Discussion Do you believe there is a god?

[NoPoint2Life]

No way. How would you justify all the suffering in this world?

 

[dyingslowly]

So, with my SN arriving at any time, i'm thinking about a lot of my beliefs. One, of course, is the "what if there is a god". Will I suffer? Will everything be better? Will it be merciful with a suicidal?
What about you? Do you believe there is a god? A merciful one?

God is not real, if there is a heaven with other people in it. I don't want to go to that heaven period.

 

[Richard Langford]

There's something going on out there that we dont understand certainly. Maybe not a God but a controlling force. I've had 2 or 3 instances in my life where things have happened that have been far too coincidental - like huge, huge odds. I'll detail a couple if people are interested. That's certainly made me think there are other things at play than just us.

 

[CatLvr]

The best way I can describe myself is spiritual. If there is a one, single God who "created and watches over us" I have questions. A LOT of questions about how "He" can just sit back and watch this mess play out, especially when innocents are the ones who suffer the most.

There's something going on out there that we dont understand certainly. Maybe not a God but a controlling force. I've had 2 or 3 instances in my life where things have happened that have been far too coincidental - like huge, huge odds. I'll detail a couple if people are interested. That's certainly made me think there are other things at play than just us.

I've had the same happen to me. I'd love to hear about your encounters.

Mine basically amount to both myself and one of my children having deja vu fairly regularly. I was also visited by my mother's spirit (she has been dead for years now) when I had my accident a few years ago. Thankfully, my spirit that protects me was there to help me because I have never been more terrified in my life (my mother was an abusive, narcissistic bitch who has NEVER done anything good in her life. If she wanted me to "go with her" I can promise you it was to nowhere good because I was her scapegoat). My spirit protected me and sent her on her merry way. Thanks be to her. Blessed be.

 

[GoSan1]

I don't know, probably yes, Christian faith, but without any love left for it. Its like something you cant get rid of anymore...

 

[Richard Langford]

The best way I can describe myself is spiritual. If there is a one, single God who "created and watches over us" I have questions. A LOT of questions about how "He" can just sit back and watch this mess play out, especially when innocents are the ones who suffer the most.

I've had the same happen to me. I'd love to hear about your encounters.

Mine basically amount to both myself and one of my children having deja vu fairly regularly. I was also visited by my mother's spirit (she has been dead for years now) when I had my accident a few years ago. Thankfully, my spirit that protects me was there to help me because I have never been more terrified in my life (my mother was an abusive, narcissistic bitch who has NEVER done anything good in her life. If she wanted me to "go with her" I can promise you it was to nowhere good because I was her scapegoat). My spirit protected me and sent her on her merry way. Thanks be to her. Blessed be.

Here's something I can't expain. About 2000 after being out of the dating scene for an age I was contemplating going back in. Simultaneously, I went on Friends Reunited (it was all very novel back then the Internet). On there I ran in to my very first GF. We exchanged a few messages that day and that was that. Now the very next day I ran into this woman crossing a road. Now I've lived in the same town as her all my life but I'd not seen her since 85. I've never seen her again since in 24 years. The odds of seein her the very next day must be astronomical surely? I felt subsequently it was like some power was trying to show me something. It was far, far too coincidental to be otherwise.

 

[CatLvr]

Here's something I can't expain. About 2000 after being out of the dating scene for an age I was contemplating going back in. Simultaneously, I went on Friends Reunited (it was all very novel back then the Internet). On there I ran in to my very first GF. We exchanged a few messages that day and that was that. Now the very next day I ran into this woman crossing a road. Now I've lived in the same town as her all my life but I'd not seen her since 85. I've never seen her again since in 24 years. The odds of seein her the very next day must be astronomical surely? I felt subsequently it was like some power was trying to show me something. It was far, far too coincidental to be otherwise.

Sometimes it is really hard to figure out what the other world is trying to tell you. I often ponder what the hell they are trying to tell me -- I'm sure I drive the spirits tasked with watching over me crazy because I am not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

[Richard Langford]

Sometimes it is really hard to figure out what the other world is trying to tell you. I often ponder what the hell they are trying to tell me -- I'm sure I drive the spirits tasked with watching over me crazy because I am not the sharpest tool in the shed.

I have another if you want to hear it?

 

[CatLvr]

I have another if you want to hear it?

Oh sure!! I'm ALWAYS ready!

Eta: I can't DM you yet because you are too new but do you think we need to start another thread?? I don't want to derail the OP's thread.

 

[Richard Langford]

Oh sure!! I'm ALWAYS ready!

My mum died in Hospital - I'm British by the way - after 8 weeks in. After visiting (I went in 7am till 7pm) I came out to the main entrance to a Carol Service mid Dec. I stopped and literally as I did a Sister (do you have them in America?) was giving a brief prayer and recounting something. I literally just heard her bit from start to finish and left to the car park thinking what a lovely, caring person. Now my mum was very poorly but no one was expecting her to die right away - a day or 2 maybe. However, one morning said very same Sister came in to discuss 'End of life care'. As we talked my mum died (unbeknownst to us). This Sister had literally only been in the room 2-3 mins. Said Sister was wonderful with my mum (removing things) and with comforting me. I don't know how I'd have managed without her there. To me it was if someone heard me thinking at that carol service and subsequently sent her for when my mums time came. Its a huge hospital with a lot of staff. It just seemed far too coincidental .

Oh sure!! I'm ALWAYS ready!

Eta: I can't DM you yet because you are too new but do you think we need to start another thread?? I don't want to derail the OP's thread.

Sure if you'd like. I'm Christain (as I was brought up that way) but very level headed. I don't believe things lighty. And I dont go to Church. I just can't explain these things that happened to me - there has to be 'sonething else' goibg on we dont understand. Far too coincidental otherwise.

 

[CatLvr]

My mum died in Hospital - I'm British by the way - after 8 weeks in. After visiting (I went in 7am till 7pm) I came out to the main entrance to a Carol Service mid Dec. I stopped and literally as I did a Sister (do you have them in America?) was giving a brief prayer and recounting something. I literally just heard her bit from start to finish and left to the car park thinking what a lovely, caring person. Now my mum was very poorly but no one was expecting her to die right away - a day or 2 maybe. However, one morning said very same Sister came in to discuss 'End of life care'. As we talked my mum died (unbeknownst to us). This Sister had literally only been in the room 2-3 mins. Said Sister was wonderful with my mum (removing things) and with comforting me. I don't know how I'd have managed without her there. To me it was if someone heard me thinking at that carol service and subsequently sent her for when my mums time came. Its a huge hospital with a lot of staff. It just seemed far too coincidental .

That is an AMAZING story! I believe the spirits KNEW you were gonna need help and sent that Sister to you. Some (thing, one) is definitely watching over you.

I'm in the US. We have crazy big hospitals also. The one I was in after my accident is several square city blocks large. It is a teaching hospital and just, well, overwhelming. I have no idea how anyone who works there doesn't get lost just looking for the time clock!!

Yes we have nuns here also.

 

[Richard Langford]

That is an AMAZING story! I believe the spirits KNEW you were gonna need help and sent that Sister to you. Some (thing, one) is definitely watching over you.

I'm in the US. We have crazy big hospitals also. The one I was in after my accident is several square city blocks large. It is a teaching hospital and just, well, overwhelming. I have no idea how anyone who works there doesn't get lost just looking for the time clock!!

Yes we have nuns here also.

Sisters in the UK are just senior nurses in charge but she was a deeply caring religious person obviously. Now if there's someone watching over me odd im on here? I personally believe it was mum they were watching.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

If there is one, i'm so gonna scam him Konosuba style.

 

[Richard Langford]

Sisters in the UK are just senior nurses in charge but she was a deeply caring religious person obviously. Now if there's someone watching over me odd im on here? I personally believe it was mum they were watching. I cant explain it anyway other than some other power involved?

 

[Kilojewel]

I want to sure. But not in the way we think. Maybe there is a creator, but I don't think there's anyone actively watching, or caring. I hope I'll be proven wrong I suppose.

 

[CatLvr]

Sisters in the UK are just senior nurses in charge but she was a deeply caring religious person obviously. Now if there's someone watching over me odd im on here? I personally believe it was mum they were watching.

That could very well have been.

And I have wondered the same about me. (The if I have any-one or -thing watching over me why did I wind up here??) I do not have any answers. I suspect they are trying to show me something though. Because I came here looking for a way to die and I, in addition to that, found a community that UNDERSTANDS me. It has been a surreal adventure so far, that's for sure.

 

[Richard Langford]

That could very well have been.

And I have wondered the same about me. (The if I have any-one or -thing watching over me why did I wind up here??) I do not have any answers. I suspect they are trying to show me something though. Because I came here looking for a way to die and I, in addition to that, found a community that UNDERSTANDS me. It has been a surreal adventure so far, that's for sure.

Hmmm. It's all to easy for some to say there's nothing when instances like mine (and while I'm Christian I'm not religious if that makes sense?) can't be readily explained other than by massive, MASSIVE coincidences - and that's far fetched too. There is something going on. We just dont understand it.