Disposal of remaining SN

[Theanswer]

Hi - Yes, I've searched but no helpful responses. I am going to ctb in a hotel room in less than a week. I have a one bedroom suite - bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, living room. Bedroom has door and bathroom adjoining my bedroom has door. I am going to put a sign on bedroom door...do not enter, call police, etc. I was going to mention Sodium Nitrite for hazmat reasons but won't do that now. Just in case, I don't want the blue intervention. SO Any ideas of how to safely dispose of the rest of the bottle of Sodium Nitrite? I'm not going to be able to take it to a hazardous waste facility, of course. Thank you.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

I don't think you need to worry about it. Police will most likely be dispatched to collect and dispose of it. Your death will be termed unnatural causes, e.g. a 'suicide'. There shouldn't be any doubt that its a poisoning. If there's an intervention you might get blue methylene anyway, since its a treatment for the symptoms not necessarily the cause.

I don't think theres any way to dispose of it better than the police can, but if don't want to leave it around, then the main option is to flush it down the toilet to ensure it enters the sewage system. You shouldn't normally flush chemicals or anything else down the toilet, but SN is a salt i.e. food preservative so might not be too bad. You could also wrap it up in a bin bag, again and leave it for the police, but the poisoning trope is looking for pill bottles first.

 

[Jrmull1993]

While an oxidizer, Sodium Nitrite is not a hazardous substance. No need for special precautions.

If you are found prior to death, it won't matter if the bottle is around or not, as intravenous methylene blue is utilized as a first line treatment for methemoglobinemia regardless of what substance caused it.

 

[Theanswer]

Thanks but that's not my concern, really. I don't want the remaining SN hanging around because it may alert police/EMT sooner rather than later to do the blue antidote. I'm likely overthinking but I don't want a damn thing fucking this up, you know? : ) Thanks much.

While an oxidizer, Sodium Nitrite is not a hazardous substance. No need for special precautions.

SN is indeed a hazmat hence my question. Flushing it down the toilet will be toxic to aquatic and possibly humans. In addition, spreading it on the ground could result in a dog, animal licking it.

 

[Jrmull1993]

Thanks but that's not my concern, really. I don't want the remaining SN hanging around because it may alert police/EMT sooner rather than later to do the blue antidote.

If you are found alive and brought to the hospital you will be given intravenous methylene blue regardless if the bottle of Sodium Nitrite is around or not.

Methylene Blue is not an antidote for Sodium Nitrite, it's an antidote (Treatment) for methemoglobinemia, which is the condition that SN triggers which can result in death.

 

[Theanswer]

While an oxidizer, Sodium Nitrite is not a hazardous substance. No need for special precautions.

If you are found prior to death, it won't matter if the bottle is around or not, as intravenous methylene blue is utilized as a first line treatment for methemoglobinemia regardless of what substance caused it.

I think you're right. I am overthinking. I realize what antidote means. : ) It's difficult not to do when I am so close to ctb. I'll hide the bottle somewhere in my suite. Okay, thanks. I'm not so sure first treatment is so widespread but I am in a city with knowledgeable health care, so I would "assume" hence my concern. Thanks.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

You don't need to worry that SN is harmful to aquatic life and humans in the sewage system. It's the same place excrement goes. Excrement is incredibly harmful, by itself, and we generate a literal shit-ton of it. The sewage system also picks up some plastics, which would harmful as well, anyway. The tiny amount of SN would be incredibly diluted in the sewage by comparison. The only worry is whether or not it would damage the sewage system, but its a salt, so I doubt it.

 

[Theanswer]

You don't need to worry that SN is harmful to aquatic life and humans in the sewage system. It's the same place excrement goes. Excrement is incredibly harmful, by itself.

Sorry but need to correct. SN is way different than excrements and plastics. It is indeed harmful to aquatic life and humans in the sewage system including with this amount.

 

[Jrmull1993]

I'm not so sure first treatment is so widespread but I am in a city with knowledgeable health care, so I would "assume" hence my concern.

Unfortunately if your found alive, your lips and extremities will be blue, and the fingertip O2 sensor (Blood Oximeter) will immediately confirm methemoglobinemia.

Intravenous methylene blue is stocked at all hospitals as it's a first resort medication for this condition.

My advise would be to consume as much SN as possible to limit the chances of being found alive.

 

[Theanswer]

Thanks, everyone. This is what's called planning and preparing. It ain't so easy. : )

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Sorry but need to correct. SN is way different than excrements and plastics. It is indeed harmful to aquatic life and humans in the sewage system including with this amount.

Can you provide a source for that? Because my experience with chemistry alone makes me really doubt that. The chemical formula for SN is NaNO2. SN is soluble in water. It is going to be really, really, really diluted.

 

[Theanswer]

Google is your friend. : )

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Google is your friend. : )

How easy would it be to poison a city's water supply?

Answer (1 of 2): Q: “How easy would it be to poison a city's water supply?” It depends. It depends on what source a city might have for its water supply. In most cases, water quality measures require limitation or prohibition of public access to such sources. It may be relatively easy to deposi...

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Basically its not that easy, not without a truckload of SN, and sewage goes through a treatment plant. We don't drink from it, we'd be at risk from so much bacteria if we did, e.g. anything that can actually multiply in water as well. If it was easy, then terrorists would be doing it all the time instead of blowing themselves up.

 

[Theanswer]

How easy would it be to poison a city's water supply?

Answer (1 of 2): Q: “How easy would it be to poison a city's water supply?” It depends. It depends on what source a city might have for its water supply. In most cases, water quality measures require limitation or prohibition of public access to such sources. It may be relatively easy to deposi...

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Basically its not that easy, not without a truckload of SN, and sewage goes through a treatment plant. We don't drink from it, we'd be at risk from so much bacteria if we did, e.g. anything that can actually multiply in water as well. If it was easy, then terrorists would be doing it all the time instead of blowing themselves up.

Okay, you're right. Quora?? Not the first thing I would go to for research. : )

Thanks but that's not my concern, really. I don't want the remaining SN hanging around because it may alert police/EMT sooner rather than later to do the blue antidote. I'm likely overthinking but I don't want a damn thing fucking this up, you know? : ) Thanks much.

SN is indeed a hazmat hence my question. Flushing it down the toilet will be toxic to aquatic and possibly humans. In addition, spreading it on the ground could result in a dog, animal licking it.

Thank you @wljourney

 

[wljourney]

SN is indeed a hazmat hence my question. Flushing it down the toilet will be toxic to aquatic and possibly humans. In addition, spreading it on the ground could result in a dog, animal licking it.

Very much this!!!

Please dispose of SN properly.
If necessary remove the labels and that will slow down the identification and consequently the administration of met blue.
But I personally would leave it openly visible for police to find just so you know that it will be disposed of safely.

The likelihood of being found early is very slim in your scenario and if they can't identify the source, they won't know to administer meth blue until you are in the ER and they have run more tests.

 

[Theanswer]

Very much this!!!

Please dispose of SN properly.
If necessary remove the labels and that will slow down the identification and consequently the administration of met blue.
But I personally would leave it openly visible for police to find just so you know that it will be disposed of safely.

The likelihood of being found early is very slim in your scenario and if they can't identify the source, they won't know to administer meth blue until you are in the ER and they have run more tests.

This!! Exactly, I will remove the label and "try" to hide some of the leftover Thank you!

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Basic chemistry and ratios doesn't really need research, this is g.c.s.e. level stuff, but ok 'Heisenberg' XD

 

[wljourney]

This!! Exactly, I will remove the label and "try" to hide some of the leftover Thank you!

Oh and unless you are close to a larger hospital, I do not believe that smaller hospitals have meth blue in stock.

It's simply still an outlier in suicides (even though risisng rapidly).
realistically small town hospitals barely have enough cardio machines and ventilators (or staff). They are profit centers and it is against every profit-making-concept to stock a medication that may not ever be needed.

 

[Jrmull1993]

Oh and unless you are close to a larger hospital, I do not believe that smaller hospitals have meth blue in stock.

It's simply still an outlier in suicides (even though risisng rapidly).
realistically small town hospitals barely have enough cardio machines and ventilators (or staff). They are profit centers and it is against every profit-making-concept to stock a medication that may not ever be needed.

Intravenous methylene blue is an incredably common and low cost medication worldwide. It's purpose is to treat methemoglobinemia which is really not too rare, and caused by many substances and disorders, not just nitrite poisioning. It is also very commonly used in conjunction with oxygen therapy and intubation.

 

[Theanswer]

Oh and unless you are close to a larger hospital, I do not believe that smaller hospitals have meth blue in stock.

It's simply still an outlier in suicides (even though risisng rapidly).
realistically small town hospitals barely have enough cardio machines and ventilators (or staff). They are profit centers and it is against every profit-making-concept to stock a medication that may not ever be needed.

I'm set. Thanks so much @wljourney . I have the suite for a good amount of time so I'm good. Thanks for your help and warmth.
Just an fyi, hospitals in my area will definitely have methylene blue antidote and I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT. My question, really was the disposal. : ) Thanks, all.

 

[wljourney]

Intravenous methylene blue is an incredably common and low cost medication worldwide. It's purpose is to treat methemoglobinemia which is really not too rare, and caused by many substances and disorders, not just nitrite poisioning. It is also very commonly used in conjunction with oxygen therapy and intubation.

ah, interesting. I recently read in a letter to ER's in Canada that hospitals should considering stocking meth blue (for SN poisoning). Therefore assumed that it's not a normal/usual drug to have around. Then again, with current wait times to even be triaged of 12+ hours at many hospitals , even if they HAD it, it would definitely be too late.

 

[Theanswer]

Bottom line? Some hospitals have it and some don't. AND not ALL hospitals have this. I'd like to end this thread, okay? It's making me sad because what I was asking for was help ON DISPOSING OF SN and hopefully warmth in my soon ctb, not debate.

 

[Jrmull1993]

@Theanswer sorry if I came across as being dense, that was not my intent.

On another note, I wish you the best on your journey to find peace.

 

[Judy Garland]

Sorry but need to correct. SN is way different than excrements and plastics. It is indeed harmful to aquatic life and humans in the sewage system including with this amount.

It's not going to do anything to the sewer system. Flush it right down. For crying out loud, it would be incredibly diluted before it even gets to the sewer system, and what are you worried about hurting, cockroaches? Rats?

 

[jk9761]

Hi - Yes, I've searched but no helpful responses. I am going to ctb in a hotel room in less than a week. I have a one bedroom suite - bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, living room. Bedroom has door and bathroom adjoining my bedroom has door. I am going to put a sign on bedroom door...do not enter, call police, etc. I was going to mention Sodium Nitrite for hazmat reasons but won't do that now. Just in case, I don't want the blue intervention. SO Any ideas of how to safely dispose of the rest of the bottle of Sodium Nitrite? I'm not going to be able to take it to a hazardous waste facility, of course. Thank you.

flush the rest down the toilet . i would just put the do not disturb sign only and leave it nothing else