Disillusioned with politics

[Chinaski]

I'm surprised you are a Bernie, Hillary, and planned parenthood supporter. I'm not saying abortions are not necessary ever, but I would say unrestricted abortion for any reason is harmful to women. Plus they use the fetal tissue to create products that extend life for the wealthy. It alters the relational dynamics between men and women. Basically it promotes promiscuity and prevents marriage. Also promotes single mothers which disadvantages kids who grow up in that situation. It may from the outside look like it's about helping women but the real agenda is much more sinister.

Absolutely amazed that abortion is still a red hot political topic in the US in the year of our lord 2019, jfc.

 

[Final Escape]

Absolutely amazed that abortion is still a red hot political topic in the US in the year of our lord 2019, jfc.

Why is that? Abortion changes demographics for one thing, and not necessarily for the better. Legal abortion is about power for the left not about what is best for women. Because abortion was legal I naively aborted all my children in my 20's because I didn't understand just how fertile I was and that birth control was not as simple as I thought. I figured I could be like a man lol! Granted I did come from a very adverse childhood which predisposed me to promiscuity and not understanding how important it is to wait till marriage to have sex. But the answer was not in killing off all my kids. I needed therapy to work through the issues that made me keep repeating the same mistakes with men. I tried various birth controls and had really bad side effects so it failed me. I had asked about the thing they put inside u but the lady denied me that one. It's much more effective at preventing pregnancy with no hormones.

 

[okyeah]

politics is a coping mechanism for a lot of people

 

[okyeah]

Why is that? Abortion changes demographics for one thing, and not necessarily for the better. Legal abortion is about power for the left not about what is best for women.

i agree. i used to be a big leftist because i never really thought about it much and i thought the richest rich need more taxes (they do). But then I realized what's really going on here and if i voted in my self interest i wouldn't be a leftist.

 

[Final Escape]

i agree. i used to be a big leftist because i never really thought about it much and i thought the richest rich need more taxes (they do). But then I realized what's really going on here and if i voted in my self interest i wouldn't be a leftist.

Yes, everything we see is not always as it actually is. We aren't educated about the truth in school, although some people are lucky to be educated about reality and invested in by good parents which can help them not fall into the brainwashing by media, government schooling.

 

[okyeah]

Yes, everything we see is not always as it actually is. We aren't educated about the truth in school, although some people are lucky to be educated about reality and invested in by good parents which can help them not fall into the brainwashing by media, government schooling.

i overdosed on reality unfortunately. I wish i knew precisely what i know now when i was 18. oh well. my life is ruined lol

 

[Chinaski]

Why is that? Abortion changes demographics for one thing, and not necessarily for the better. Legal abortion is about power for the left not about what is best for women

Frankly, the idea that people consider abortion to be a bigger and more worthy hill to fight on than that of, say, universal healthcare free at the point of need is just absurd, it really is. Sometimes a nation gets the government it deserves.

 

[Mrs.O'Leary'sCow]

I'm surprised you are a Bernie, Hillary, and planned parenthood supporter. I'm not saying abortions are not necessary ever, but I would say unrestricted abortion for any reason is harmful to women. Plus they use the fetal tissue to create products that extend life for the wealthy. It alters the relational dynamics between men and women. Basically it promotes promiscuity and prevents marriage. Also promotes single mothers which disadvantages kids who grow up in that situation. It may from the outside look like it's about helping women but the real agenda is much more sinister.

Ok, what is the (sinister) real agenda?

 

[gingerplum]

I'm surprised you are a Bernie, Hillary, and planned parenthood supporter. I'm not saying abortions are not necessary ever, but I would say unrestricted abortion for any reason is harmful to women. Plus they use the fetal tissue to create products that extend life for the wealthy. It alters the relational dynamics between men and women. Basically it promotes promiscuity and prevents marriage. Also promotes single mothers which disadvantages kids who grow up in that situation. It may from the outside look like it's about helping women but the real agenda is much more sinister.

I know you have very strong feelings about abortions based on your posts in another thread. Again, I am sorry for the pain and grief you've experienced. That said, I am staunchly pro-choice, and I see the right to terminate a pregnancy as just another part of legitimate healthcare, not a part of some secretive and sinister anti-woman conspiracy.


I spent a year working in a Level II NICU, I had an abortion as a teenager that I patently refuse to feel shame or guilt about, and I have two gorgeous healthy children of my own, so I think I'm pretty well qualified to also have a strong opinion on this subject.

Agree to disagree. I won't be posting further on this particular topic here.

 

[okyeah]

Ok, what is the (sinister) real agenda?

i haven't thought about it enough to be specific but sometimes things that appear good as an obvious idea have unexpected side effects for everyone.

 

[Final Escape]

Frankly, the idea that people consider abortion to be a bigger and more worthy hill to fight on than that of, say, universal healthcare free at the point of need is just absurd, it really is. Sometimes a nation gets the government it deserves.

I think universal healthcare is definitely an even bigger issue, but I was just explaining how I was harmed by sexual liberation, easy access to abortion.

 

[Final Escape]

Ok, what is the (sinister) real agenda?

Feminism, birth control, abortion got pushed in previously majority white countries to reduce the breeding of whites especially. White people invented civilization and tend to have high iq's. This is a threat to the powers that be because whites have the ability to overthrow and compete with the ruling class. This is a way to get our numbers down and destroy the nuclear and extended family which is also a threat to state power. If you disincentive marriage, people become more vulnerable, especially kids. They got women to go into paid labor which then makes it harder to have kids because you now have to quit your job unless u are ok with not being around much to raise your kids. They wanted to separate kids from mothers to ruin the mother child bond and so the state has more influence on your kid than u do. This is just some of the reasons they have blurred gender roles and pushed feminism. It reduces birth rates especially for whites. The political class no longer need the ability of white people because they have amassed all the wealth and power they need. They want us to interbreed with the third world, and primarily want lower iq groups to rule over, because they won't be able to rise up against tyranny.

 

[Smilla]

Feminism, birth control, abortion got pushed in previously majority white countries to reduce the breeding of whites especially. White people invented civilization and tend to have high iq's. This is a threat to the powers that be because whites have the ability to overthrow and compete with the ruling class. This is a way to get our numbers down and destroy the family which is also a threat to state power. If you disincentive marriage, people become more vulnerable, especially kids. They got women to go into paid labor which then makes it harder to have kids because you now have to quit your job unless u are ok with not being around much to raise your kids. They wanted to separate kids from mothers to ruin the mother child bond and so the state has more influence on your kid than u do. This is just some of the reasons they have blurred gender roles and pushed feminism. It reduces birth rates especially for whites.

Meth is one helluva drug.

 

[Chinaski]

Feminism, birth control, abortion got pushed in previously majority white countries to reduce the breeding of whites especially. White people invented civilization and tend to have high iq's. This is a threat to the powers that be because whites have the ability to overthrow and compete with the ruling class. This is a way to get our numbers down and destroy the family which is also a threat to state power. If you disincentive marriage, people become more vulnerable, especially kids. They got women to go into paid labor which then makes it harder to have kids because you now have to quit your job unless u are ok with not being around much to raise your kids. They wanted to separate kids from mothers to ruin the mother child bond and so the state has more influence on your kid than u do. This is just some of the reasons they have blurred gender roles and pushed feminism. It reduces birth rates especially for whites. The political class no longer need the ability of white people because they have amassed all the wealth and power they need. They want us to interbreed, and primarily want lower iq groups to rule over, because they won't be able to rise up against tyranny.

Fucking hell.

 

[Whatshername]

Feminism, birth control, abortion got pushed in previously majority white countries to reduce the breeding of whites especially. White people invented civilization and tend to have high iq's. This is a threat to the powers that be because whites have the ability to overthrow and compete with the ruling class. This is a way to get our numbers down and destroy the family which is also a threat to state power. If you disincentive marriage, people become more vulnerable, especially kids. They got women to go into paid labor which then makes it harder to have kids because you now have to quit your job unless u are ok with not being around much to raise your kids. They wanted to separate kids from mothers to ruin the mother child bond and so the state has more influence on your kid than u do. This is just some of the reasons they have blurred gender roles and pushed feminism. It reduces birth rates especially for whites. The political class no longer need the ability of white people because they have amassed all the wealth and power they need. They want us to interbreed, and primarily want lower iq groups to rule over, because they won't be able to rise up against tyranny.

Holy... (insert curse word/phrase of choice)

 

[Final Escape]

Fucking hell.

I know right, it's evil shit. Now these plans are more obvious and out in the open as more info gets out there.

 

[Final Escape]

Meth is one helluva drug.

Haha! It sure is

 

[gingerplum]

I know right, it's evil shit. Now these plans are more obvious and out in the open as more info gets out there.

Yes, that's exactly what all of us were thinking.

 

[okyeah]

Feminism, birth control, abortion got pushed in previously majority white countries to reduce the breeding of whites especially. White people invented civilization and tend to have high iq's. This is a threat to the powers that be because whites have the ability to overthrow and compete with the ruling class. This is a way to get our numbers down and destroy the family which is also a threat to state power. If you disincentive marriage, people become more vulnerable, especially kids. They got women to go into paid labor which then makes it harder to have kids because you now have to quit your job unless u are ok with not being around much to raise your kids. They wanted to separate kids from mothers to ruin the mother child bond and so the state has more influence on your kid than u do. This is just some of the reasons they have blurred gender roles and pushed feminism. It reduces birth rates especially for whites. The political class no longer need the ability of white people because they have amassed all the wealth and power they need. They want us to interbreed, and primarily want lower iq groups to rule over, because they won't be able to rise up against tyranny.

i have to disagree with this. u are making it sound like a conspiracy which it is not.

 

[ReadyasEver]

If you really read the Constitution of the US, it is one of the greatest documents ever written. A few paradigms used are slightly archaic for the 21st century, but captures the idea governance among equal members of society very well. 239 years later, it amazes me how we screwed it up so badly. It really shows man's hereditary nature of self protection, how we are capable of great intellectual discourse, emotions, and thought, but still evolved animals nonetheless. This is why true acts and demonstrations of altruism capture us so strongly. We are capable of such acts, but the world and society we have created make of future evolution far more difficult.

 

[Chinaski]

I know right, it's evil shit. Now these plans are more obvious and out in the open as more info gets out there.

At this stage, l would genuinely not be at all surprised to see David lcke jump in this thread.

 

[ReadyasEver]

At this stage, l would genuinely not be at all surprised to see David lcke jump in this thread.

LOL, that would be entertaining.

 

[LiveSlowDieFast]

At this stage, l would genuinely not be at all surprised to see David lcke jump in this thread.

lmao, somebody posting weird-ass far-right conspiracy theories in a thread about political disillusionment is oddly fitting

 

[Smilla]

lmao, somebody posting weird-ass far-right conspiracy theories in a thread about political disillusionment is oddly fitting

Actually, it is fitting, isn't it?

 

[Johnnythefox]

Did someone mention!

 

[Final Escape]

i have to disagree with this. u are making it sound like a conspiracy which it is not.

I don't expect everyone to agree, it was incredibly difficult for me to even take all this in when I first started to put the pieces together. My first introduction to painful truths was from Stefan Molyneux on YouTube. I needed to know what went wrong for me in my life at least the external factors. I needed to understand why it seemed as if there were problems in society that were not being fixed and what was the root cause. I wanted to know why some things seemed backwards in our society lol!

 

[Mrs.O'Leary'sCow]

Feminism, birth control, abortion got pushed in previously majority white countries to reduce the breeding of whites especially. White people invented civilization and tend to have high iq's. This is a threat to the powers that be because whites have the ability to overthrow and compete with the ruling class. This is a way to get our numbers down and destroy the nuclear and extended family which is also a threat to state power. If you disincentive marriage, people become more vulnerable, especially kids. They got women to go into paid labor which then makes it harder to have kids because you now have to quit your job unless u are ok with not being around much to raise your kids. They wanted to separate kids from mothers to ruin the mother child bond and so the state has more influence on your kid than u do. This is just some of the reasons they have blurred gender roles and pushed feminism. It reduces birth rates especially for whites. The political class no longer need the ability of white people because they have amassed all the wealth and power they need. They want us to interbreed with the third world, and primarily want lower iq groups to rule over, because they won't be able to rise up against tyranny.

Thanks for breaking it all down for me. Best of luck in your future endeavors.

 

[Smilla]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

I swear to god if you don't have an actual reason to kill yourself, reading the Wiki on this lunatic will make you suicidal. For fucks sake wtf...

 

[Final Escape]

Did someone mention!
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I love David Icke, although maybe some of his stuff is a little out there. Some of it is definitely on point. I think his main goal is to get people to think and really look at things from different perspectives.

 

[Smilla]

I love David Icke, although maybe some of his stuff is a little out there. Some of it is definitely on point. I think his main goal is to get people to think and really look at things from different perspectives.

Yes, just a wee little "out there"