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do you believe

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333s

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Jan 31, 2024
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like you know that some people just able to enjoy themselves and their lives while others fail miserably over and over again no matter what?
life is an endless suffering, but suffering of one is blessed and suffering of another is gross and this difference comes naturally
maybe this question itself comes from the fact that i associate myself with type that fails
inner feeling that i have to try thrice as hard as the person who was just born pleasant and nice or were raised by better community
i want to see the world with someone else's eyes so bad
my whole thinking process comes from all negative exp i gained through life
hi (sorry for my poor english)
 
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ImpairedLowlife

ImpairedLowlife

Empty and hollow
Aug 3, 2020
421
Don't think it's necessarily a density, just a combination of bad consequences and bad luck. Also bad mental state makes everything seem even worse than it already is
 
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Grasp of darkness

Grasp of darkness

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Jun 27, 2026
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Not at all. It's genetics, not destiny. Your genetics will decide your life for a big portion. However, it's not impossible to change your course. You will likely not make a 180, but you can nudge yourself away from your genetic strenghts or weaknesses. For instance if you're socially awkward, going out often and talking with people probably won't make you an extrovert, but it might make you at least come across as fairly normal.
 
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Pony Slaystation

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Jul 28, 2018
97
A mother and her child were waiting for the walk sign. A driver had a stroke and died at the wheel and his car jumped the curb and ploughed over the mother and child.

Was it destiny or coincidence?
 
MissAbyss

MissAbyss

BOOM Shakalaka!
Jul 20, 2025
642
A mix of genes and destiny. I've experienced and seen too much to dismiss it as mere coincidence anymore.
 
pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
4,447
i don't believe in any destiny.

the only destiny is that every human is going to die and so is the Earth , and the universe

i and a human is just another animal a bug.



what is a significant event and to who

do i walk to the kitchen now or back to the couch? to who is that a significant event? is each step determined destiny? or the length of a step or where i look ? who cares ?

humans can only form weak models of what reality or even an event is.

reality can be divided and broken up into smaller and smaller parts. how long is an event a second a micro second , can an event happen in planck time? the definitions change as you try to further divide into smaller parts or define more an event .

the only thing that matters to me is me avoiding unbearable pain .
who would care what i an animal does or doesn't do or what happens to me. they want us to think the universe cares what a small animal an ape , cells , does. the only thing that matters to me is me avoiding unbearable pain .

the fact is every human and other animal will die. the only things that matter to me is me not suffering extreme pain from now until i die anyway. nothing else matters or is significant.

things that happen to an individual are defined only subjectively by that individual

but the worst pain is objectively bad to every human or other animal

seems to me this destiny things presupposes someone or something writing some script for every human .

no one knows about my life and there isn't any supernatural being or universe or whatever caring about what future tasks i do .

a human is just chemical reactions , atoms a machine no different from other chemical reactions

things that happen to an individual are defined subjectively by that individual . and many or most cause suffering
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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When I'm feeling lazy or scared, I like the thought of destiny. At least- the sugar coated type- that everything works out for the best in the end. That sometimes, bad things need to happen in order for better things to. Which has actually happened on occassion for real. It's more something I tell myself to try to comfort myself though- rather than something I truly believe in. Plus, it's a way to avoid responsibility. I was destined to fail this or that thing.

I think there's the issue of destiny vs. determisism. I think determinism is more likely. That all that happens to us is a result of all that went before. Our genetic makeup, our upbringing, all our life experiences- they all inform the choices we make. Sure, there's also some randomness to it too. Life throws curved balls on occassion. But then- how we respond to them is somewhat- perhaps mostly determined by who we have grown to be.
 
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LigottiIsRight

LigottiIsRight

Life is not worth beginning.
Jan 28, 2025
219
I believe in causal determinism (things happen because something), which isn't the same as destiny/teleology (things happen for something).
 
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Pony Slaystation

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Jul 28, 2018
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humans can only form weak models of what reality or even an event is.

no one knows about my life and there isn't any supernatural being or universe or whatever caring about what future tasks i do .

a human is just chemical reactions , atoms a machine no different from other chemical reactions

things that happen to an individual are defined subjectively by that individual . and many or most cause suffering
For someone who claims "humans can only form weak models of what reality or even an event is" you have very fixed ideas about things like "a human is just" blah blah. How can you say what a human just is? "no one knows about my life and there isn't any supernatural being or universe or whatever". Maybe not. But you're very certain about everything.
 
pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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For someone who claims "humans can only form weak models of what reality or even an event is" you have very fixed ideas about things like "a human is just" blah blah. How can you say what a human just is? "no one knows about my life and there isn't any supernatural being or universe or whatever". Maybe not. But you're very certain about everything.
a human is the same cells as in other animals . a human brain cell, an amoeba, a bacteria , a fly brain cell, the first cell etc all have the same fundamental machines inside the cell . DNA , ribosomes, ATP , same genetic code, RNA and more. if any of these is removed the cell cannot function.



this shows a human is just an animal , cells , a machine, chemical reactions.

the simpler single celled organisms and a cell is just a machine.

the above aren't my certainty although yes i'm certain . these are facts that have been proven a million times over by many experimenters and are in thousands of books, and millions of web pages . Any simple internet search or askin any ai will show links to prove these are facts.

what's not a fact and for what there is zero evidence is any destiny . where is the evidence proof details or rationale for this destiny abstract idea? there is none. what is even a significant event or action that a human takes.

is destiny only for a human animal but not for a chimpanzee, monkey , cat , mouse, ant, fish, bacteria? at what point does it start?

At what point in evolution did some god or whatever start planning or caring about each action an animal takes? at the worm, the fish, the insect, the mouse , the monkey , the dog, the ape , the human ? why , how , for what reason and where is the evidence details or logic for any of this.

who writes or cares about every action any one of quadrillions of animals including 8 billion humans do ? no one and there is no evidence. and it's ludricous to even think this is feasible or rational even for just the humans.

what is a significant even or action that the universe is supposed to care about , does a fly go left or right multiply it by the quadrillions of actions every day. or the trillions of actions of just humans.

why would anything care about what chemical reactions do or don't do ? it's not logical or rational . why would anything care about what i do? nothing does.

100's of trillions of animals with a brain a lot of fish , insects etc die every single day mostly a torturous painful Death in this hell.

these animals can suffer pain .

174,000 humans die very day .

there is no evidence for any destiny , soul, anything supernatural, magic, multiverses, other dimensions, or that a human is anything other than what i said above just another animal a machine ,cells , chemical reactions.

it is also true that a human can only think about 4 concepts at a time. try to do even 2 tasks at once. consciousness can process only about 120 bits per second. short term memory is only around 15 seconds long. try to memorize a 10 digit number.
 
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Pony Slaystation

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"a human is just" -- you're basing it on current scientific knowledge -- which is always evolving.

you say "humans can only form weak models of what reality or even an event is".

same is true of science.
 
pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
4,447
"a human is just" -- you're basing it on current scientific knowledge -- which is always evolving.

you say "humans can only form weak models of what reality or even an event is".

same is true of science.
There is no evidence for any destiny .

who is deciding or caring what i or any human is doing? there is no evidence, observation nor even logic for any that .

no observations no details .

what is a significant even or action?

i'll never believe in any destiny fate superstion, soul afterlife , magic nothing ever
 

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