And it can be especially helpless not being able to find the "help" everyone speaks of, especially after bad experiences. Frankly, after all the treatment I have had, I don't think I believe there is any help out there. The only place we can really turn is psychiatry, and they just want to use us for profit.

I am so sorry about those medication side effects. Those medications can be really awful and I have had hallucinations as reactions to them and know many who have as well, which defeats the purpose when aren't they supposed to be preventative?

Also, I feel that psychiatrists don't take interactions seriously whatsoever, whether that is putting people on multiple meds at the same time or being ignorant to what someone is already taking and how that all can interact. Plus they don't discuss what drugs to be aware of like how certain Over the Counter drugs can interact, which is just completely dangerous and negligible but happens constantly.

I really hope you can find some solace in your life, and relief from your pain. I hope you can find better, genuine support in your life to help you. I hate how our system just traumatizes people who are already struggling and vulnerable when they are seeking help in the first place.
 
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I am so sorry. That is such a painful place to be in. And it can be especially helpless not being able to find the "help" everyone speaks of, especially after bad experiences. Frankly, after all the treatment I have had, I don't think I believe there is any help out there. The only place we can really turn is psychiatry, and they just want to use us for profit.

I am so sorry about those medication side effects. Those medications can be really awful and I have had hallucinations as reactions to them and know many who have as well, which defeats the purpose when aren't they supposed to be preventative?

Also, I feel that psychiatrists don't take interactions seriously whatsoever, whether that is putting people on multiple meds at the same time or being ignorant to what someone is already taking and how that all can interact. Plus they don't discuss what drugs to be aware of like how certain Over the Counter drugs can interact, which is just completely dangerous and negligible but happens constantly.

I really hope you can find some solace in your life, and relief from your pain. I hope you can find better, genuine support in your life to help you. I hate how our system just traumatizes people who are already struggling and vulnerable when they are seeking help in the first place.
Thank you for your words of kindness. I hope you find a way out of your misery. I am not completely out of support, but I feel like I am beyond all help. The suffering and unrelenting pain every second are too strong at this point, I must be put out of my struggle. Sadly no one outside of this forum would ever agree to help me out with my need to die.
 
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I appreciate your perspective. I do agree about being sensitive to the wiring and lighting, I think that could definitely be a possibility since they insist on having fluorescent lighting everywhere you go despite people being sensitive to it, and it is an old building where this certain hospital is.

I personally have different views about psychosis. I am not surprised I got that reply, I was prepared for something like that. I will keep an open mind, although I personally do not see psychosis the same way as standard beliefs in the west.

I resonate more with it being a spiritual illness that is being completely misinterpreted and suppressed by western medicine.

I can see why you jump to that conclusion though as western medicine is very ignorant on the experience of psychosis and therefore label any experience that seems "delusional" to them because they can't fully understand it for themselves.

It is just fascinating with how many of people's experiences of "psychosis" that I have witnessed through years in treatment and in and out of hospitals really parallel each other. How can so many people's experience of "psychosis" be so similar in many cases to each other if it is just a random symptom.

So many folks I have talked to who have been labeled as having psychosis have just strikingly similar experiences. Though not necessarily the same, a lot of their experiences parallel themselves. Like, this isn't the first time anyone other than me has experienced an energetic grid within the hospital. That's why I take this view very seriously, even before having experienced it for myself when I wasn't so drugged anymore.

I feel people are too quick to jump to heavy drugging of heavy psychotropics that decrease brain mass volume, cause early cognitive decline, destroys short and long term memory, among a host of other serious physical and cognitive side effects that last in the short and long term. Even after coming off all those meds, my mind and body are not the same. Thankfully my eyes aren't rolling into the back of my head anymore… but my memory, shot. I am on disability at only 24, and I am still in and out of these facilities because my mind really isn't right. I am a shell of what I could have been and done with my life so I just keep trying to kill myself. Hopefully soon it will work out. I keep getting found too soon.

I feel we drug and suppress without really talking to people. Psychosis, or any other mental health challenges. These psychs spend literally no more than 5 minutes with you and already have a list of drugs from the pharmaceuticals companies that they gotta push. Somehow conjuring up a diagnosis that can really affect your life within 5 minutes.

I was the only one who actually had conversations with people in the acuity ward. A lot of them saw themselves as spiritual figures which, after having similar experiences for myself, I see that they are channeling certain archetypes and energies. Not that they are necessarily that incarnation in particular (although we are all connected, all one energy at our core), they are channeling them and taking on their identities. So many people have that experience with their idea of Jesus. Or Saints. Or other figures from spiritual beliefs.

If a doctor heard that, they immediately get shoved all these medications, often even involuntarily commited and forced to take those heavy psychotropics. Completely stripping their autonomy. Those drugs never cure them, they only sedate and subdue them. Much like lobotomies and ECT. Within 5 minutes of seeing them.

No one else would talk to them, you could tell. Sometimes it was hard to follow their train of thoughts, but you could tell that they appreciated someone actually taking the time and caring. They are still people with feelings despite what the staff think. Frankly more human than any of those staff members, that is for sure. I have had the fortune of meeting amazing people in those wards and they are often the ones that get ignored and judged without even being talked to and listened to.

Anyways, I apologize for the rambling I just got discharged today and can finally write and think. But to get back to the original point, I believe there is a grid because it manipulates how the ward is run, and affects people's cognition. You can tell it slows them, that fog. So they can't stand up for themselves and will just blindly follow however the staff choose to run the ward and run their lives with meds.

So they can't ask questions and challenge the staff on why they won't disclose medication side effects. Why that is such a secret. Knowing you have no access to look things up for yourself, yet they refuse to be honest. If the side effects weren't so bad, why not just be upfront about them?
you can stand up for yourself but they'll just mark you "too combative for treatment" and you'll get stuck longer. I think it's more like coercion. They have the power and people give in to just get tf out of there. Nothing like an emotionally abusive relationship with care takers to heal your trauma.
Also- I wonder what's the difference between these bouts of psychosis and say, a spiritual awakening, or people who believe they speak to god? Just depends who you share the info with?
 
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I appreciate your perspective. I do agree about being sensitive to the wiring and lighting, I think that could definitely be a possibility since they insist on having fluorescent lighting everywhere you go despite people being sensitive to it, and it is an old building where this certain hospital is.

I personally have different views about psychosis. I am not surprised I got that reply, I was prepared for something like that. I will keep an open mind, although I personally do not see psychosis the same way as standard beliefs in the west.

I resonate more with it being a spiritual illness that is being completely misinterpreted and suppressed by western medicine.

I can see why you jump to that conclusion though as western medicine is very ignorant on the experience of psychosis and therefore label any experience that seems "delusional" to them because they can't fully understand it for themselves.

It is just fascinating with how many of people's experiences of "psychosis" that I have witnessed through years in treatment and in and out of hospitals really parallel each other. How can so many people's experience of "psychosis" be so similar in many cases to each other if it is just a random symptom.

So many folks I have talked to who have been labeled as having psychosis have just strikingly similar experiences. Though not necessarily the same, a lot of their experiences parallel themselves. Like, this isn't the first time anyone other than me has experienced an energetic grid within the hospital. That's why I take this view very seriously, even before having experienced it for myself when I wasn't so drugged anymore.

I feel people are too quick to jump to heavy drugging of heavy psychotropics that decrease brain mass volume, cause early cognitive decline, destroys short and long term memory, among a host of other serious physical and cognitive side effects that last in the short and long term. Even after coming off all those meds, my mind and body are not the same. Thankfully my eyes aren't rolling into the back of my head anymore… but my memory, shot. I am on disability at only 24, and I am still in and out of these facilities because my mind really isn't right. I am a shell of what I could have been and done with my life so I just keep trying to kill myself. Hopefully soon it will work out. I keep getting found too soon.

I feel we drug and suppress without really talking to people. Psychosis, or any other mental health challenges. These psychs spend literally no more than 5 minutes with you and already have a list of drugs from the pharmaceuticals companies that they gotta push. Somehow conjuring up a diagnosis that can really affect your life within 5 minutes.

I was the only one who actually had conversations with people in the acuity ward. A lot of them saw themselves as spiritual figures which, after having similar experiences for myself, I see that they are channeling certain archetypes and energies. Not that they are necessarily that incarnation in particular (although we are all connected, all one energy at our core), they are channeling them and taking on their identities. So many people have that experience with their idea of Jesus. Or Saints. Or other figures from spiritual beliefs.

If a doctor heard that, they immediately get shoved all these medications, often even involuntarily commited and forced to take those heavy psychotropics. Completely stripping their autonomy. Those drugs never cure them, they only sedate and subdue them. Much like lobotomies and ECT. Within 5 minutes of seeing them.

No one else would talk to them, you could tell. Sometimes it was hard to follow their train of thoughts, but you could tell that they appreciated someone actually taking the time and caring. They are still people with feelings despite what the staff think. Frankly more human than any of those staff members, that is for sure. I have had the fortune of meeting amazing people in those wards and they are often the ones that get ignored and judged without even being talked to and listened to.

Anyways, I apologize for the rambling I just got discharged today and can finally write and think. But to get back to the original point, I believe there is a grid because it manipulates how the ward is run, and affects people's cognition. You can tell it slows them, that fog. So they can't stand up for themselves and will just blindly follow however the staff choose to run the ward and run their lives with meds.

So they can't ask questions and challenge the staff on why they won't disclose medication side effects. Why that is such a secret. Knowing you have no access to look things up for yourself, yet they refuse to be honest. If the side effects weren't so bad, why not just be upfront about them?
I agree with most of this, except the religious mumbo jumbo, which I think is religious craziness. I don't believe Jesus even was a real historical figure at this point and think he may have been an upper class invention ("be meek and don't rebel and you'll go to magical candy lower class fantasy world after you die"). To me, Jesus seems to be another trick of the elite who know the poor do not easily understand the realities and cruelties of nature and need fantasy to survive.


I'm just not sure if blocking dopamine cures anyone of religion. I agree the medications are awful and, the worst part, if you don't say you like them you don't get out.
 
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Mental asylums are genuinely horrible evil places, and sometimes I feel like saying things like this (ie, "there was an evil energy controlling us all there and that's why it's bad") detracts from the actual psychological abuse, cruelty, and financial exploitation of those places. It's like tricking people into thinking criticism of psychiatry and mental health hospitals is crazy, when in fact criticism of those things is actually valid.

You said this so much better than I could! The very real and observable things that many psych units do- physical restraint and abuse, denying patients access to their own records, cutting off contact with needed support systems, lying about policies and denying autonomy- take a huge toll on people who have to live through it.

Yet all these things are easily dismissed by the outside world when claims about "unseen" phenomena come in. People feel awful because of what's happening to them and in front of them, there's no unseen force needed to recognize that.

How can so many people's experience of "psychosis" be so similar in many cases to each other if it is just a random symptom.

A lot of them saw themselves as spiritual figures which, after having similar experiences for myself, I see that they are channeling certain archetypes and energies. ...So many people have that experience with their idea of Jesus. Or Saints. Or other figures from spiritual beliefs.

The experiences are similar because we all have human brains which share many basic mechanisms. It's not random, and I'm not an expert on this subject, but I don't find it surprising at all that the human brain produces similar errors in perception among different people.

I just think we don't yet understand the exact mechanisms that cause certain hallucinations and delusions, but when there's a clear cause of brain damage like with an accident or injury, you see shared symptoms among different people (like uncontrollable laughing or crying, and repeating words and phrases).

Imagine if we didn't have the science to understand that a brain injury caused that; from just interacting with the person, you'd think "I'm seeing them do/say all these things that are different from the norm, and this keeps happening to people with very different personalities, from very different walks of life. Are these people being possessed by some sort of spirit or demon? Is there a malevolent, unseen force causing this?"

The spiritual beliefs make sense to me too- most commonly, religious delusions represent a figure from that person's own community or culture. A Christian is much more likely to believe they're Jesus rather than Buddha.

Among diagnosed schizophrenics, people who already have strong religious beliefs are significantly more likely to have religious delusions than those who aren't religious. If this were an external force, wouldn't we see spirits inhabiting people at an equal rate? Instead, it's related to the culture someone grew up in and their personal level of religious belief. It makes sense to me that the explanation has to do with the inner workings of the brain, rather than an unseen outside force.
 
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