Discussion Do you ever feel you're just overthinking your method?

[Ta555]

I feel like I have two pretty solid methods and I've done as much research as I can on this forum and on the web. Full suspension (with duct tape for good measure) and drowning in bath with weights. It's not even fear of death or pain that's holding me back but overthinking the most unlikely scenarios that could make it go wrong. Things that would never actually happen but seem like overwhelming possibilities in my mind. My health is getting to the point where it's hard to stay around but I keep overthinking. How do people in less developed countries do it with no access to any of the information we have access to? Maybe I guess they don't think about what can go wrong and just do it? Maybe for them ignorance is bliss?
I feel I'm almost ready to go now but the weirdest most improbable things keep popping into my head.

 

[Julgran]

I'm guessing that most successful CTB methods are happy accidents - meaning that they just happen to work, and you are definitely not the only one who over-thinks these things.

I hope that you will eventually find peace with your chosen method

 

[Ta555]

I'm guessing that most successful CTB methods are happy accidents - meaning that they just happen to work, and you are definitely not the only one who over-thinks these things.

I hope that you will eventually find peace with your chosen method

I wouldn't say most ctb is accidental. Things don't just 'happen to work'. They work because of certain mechanisms and if you know the mechanism you can make it work successfully. I feel like for those people that have been here on this site for a while we know the methods inside out and can probably pull of several methods flawlessly but we're still scared of failure. The only method of failure that's truly unpredictable is another person coming across your attempt. That's the hardest to control for especially if you don't live alone. But other than that I feel if you've been on this site regularly for a month or so you probably know how to perform a perfect ctb.

 

[Julgran]

I wouldn't say most ctb is accidental. Things don't just 'happen to work'. They work because of certain mechanisms and if you know the mechanism you can make it work successfully. I feel like for those people that have been here on this site for a while we know the methods inside out and can probably pull of several methods flawlessly but we're still scared of failure. The only method of failure that's truly unpredictable is another person coming across your attempt. That's the hardest to control for especially if you don't live alone. But other than that I feel if you've been on this site regularly for a month or so you probably know how to perform a perfect ctb.

You are right about the execution of the method, but I thought that those who actually succeed don't actually put much thought into it, like you said. In other words, those who succeed will just plan their method and then cease to exist without much hassle.

I always respect a senior point of view, and I wish you luck on your journey

 

[WrongPlaceWrongTime]

Some people attempt to ctb impulsively and can succeed on the first try. Others can plan it out extensively and still fail. Sometimes I feel like caring about the specifics in planning is pointless.

 

[Ta555]

Some people attempt to ctb impulsively and can succeed on the first try. Others can plan it out extensively and still fail. Sometimes I feel like caring about the specifics in planning is pointless.

Well yeah anything can happen. But if you plan it out extensively and test your equipment there's no reason for failure except being unexpectedly found.

 

[myopybyproxy]

Yes - ironically, stories of those who failed and have permanent effects (blindness, paralysis, loss of limb, etc) strike fear into me - along with the firm resolution that I must not fail. I will get it right this time.

But there are too many variables. I cannot account for them all. That is a fact I must accept - else remain indefinitely paralysed with indecision over fear of failure and continue dragging this hollow husk through further pointless existence. Once my method and materials have been settled, I will determine if the probability is high enough - that I have done all within my power to insure success.

 

[GentleJerk]

If it's in your nature to overthink things like me, then there's probably not much you can do about that. Make whatever plans you will, and the rest will follow. But some things can't be helped and you can't always think your way out of everything- don't beat yourself up.

 

[Ta555]

If it's in your nature to overthink things like me, then there's probably not much you can do about that. Make whatever plans you will, and the rest will follow. But some things can't be helped and you can't always think your way out of everything- don't beat yourself up.

Yeah I definitely overthink! I tend to come up with outlandish scenarios that other people would never think of! That's a bad habit of mine. Glad to see someone else who understands

 

[chainofcommand]

I feel like I have two pretty solid methods and I've done as much research as I can on this forum and on the web. Full suspension (with duct tape for good measure) and drowning in bath with weights. It's not even fear of death or pain that's holding me back but overthinking the most unlikely scenarios that could make it go wrong. Things that would never actually happen but seem like overwhelming possibilities in my mind. My health is getting to the point where it's hard to stay around but I keep overthinking. How do people in less developed countries do it with no access to any of the information we have access to? Maybe I guess they don't think about what can go wrong and just do it? Maybe for them ignorance is bliss?
I feel I'm almost ready to go now but the weirdest most improbable things keep popping into my head.

Great question. I don't want to enable you, but alcohol helps. It shuts down such questions. It is what it is.

 

[FuneralCry]

At least in my case, having a fear of failure is perfectly rational. I have read about how people have got damage after an attempt and that is one of my worst nightmares. We all deserve the option of a reliable, peaceful exit and nobody should have to resort to methods that could fail in the first place. I try to tell myself that many people have succeeded in ctb which shows it is always possible.

 

[Mashedout]

It is the most important thing you will ever do with this life so if anything can be overthought, this is it.

 

[StevieNixs]

I feel like I have two pretty solid methods and I've done as much research as I can on this forum and on the web. Full suspension (with duct tape for good measure) and drowning in bath with weights. It's not even fear of death or pain that's holding me back but overthinking the most unlikely scenarios that could make it go wrong. Things that would never actually happen but seem like overwhelming possibilities in my mind. My health is getting to the point where it's hard to stay around but I keep overthinking. How do people in less developed countries do it with no access to any of the information we have access to? Maybe I guess they don't think about what can go wrong and just do it? Maybe for them ignorance is bliss?
I feel I'm almost ready to go now but the weirdest most improbable things keep popping into my head.

I have definitely done this and it has ended up being counterproductive, and has led me to change my method at least three times. I have now settled on a method (which was not one of my previous choices) and have decided to stay away from failure threads.

 

[Ta555]

I have definitely done this and it has ended up being counterproductive, and has led me to change my method at least three times. I have now settled on a method (which was not one of my previous choices) and have decided to stay away from failure threads.

Yes!! I changed methods so many times in the beginning too!! May I ask what yours is?

At least in my case, having a fear of failure is perfectly rational. I have read about how people have got damage after an attempt and that is one of my worst nightmares. We all deserve the option of a reliable, peaceful exit and nobody should have to resort to methods that could fail in the first place. I try to tell myself that many people have succeeded in ctb which shows it is always possible.

Yes, I have read stories like this too and that's what puts me off but the thing is in all the cases of failure there was a reason that could have been prevented like testing the rope, having the right knot, having a strong suspension point. And even though I've already got all the right things I still get worried. That's what I mean by overthinking. We have all the right knowledge and materials but still think it's going to go wrong.

 

[StevieNixs]

Yes!! I changed methods so many times in the beginning too!! May I ask what yours is?

Yes, I have read stories like this too and that's what puts me off but the thing is in all the cases of failure there was a reason that could have been prevented like testing the rope, having the right knot, having a strong suspension point. And even though I've already got all the right things I still get worried. That's what I mean by overthinking. We have all the right knowledge and materials but still think it's going to go wrong.

If you don't mind (I hope you don't) I'd rather not discuss my methods here anymore. I will say that originally I decided on full suspension hanging well before I came to this site, then after finding this site and having read the threads, I changed my mind. Then I decided on various meds I had such as morphine, oxy, sleeping pills but reading the threads there was too much of a possibility of failure. Then I decided on SN and went ahead and bought everything. Same thing happened , worries and concerns set in. My method is conclusive now. I won't change my mind with respect to this and I feel comfortable and happier with this choice.

 

[dustyfurcollector]

I wouldn't say most ctb is accidental. Things don't just 'happen to work'. They work because of certain mechanisms and if you know the mechanism you can make it work successfully. I feel like for those people that have been here on this site for a while we know the methods inside out and can probably pull of several methods flawlessly but we're still scared of failure. The only method of failure that's truly unpredictable is another person coming across your attempt. That's the hardest to control for especially if you don't live alone. But other than that I feel if you've been on this site regularly for a month or so you probably know how to perform a perfect ctb.

Where do I go on this site to find out? I'm new and although I'm not looking to go today, I'm looking to have a method in my pocket for when I use it. Thanks

 

[Ta555]

If you don't mind (I hope you don't) I'd rather not discuss my methods here anymore. I will say that originally I decided on full suspension hanging well before I came to this site, then after finding this site and having read the threads, I changed my mind. Then I decided on various meds I had such as morphine, oxy, sleeping pills but reading the threads there was too much of a possibility of failure. Then I decided on SN and went ahead and bought everything. Same thing happened - but I had other concerns. My method is conclusive now. I won't change my mind with respect to this and I feel comfortable and happier with this choice.

Fair enough! I respect that. Just really curious what this method now since it seems to give you so much peace of mind and I really wish I had that! But I'm glad you found something you are comfortable with.

Where do I go on this site to find out? I'm new and although I'm not looking to go today, I'm looking to have a method in my pocket for when I use it. Thanks

Just scroll through the recent threads that will give you a good idea of what people are using and planning. If something catches your eye then use the search function to search more about it :)

 

[WilNord]

Nope, I underestimate them actually

 

[Ta555]

Nope, I underestimate them actually

What do you mean??

 

[WilNord]

What do you mean??

I dont realise all that can go wrong, check my post about baking soda if you want to know what I mean

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Perhaps. While I'm deadset on my method, when I do extractions, I tend to get experimental and buy something I didn't need or do something that isn't necessary, and it tends to come at a cost.

 

[Hirokami]

The worst-case scenarios tend to get to me the most. I've read stories about those who failed becoming permanently disfigured or having to live the rest of the "lives" in a vegetative state ... And then people considering that a better fate than death and that they're somehow "lucky". Hence, if I do decide to go through with it, it would be important to have the most failsafe method out there. And, even if it were to fail, there would be no serious long-term physiological effects. I've been doing my research on methods and a few of them look promising.

 

[TooConscious]

I try to look at it as SI trying to make it impossible for me but it doesn't make it any easier.
My mind wants to stay alive or is it the evil cowardly elite manipulating our minds. This life is fuckin sick evil hell

 

[greyautumnsky]

No. Overthinking isn't really something you can do, honestly. I say this as someone who's survived... about a dozen or so attempts over the course my lifetime so far. From minor attempts to very serious ones.

You come live and come back with some bad damage.

They were all learning experiences for me.

Now that I'm older, I wouldn't be as reckless as I was when I was younger.

My next time will be my last time.

 

[rationaltake]

Sadly children have managed to ctb.

 

[Ta555]

The worst-case scenarios tend to get to me the most. I've read stories about those who failed becoming permanently disfigured or having to live the rest of the "lives" in a vegetative state ... And then people considering that a better fate than death and that they're somehow "lucky". Hence, if I do decide to go through with it, it would be important to have the most failsafe method out there. And, even if it were to fail, there would be no serious long-term physiological effects. I've been doing my research on methods and a few of them look promising.

Yeah my thoughts exactly. What methods look promising to you??

No. Overthinking isn't really something you can do, honestly. I say this as someone who's survived... about a dozen or so attempts over the course my lifetime so far. From minor attempts to very serious ones.

You come live and come back with some bad damage.

They were all learning experiences for me.

Now that I'm older, I wouldn't be as reckless as I was when I was younger.

My next time will be my last time.

Wow sorry you had to go through all that :( what made you fail all those times?

 

[Hirokami]

Yeah my thoughts exactly. What methods look promising to you??

My general methods seem to take place in pill or powder form as they seem the least painful and damaging compared to the other methods. N and Seco seem to be highly effective, though they aren't the easiest to get.

 

[Ta555]

My general methods seem to take place in pill or powder form as they seem the least painful and damaging compared to the other methods. N and Seco seem to be highly effective, though they aren't the easiest to get.

I have 0 access to N unfortunately. What is seco?

 

[Hirokami]

I have 0 access to N unfortunately. What is seco?

It's what I call Seconal. In the US, it's directly associated with what they use for euthanasia in certain states and seems like a peaceful way to go.

 

[Ta555]

It's what I call Seconal. In the US, it's directly associated with what they use for euthanasia in certain states and seems like a peaceful way to go.

Ah so a different version of N. Damn I wish so bad I could get N