Do you believe with enough benzos timed right you can skill all the SN discomfort?

[heyismeman]

Let's assume you take 40mg of Xanax, crushed up, empty stomach and have zero tolerance at all, you also take some sleeping pills and wait until you begin to feel it, then take the SN, do you believe it's possible to achieve unconsciousness before feeling the SN effects?

 

[resurgence]

40mg xanax no tolerance is definitely something i just read

 

[howunfortunateforme]

How much benzos to take is my question and to not pass out before sn drink

 

[HeartThatFeeds]

i'd say it's probably possible, although unlikely, you'd have to take the benzos a while in advanced before you took the sn and you could possibly pass out before then

 

[divinemistress87]

Its confusing trying to figure out how much to take. I will probably take some half hour before SN then some right after SN. Not sure how much

 

[martinso67]

Its confusing trying to figure out how much to take. I will probably take some half hour before SN then some right after SN. Not sure how much

Is there an alternative that is applied like drops or throw smell like aroma therapy instead of pharmaceutical medication.
For example smoking cannabis during sn preparation and after SN intake is mentioned, but something legal.

 

[SunriseParabellum]

How much benzos to take is my question and to not pass out before sn drink

A couple mg with no tolerance is probably all you need, I don't have a ton of benzo experience but 4mg had me passed out in a peacoat and slurring my words the next day. I dunno if any discomfort from the SN or anything would snap you back to awareness but I felt like you could've punched me and I was staying down. Getting anything DONE before it puts you out is another story though

 

[divinemistress87]

Is there an alternative that is applied like drops or throw smell like aroma therapy instead of pharmaceutical medication.
For example smoking cannabis during sn preparation and after SN intake is mentioned, but something legal.

Cannabis isnt going to knock you out like benzos

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

Cannabis isnt going to knock you out like benzos

Oh man, smoking cannabis before SN could turn into a horrible nightmare because it can increase anxiety and paranoia, especially in new users. Sativa strains in particular can be stimulating and energizing, the opposite of the sedating effect you're shooting for with SN. It becomes more predictable and relaxing with more experience.

A heavy indica strain could be relaxing and provide extra anti-emetic benefits. Alternatively a high-CBD/low-THC strain would provide anti-emetic and possibly anti-anxiety benefits without the high.

What I would be interested in smoking with SN is some opium. The combination of euphoria, relaxation, and pain relief sounds wonderful. One downside is it might contribute to nausea. The main problem is that I have no clue how to get it, it's probably something you have to grow yourself.

 

[Valhala]

One member wrote an extremely detailed and informative post about metoclopramide. In a comment on his post, I indicated that it would be great to write something similar about the timing and dosage of benzos during the SN protocol. It is generally unclear why the recommended dosages of benzos are so different from protocol to protocol, and the same applies to the timing of ingestion. If you take too much, it can knock you out prematurely, that is, before you drink SN. It is also possible that, even if you drink SN due to benzos, you lose consciousness, vomit and die from suffocation instead of hypoxia caused by SN, which I believe is better to avoid. My personal opinion is that perhaps the safest thing to do is to consume an elevated therapeutic dose of benzos (not more than 50% of the prescribed dose) about twenty minutes before consuming SN in order to maximally reduced anxiety and SI while at the same time avoiding death by suffocation due to vomiting.

 

[heyismeman]

One member wrote an extremely detailed and informative post about metoclopramide. In a comment on his post, I indicated that it would be great to write something similar about the timing and dosage of benzos during the SN protocol. It is generally unclear why the recommended dosages of benzos are so different from protocol to protocol, and the same applies to the timing of ingestion. If you take too much, it can knock you out prematurely, that is, before you drink SN. It is also possible that, even if you drink SN due to benzos, you lose consciousness, vomit and die from suffocation instead of hypoxia caused by SN, which I believe is better to avoid. My personal opinion is that perhaps the safest thing to do is to consume an elevated therapeutic dose of benzos (not more than 50% of the prescribed dose) about twenty minutes before consuming SN in order to maximally reduced anxiety and SI while at the same time avoiding death by suffocation due to vomiting.

But for me personally I don't want to go through with the 15 minutes before knocking out where ur freaking out, I think

One member wrote an extremely detailed and informative post about metoclopramide. In a comment on his post, I indicated that it would be great to write something similar about the timing and dosage of benzos during the SN protocol. It is generally unclear why the recommended dosages of benzos are so different from protocol to protocol, and the same applies to the timing of ingestion. If you take too much, it can knock you out prematurely, that is, before you drink SN. It is also possible that, even if you drink SN due to benzos, you lose consciousness, vomit and die from suffocation instead of hypoxia caused by SN, which I believe is better to avoid. My personal opinion is that perhaps the safest thing to do is to consume an elevated therapeutic dose of benzos (not more than 50% of the prescribed dose) about twenty minutes before consuming SN in order to maximally reduced anxiety and SI while at the same time avoiding death by suffocation due to vomiting.

I think the required dose from the OG days of 40 x 30 is kinda trying to tell you that the minimum is 40 and the maximum is infinite because there's no interaction. 40mg of Xanax and 1000mg of Xanax is the same thing, you're unconscious if you have no tolerance the outcome is exactly the same, you pass out.

 

[Valhala]

But for me personally I don't want to go through with the 15 minutes before knocking out where ur freaking out, I think

I think the required dose from the OG days of 40 x 30 is kinda trying to tell you that the minimum is 40 and the maximum is infinite because there's no interaction. 40mg of Xanax and 1000mg of Xanax is the same thing, you're unconscious if you have no tolerance the outcome is exactly the same, you pass out.

Someone once wrote here: "What is 15 minutes of discomfort, agony and moderate pain when you know that you are permanently dealing with the immeasurable suffering and pain of life?" On the other hand, I understand that it is hard for you to even think about those 15 minutes that you know about if they are your last, to possible SI and possible panic. However, the benzos are there to calm you down and reduce the SI even if you don't take a dose that will knock you out before the effect of the SN. It would really be ideal to lose consciousness immediately after ingestion of SN, but there are potentially two problems. The first is possible death due to suffocation by vomiting, and the second, realistically even greater, is that it is practically impossible to calculate the dose of benzo with which one would lose consciousness immediately after ingestion of SN. An additional problem would be even more certain vomiting due to consuming a huge amount of crushed benzo tablets in water. Following the SN farewell thread on this forum I have not come across a single case in practice where someone drank the recommended huge amount of benzos and lost consciousness for several moments after drinking the SN drink. So, the risk is quite high because we have no documented cases of how it works in practice.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

A couple mg with no tolerance is probably all you need, I don't have a ton of benzo experience but 4mg had me passed out in a peacoat and slurring my words the next day. I dunno if any discomfort from the SN or anything would snap you back to awareness but I felt like you could've punched me and I was staying down. Getting anything DONE before it puts you out is another story though

K pin doesn't work for me anymore well 1mg so I was thinking 5 mg before but chew them? Otherwise I'll be waiting forever for then to kick in…then I have some crushed up Valium too could do that after I vommit or after second glass

 

[danny10]

I am a regular user of benzos, I take Clonezapam on a daily basis. I'll just take 20 mg of Clonazepam for my SN procedure. 40 mg of Xanax for someone who never tried benzos, it's just overkill I think. Clonezapam in my opinion is better than Xanax as it's 1. stronger, 2. lasts longer, 3. but needs also longer time (about 60 minutes) to kick in. Xanax on the other hand is 1. faster to act, 2. last much less than Clonazepam, 3. weaker than Clonazepam.

 

[Amarajoy]

Someone once wrote here: "What is 15 minutes of discomfort, agony and moderate pain when you know that you are permanently dealing with the immeasurable suffering and pain of life?" On the other hand, I understand that it is hard for you to even think about those 15 minutes that you know about if they are your last, to possible SI and possible panic. However, the benzos are there to calm you down and reduce the SI even if you don't take a dose that will knock you out before the effect of the SN. It would really be ideal to lose consciousness immediately after ingestion of SN, but there are potentially two problems. The first is possible death due to suffocation by vomiting, and the second, realistically even greater, is that it is practically impossible to calculate the dose of benzo with which one would lose consciousness immediately after ingestion of SN. An additional problem would be even more certain vomiting due to consuming a huge amount of crushed benzo tablets in water.

Following the SN farewell thread on this forum I have not come across a single case in practice where someone drank the recommended huge amount of benzos and lost consciousness for several moments after drinking the SN drink. So, the risk is quite high because we have no documented cases of how it works in practice.

Are you saying no one has lost consciousness shortly after taking benzoes, even at high doses?

 

[Valhala]

Are you saying no one has lost consciousness shortly after taking benzoes, even at high doses?

I didn't mean that someone drank a huge dose of benzos and didn't lose consciousness, but that I didn't read a single farewell thread where someone drank a huge dose of benzos. Anyone who did that would quickly lose consciousness.

 

[Amarajoy]

I didn't mean that someone drank a huge dose of benzos and didn't lose consciousness, but that I didn't read a single farewell thread where someone drank a huge dose of benzos. Anyone who did that would quickly lose consciousness.

Thank you for clarifying. I was shocked by the amount recommended in some of the guides but I didn't recall coming across anyone taking such copious amounts.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

Its confusing trying to figure out how much to take. I will probably take some half hour before SN then some right after SN. Not sure how much

Can you elaborate more on this or message me?