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fuzzy-clown

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Nov 27, 2022
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I'm possibly catching the bus in the near future and I feel like writing out my reason to die is part of me finding closure which would make me feel more ready to go.

I actually have many reasons to die. Most of them could be solvable or at least bearable if I really wanted to live, besides this one reason: bipolar disorder.

Bipolar 1 sufferers have to take antipsychotics (APs) for the rest of their lives so that they don't have manic/psychotic episodes. I considered writing about what I got myself into during my episodes, but in order to protect my privacy and dignity, I won't. If you're interested, here are some stories about what people get themselves into while manic/psychotic.

The problem with taking APs is they numb emotions and take the excitement out of life. Without medication, I can get excited about stuff such as working on my creative projects, and going on road trips. On medication, there's no excitement in order to motivate me to make progress on my projects, and road trips feel like too much work because it's not balanced out by the excitement I would otherwise feel while spontaneously exploring places. These are just two examples but you can imagine how if you can't get excited about doing anything that requires effort, how can you motivate yourself to do it? If you're numb all the time, is it worth living? Isn't doing stuff that makes you feel good the point of life? You know that "high on life" feeling? I don't get that on APs.

Another big problem with APs is they make me mentally slow, also known as brain fog. I had a job where I had to do intense thinking, and the medication made me so dumb that I couldn't do my job. Thus, I cannot continue in my career while medicated.

So basically I'm stuck. I find it is not worth living while medicated and numb. I hate how I feel on meds. I also cannot live unmedicated because I've tried that and had another episode that wrecked my life even more. I was hoping to live my daily life without medication and only take them when an episode was coming. That didn't work because I didn't realize I was in an episode until after major damage was done. Can't live on meds, can't live without meds. What's there to do besides CTB?

Perhaps since I have a good reason to CTB, I can let unsound/impulsive reasons push me there. For example, there is a lot of stuff I need to do that I've been putting off due to anxiety and depression, and if I CTB, I don't have to do those things.
 
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I'm possibly catching the bus in the near future and I feel like writing out my reason to die is part of me finding closure which would make me feel more ready to go.

I actually have many reasons to die. Most of them could be solvable or at least bearable if I really wanted to live, besides this one reason: bipolar disorder.

Bipolar 1 sufferers have to take antipsychotics (APs) for the rest of their lives so that they don't have manic/psychotic episodes. I considered writing about what I got myself into during my episodes, but in order to protect my privacy and dignity, I won't. If you're interested, here are some stories about what people get themselves into while manic/psychotic.

The problem with taking APs is they numb emotions and take the excitement out of life. Without medication, I can get excited about stuff such as working on my creative projects, and going on road trips. On medication, there's no excitement in order to motivate me to make progress on my projects, and road trips feel like too much work because it's not balanced out by the excitement I would otherwise feel while spontaneously exploring places. These are just two examples but you can imagine how if you can't get excited about doing anything that requires effort, how can you motivate yourself to do it? If you're numb all the time, is it worth living? Isn't doing stuff that makes you feel good the point of life? You know that "high on life" feeling? I don't get that on APs.

Another big problem with APs is they make me mentally slow, also known as brain fog. I had a job where I had to do intense thinking, and the medication made me so dumb that I couldn't do my job. Thus, I cannot continue in my career while medicated.

So basically I'm stuck. I find it is not worth living while medicated and numb. I hate how I feel on meds. I also cannot live unmedicated because I've tried that and had another episode that wrecked my life even more. I was hoping to live my daily life without medication and only take them when an episode was coming. That didn't work because I didn't realize I was in an episode until after major damage was done. Can't live on meds, can't live without meds. What's there to do besides CTB?

Perhaps since I have a good reason to CTB, I can let unsound/impulsive reasons push me there. For example, there is a lot of stuff I need to do that I've been putting off due to anxiety and depression, and if I CTB, I don't have to do those things.
There is a place in history for you... and that place is happening now.




How will you shape your story? Lord Byron left quite a mark, for me. For you, too... "His only legitimate child, Ada Lovelace, was a founding figure in the field of computer programming based on her notes for Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine."


I doubt he had a clue what greatness would come from his impassioned efforts in the marriage bed that night. lol

Buses come around every 15 minutes, or so. There's always another one to catch. Take some time to write your story, friend.
 
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LaVieEnRose

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Jul 23, 2022
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It's terrible how these medications can induce side effects that are just as debilitating as the symptoms they are supposed to treat. APs really messed me up too.

But yes, years of bipolar will wear anyone out.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,571
That sounds like a really awful and tiring situation to be trapped in and your wish to die is completely understandable. I hope that when the time is right for you to leave you find freedom from all suffering.
 
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zeenatax

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Dec 15, 2022
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It seems you are in difficult situation. I feel your pain.
 
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purplehearted

SN re ordered! 🥲
Nov 21, 2022
116
I'm sorry you have to go through this. I also have BP(2). it's hell and a major reason for me wanting to ctb. The highs and lows are so exhausting and just wear you out slowly. I hope things get better for you
 
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jessisme

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Dec 3, 2022
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I'm possibly catching the bus in the near future and I feel like writing out my reason to die is part of me finding closure which would make me feel more ready to go.

I actually have many reasons to die. Most of them could be solvable or at least bearable if I really wanted to live, besides this one reason: bipolar disorder.

Bipolar 1 sufferers have to take antipsychotics (APs) for the rest of their lives so that they don't have manic/psychotic episodes. I considered writing about what I got myself into during my episodes, but in order to protect my privacy and dignity, I won't. If you're interested, here are some stories about what people get themselves into while manic/psychotic.

The problem with taking APs is they numb emotions and take the excitement out of life. Without medication, I can get excited about stuff such as working on my creative projects, and going on road trips. On medication, there's no excitement in order to motivate me to make progress on my projects, and road trips feel like too much work because it's not balanced out by the excitement I would otherwise feel while spontaneously exploring places. These are just two examples but you can imagine how if you can't get excited about doing anything that requires effort, how can you motivate yourself to do it? If you're numb all the time, is it worth living? Isn't doing stuff that makes you feel good the point of life? You know that "high on life" feeling? I don't get that on APs.

Another big problem with APs is they make me mentally slow, also known as brain fog. I had a job where I had to do intense thinking, and the medication made me so dumb that I couldn't do my job. Thus, I cannot continue in my career while medicated.

So basically I'm stuck. I find it is not worth living while medicated and numb. I hate how I feel on meds. I also cannot live unmedicated because I've tried that and had another episode that wrecked my life even more. I was hoping to live my daily life without medication and only take them when an episode was coming. That didn't work because I didn't realize I was in an episode until after major damage was done. Can't live on meds, can't live without meds. What's there to do besides CTB?

Perhaps since I have a good reason to CTB, I can let unsound/impulsive reasons push me there. For example, there is a lot of stuff I need to do that I've been putting off due to anxiety and depression, and if I CTB, I don't have to do those things.

I'm Bipolar 1 with Psychosis and take an anti psychotic also but don't have the same problem with dead/flat feelings you have described. Have you tried other antipsychotics?

P.S: thanks for the link there was much there that I could relate to. xoxox
 
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Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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Have they adjusted the dosages to see if they still get results with less fog?
 
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Wannagonow

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Nov 16, 2022
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I'm also bipolar. Taken Lithium and anti-psychotics for a million years. Yes, brain fog and dulled emotions are a reality both from the medication and the disease. You are not alone. I can't offer any spectacular advice for you. But sometimes it helps just to have your feelings validated and know people understand. I wish you the best.
 
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fuzzy-clown

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Nov 27, 2022
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There is a place in history for you... and that place is happening now.




How will you shape your story? Lord Byron left quite a mark, for me. For you, too... "His only legitimate child, Ada Lovelace, was a founding figure in the field of computer programming based on her notes for Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine."


I doubt he had a clue what greatness would come from his impassioned efforts in the marriage bed that night. lol

Buses come around every 15 minutes, or so. There's always another one to catch. Take some time to write your story, friend.
Thank you so much for those informative, relevant, and interesting articles. I have not read much about those people before and I feel like I can relate to them.

I have done a few creative projects before, but there was nothing that got more reach than being appreciated by only a small group of friends. I would love to do more work, especially work that more people can relate to. But unfortunately, the stress I put on myself for one of my projects was what sent me manic and I had to be hospitalized, after doing many things that affected both me and others in terrible ways.

You are right that there's always another bus to catch. Maybe I am in less of a rush than I thought I was. I just fear that I'm on borrowed time as I don't know when my next destructive episode would be.
 
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fuzzy-clown

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Nov 27, 2022
227
I'm Bipolar 1 with Psychosis and take an anti psychotic also but don't have the same problem with dead/flat feelings you have described. Have you tried other antipsychotics?

P.S: thanks for the link there was much there that I could relate to. xoxox
I'm glad you don't have to suffer from dead/flat feelings.

I have tried 5 different antipsychotics, in addition to 2 mood stabilizers. Unfortunately, each of them have some sort of side effect that I either cannot or do not wish to deal with. There are more medications on the market to try, but I am not hopeful that they will be any better for me as they all work in similar ways. Perhaps I am very picky about feeling a full spectrum of emotions and having them motivate me to work and play.

It is also very grueling to try new medications, as I have to suffer the following:
  • The time it takes to cross-taper off the old medication and onto the new one. This is the time I would suffer extra from being on 2 antipsychotics at once.
  • If the new medication causes side effects, I have to suffer those side effects for quite some time to see if they go away.
  • I would be really hopeful that a new medication is the Holy Grail and that I can live an acceptable and stable life with it. Then, the problems with the new med start to surface and I lose the hope I had. And that brings me here writing about why it's fitting that I CTB.
Have they adjusted the dosages to see if they still get results with less fog?
Yes, I have frequently complained to my psychiatrists about my issues, and had them adjust dosages or switch medications.

I'm also bipolar. Taken Lithium and anti-psychotics for a million years. Yes, brain fog and dulled emotions are a reality both from the medication and the disease. You are not alone. I can't offer any spectacular advice for you. But sometimes it helps just to have your feelings validated and know people understand. I wish you the best.
You're completely right, thanks for validating my feelings.
 
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braziliansuicidegirl

Member
Nov 9, 2020
32
I am bipolar and also take these meds. In the first few months the side effects were worse, I couldn't get any feelings, nothing excited me. Horrible. But after about 6 months and several dosage adjustments, it's been better. I have had no manic/depressive episodes for 3 years.
I still don't feel 100% myself, few things excite me and sometimes I feel empty. But at this point I feel like I'm getting better.
A few years ago being bipolar was one of my main reasons for CTB, today it is not anymore, but now I have other issues to deal with.
 
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peacetime

Student
Dec 27, 2022
114
Doctor couldn't diagnose me because I live a very solitary lifestyle and there's no other person who can corroborate my stories, but reading this and the reddit thread I'm pretty sure I have bipolar as well. I fucked up so much. At this point, assuming I don't get manic again and fuck things up, I could be a 30-year-old with still minimal debt but finally a bachelor's degree. I was suicidal up until a few days ago but once I got my SN, I've begun feeling better since there's an exit. Of course if I get into an episode I might just take it but hey, that'll solve a problem won't it?

But for the time being I'm trying to work on myself. 27 right now, just got a calm, relaxed life now. I'm thinking of actually finishing my degree and if it doesn't work out, become a bus driver. Going to try to get professional help the next time I start noticing symptoms.

Just my take as a possible bipolar sufferer, trying to paddle on.
 
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theboy

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Jul 15, 2022
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I was detected bipolar a few days ago
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I feel identified with your story: No emotions! just a "neutral" feeling all the time... oh...I still remember when I lived without medication....
 
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hellispink

poisonous
May 26, 2022
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I have bdp and we usually rely a lot on antipsychotics. They hand it in like if its water. I was on them and felt like a robot. I couldnt do it anymore. Medication ruins lives yet being without then makes me no functional either. The only solution i see for myself is just stopping everything. It must be even more tiring and exhausting for you.
 
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Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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Where I worked we had patients that complained about that. The difficult part us getting someone to work with you and find the correct levels snd mix of medications.
It will not be perfect. It can reach a level where the negative effects are tolerable when weighed against the positives.
You can improve your life but like almost anything else, it takes work.
 
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morgzfreeman2345

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Feb 14, 2023
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Just diagnosed today. As I heard my own words reflected back to me it was hard to deny. I couldn't feel worse than I do now so maybe medication will help. I've already felt devoid of excitement and passion for months and before that was in a near-mania state making some of the worst decisions of my life.
 
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nosoul

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Apr 1, 2023
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APs and rec drugs, latter prob started the mania, but yeah I'm living week to week may have obstruction of bowels, I almost want that to kill me, not sure it's obstruction.
Maybe there is a forgiveness for bipolar people who ctb.
 
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violetchiwawa

ruff ruff grr
Jan 23, 2023
37
Reading this made me insanely sad because my girlfriend struggles with bipolar disorder and everything you explain sounds so much like her. She's going through a really rough period right now and I'm terrified of the fact that I can't save her. I don't want to lose her but I feel as though I have no power in that. It tears me apart. I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing. I'm gonna go cry
 
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BRosenberger

Member
Apr 22, 2023
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Another big problem with APs is they make me mentally slow, also known as brain fog. I had a job where I had to do intense thinking, and the medication made me so dumb that I couldn't do my job. Thus, I cannot continue in my career while medicated.
I am in the same situation. I am bipolar type 2. The medicines make me slow. I work in a job that requires a lot of thinking and with tight deadlines. And I have missed a few and raised some eyebrows. I am planning to quit my job soon.
I resonate with your post very much.
 
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unnormal9

SOLDIER T.
Apr 12, 2023
1,135
Have they adjusted the dosages to see if they still get results with less fog?
Yeah! And while they're at it, dump poison down the throat too.
Increasing dosage to include overdosing could be another ctb method, at least not through the self this time.
 

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