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StringPuppet

StringPuppet

Lost
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If you believe that looks are all that matters when choosing a partner then there is something wrong with your personality.
It has everything to do with personality and hardly anything to do with looks. When you look at somebody you truly love they are beautiful, even if you didn't find them attractive before you fell in love with them, once you love them you see them clearly and they are perfect, you even love their imperfections. It doesn't matter if they look like brad Pitt or the back of a donkey. Looks are not important

This sounds nice but unfortunately doesn't reflect reality. The poster you were quoting may be a bit rude but there are plenty of respectful people that are alone because of their looks, and if they don't find the rare person that will want them despite their looks then they always will be.
 
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How old are you?
If you think it's about looks, not personality, I'd hazard a guess that you're in your early 20s or younger.
When we reach maturity, we realise looks aren't everything so we look a bit deeper.
So basically when u said "when we reach maturity, we realise looks aren't everything" so that means looks do matter for most of your life which means that looks is everything. You basically proved me right.

If you believe that looks are all that matters when choosing a partner then there is something wrong with your personality.
It has everything to do with personality and hardly anything to do with looks. When you look at somebody you truly love they are beautiful, even if you didn't find them attractive before you fell in love with them, once you love them you see them clearly and they are perfect, you even love their imperfections. It doesn't matter if they look like brad Pitt or the back of a donkey. Looks are not important
You literally just admitted looks mattered. "When you look at someone you truly love they are beautiful" For someone to be beautiful they have to be attractive right? Which is apart of your appearance, so that means appearance matters. If looks didn't matter, OP would be able to have a relationship with women and probably wouldn't even be on this site.
This sounds nice but unfortunately doesn't reflect reality. The poster you were quoting may be a bit rude but there are plenty of respectful people that are alone because of their looks, and if they don't find the rare person that will want them despite their looks then they always will be.
Thank you for being honest.
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
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Nothing wrong with a few extra pounds as long as it's not affecting your health and you feel comfy. Plenty of women like a big cuddly bear to snuggle up with ;)
I've heard of gay men who like that but women? I have no doubt that some do but they hardly admit it. Wish more would.

Also I've noticed that in couples who've been married a while, when the man is fat it's only because he got that way after being married. Before that the dude always looked way better which was part of how they got married in the first place.
 
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Spiral

Spiral

Experienced
Jan 22, 2021
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This sounds nice but unfortunately doesn't reflect reality. The poster you were quoting may be a bit rude but there are plenty of respectful people that are alone because of their looks, and if they don't find the rare person that will want them despite their looks then they always will be.
It reflects only my reality because that is all I am qualified to speak of but I know I am not the only person who feels this way. I am ugly and people have loved me and I have loved ugly people and it's true that It wasn't love at first sight, I wasn't attracted to them at all.... Until I knew their personality and then I was attracted and the face that I loved was beautiful in my eyes.
Of course there are circumstances where this doesn't apply and I'm not saying it's easy for ugly people, but having a beautiful personality gives you a much better chance of finding love :)
So basically when u said "when we reach maturity, we realise looks aren't everything" so that means looks do matter for most of your life which means that looks is everything. You basically proved me right.


You literally just admitted looks mattered. "When you look at someone you truly love they are beautiful" For someone to be beautiful they have to be attractive right? Which is apart of your appearance, so that means appearance matters. If looks didn't matter, OP would be able to have a relationship with women and probably wouldn't even be on this site.

Thank you for being honest.
Errrr no. You are twisting peoples words to make them fit your agenda.
What I mean is that if someone is ugly but I am in love with them I will feel love when I look at them and in my eyes they become beautiful because I know them and I'm not only looking at the outside anymore. It's hard to explain but it's the truth nonetheless
I've heard of gay men who like that but women? I have no doubt that some do but they hardly admit it. Wish more would.

Also I've noticed that in couples who've been married a while, when the man is fat it's only because he got that way after being married. Before that the dude always looked way better which was part of how they got married in the first place.
People in a happy relationship usually gain weight together because they are comfy together and enjoy things like food and drinks together. Trust me it's not only the man who gains weight after marriage xD
 
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x~Sophia~x

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So basically when u said "when we reach maturity, we realise looks aren't everything" so that means looks do matter for most of your life which means that looks is everything. You basically proved me right.
I said that looks matter until you reach maturity, which is usually around the age of 24 - 26 which is hardly "most of your life".
I'n our teens we usually go for looks because we are mostly attracted to how people look, and we don't want our friends to laugh at us for going for someone who isn't attractive.
As we mature, we realise that looks aren't everything and we tend to meet people in social settings, it's then we realise that chatting to someone we would usually not 'fancy', that we do fancy them because they're interesting and they make us feel kind of special... and that's how love happens as we mature!
 
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death137

death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
1,166
@Spiral, I understand what you are saying but how many women do you think give an ugly or short man a chance to show his personality? Most don't and even those who do in most case she will stop being with him. Only tiny percentage of women don't care about looks. Most men also care about looks but they aren't as picky as women.
 
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lifesucksxoxo

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Nov 3, 2020
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I said that looks matter until you reach maturity, which is usually around the age of 24 - 26 which is hardly "most of your life".
I'n our teens we usually go for looks because we are mostly attracted to how people look, and we don't want our friends to laugh at us for going for someone who isn't attractive.
As we mature, we realise that looks aren't everything and we tend to meet people in social settings, it's then we realise that chatting to someone we would usually not 'fancy', that we do fancy them because they're interesting and they make us feel kind of special... and that's how love happens as we mature!
After 30 your life is meaningless..

1-25 is pretty much the most important part of your life.. so basically you are revealing to me looks are important in the most critical stages of someones life.

Literally if I was good looking I wouldn't be here.
@Spiral, I understand what you are saying but how many women do you think give an ugly or short man a chance to show his personality? Most don't and even those who do in most case she will stop being with him. Only tiny percentage of women don't care about looks. Most men also care about looks but they aren't as picky as women.
 
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x~Sophia~x

Always give 100% - unless you’re donating blood.
Sep 10, 2020
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I give up... :hihi:
 
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Spiral

Spiral

Experienced
Jan 22, 2021
269
Just to add: this obviously doesn't work on bs hookup apps like tinder etc but I personally wouldn't use them, I wouldn't buy a computer after only seeing a few pics so I why would I choose the person I want to spend my life with based on so little information? Everybody is putting their best foot forward, if your looks are your best foot then of course that is how you will find a partner but if for example you are a musician or a scientist you would be better off meeting someone who either shares that interest or thinks it's cool that you do that so your "dating app" equivalent is open mic night or the science fair. Show your best self to an audience who appreciate what you have to offer <3
 
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in hell out soon

in hell out soon

Student
Apr 27, 2020
114
Yeah that's normal.
You don't feel desirable so you start thinking about your flaws, which starts you ruminating, which loops around etc - that isn't good for your self esteem and in turn that can make your depression worse.

Depression is never just the one thing, I find. Your problems are still valid.

also when I read this title I thought it was gonna be someone threatening someone to commit suicide if they wouldn't get with them. I am glad it isn't because that is emotional manipulation and a bit shitty.
 
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Spiral

Spiral

Experienced
Jan 22, 2021
269
@Spiral, I understand what you are saying but how many women do you think give an ugly or short man a chance to show his personality? Most don't and even those who do in most case she will stop being with him. Only tiny percentage of women don't care about looks. Most men also care about looks but they aren't as picky as women.
As long as you meet them in a situation where you have time to chat (aka not an app or randomly approaching them in a bar) then I think quite a lot of women would. I would.
It's much easier when you already have something in common to talk about that's why I said in my last post to aim for an audience that appreciates what you have to offer, if you meet a girl at an art gallery you already know to talk to her about art and it won't be weird
Ps. If men are not as picky as women why don't men have to wax all their body hair off, get boob jobs, designer vagina, big butt, wear makeup, walk around in high heels make ridiculous effort with outfits, walk and talk a certain way, not fart or burp etc the list is endless, I am sorry but I have a lot of dude friends and some if them even complain about girls fanny flaps being messy like Wtaf lol get back to me when you are hairless, covered in fake tan, hairspray and makeup with a G-string up your ass and walking on ridiculous stilt shoes :p
 
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Antigonish

Antigonish

Mage
Sep 19, 2020
593
Try getting a guy. Might just be out your element.
 
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death137

death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
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As long as you meet them in a situation where you have time to chat (aka not an app or randomly approaching them in a bar) then I think quite a lot of women would. I would.
It's much easier when you already have something in common to talk about that's why I said in my last post to aim for an audience that appreciates what you have to offer, if you meet a girl at an art gallery you already know to talk to her about art and it won't be weird
I don't think a lot of women would but I believe you in your case and I wish most women were like you. The girl who contact me 2-3 days ago doesn't seem to care about looks. We have some personality similarities and she said if we become close she will definitely visit me in my country. I'm in shock because I always believed I'm not worthy of relationship. I don't blame that most ppl give more importance to looks because I read its natural thing but I just wish nature wasn't like that. Being ugly or short in this world is very difficult.
 
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x~Sophia~x

x~Sophia~x

Always give 100% - unless you’re donating blood.
Sep 10, 2020
1,360
When I initially met my ex fiance, (it was a blind date, set up by my best friend and her boyfriend) I was shocked that my best friend would even consider that I'd fancy him. We were pushed together, in a packed pub... my friend left us alone and I was horrified, I felt insulted that she would think I would fancy him. He wasn't good looking at all, and he was so bloody scruffy - I was dressed to the nines, as always.
Anyway, we chatted for a while and he was so witty and funny... all of a sudden he became so attractive to me.
I was with this man for 3 years, he is the father of my child and he was the love of my life :aw:
 
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Spiral

Spiral

Experienced
Jan 22, 2021
269
I don't think a lot of women would but I believe you in your case and I wish most women were like you. The girl who contact me 2-3 days ago doesn't seem to care about looks. We have some personality similarities and she said if we become close she will definitely visit me in my country. I'm in shock because I always believed I'm not worthy of relationship. I don't blame that most ppl give more importance to looks because I read its natural thing but I just wish nature wasn't like that. Being ugly or short in this world is very difficult.
I am glad you have met somebody special :) everybody deserves love, of course you are worthy, it just takes patience and also the willingness to take a risk and follow your heart :)
The importance of looks is fleeting. It's the same with everything in life, imagine you are in a book shop and you see a book with a cool cover that attracts you to pick it up and read the synopsis on the back, you may find that it sounds boring as hell and choose not to buy it, you might instead rummage through the shelves until you find a book with a plain cover but the synopsis is exciting which book will you buy?
People are like books in this regard, I want the ugly book with the interesting story, the other book is attractive but I don't want to read it because it's boring and books are not meant to sit on shelves just to look pretty.... Neither are people xD
 
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Cherry Crumpet

Cherry Crumpet

Hiraeth
May 7, 2018
280
They aren't. It's statistically proven. Women have the highest standards ever. Asian women don't even date their own race.

Why are u lying? "It can be super hard for BOTH" No it can't. Deformed females have it easier than the average male. Women are the problem in the dating scene

Why are you so hostile? "Deformed females." "Women are the problem..."

It has to do with looks. Not personality.

if you think all relationships are based on looks and not personality you haven't had much experience in relationships in general. Of course looks play a big part, but it's not the only part.

After 30 your life is meaningless..

1-25 is pretty much the most important part of your life.. so basically you are revealing to me looks are important in the most critical stages of someones life.

Literally if I was good looking I wouldn't be here.

lol you don't turn to dust when you hit 30. I promise.

Believe what you want. It sounds like you have some issues to work through. I truthfully do hope you are able to pull yourself out of the incel viewpoint. Good luck.
 
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Bergamot

Bergamot

Sorry babe i love you..
Jan 25, 2021
125
I think not have a GF is better then have one...you know why I'm depressed and Suicidal ? The reason is my gf, she promised me lot of things promised marry me and live with me like normal couple...and later 2 years she change and become brutal, sadic, bad heartless and do lot of bad things to me...she treated me like trash,like nothing but she don't wanted break with me so I soffer for 6 month until now to wait she changes and us become normale like before but...the only things I get until now is "I miss our things , I miss you , I want meet with you , I want date with you " but in fact she still not call me my love like before and not reply when I say "I love you"...All my friends says I need break up with her and thinking/live my life but if she is my life how I can ? I'm in a bad situation because I'm a scared , fragile person and I'm very weak that why I not break with she..I want only return happy like before if I can't the only way to disappear forever.
 
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OnlyTheWind

OnlyTheWind

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Aug 29, 2020
962
>tfw can't approach girls for fear of being interpreted as a creep

Going outside hurts.
 
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BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
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What is this thread? We have normie women with social lives and many ex boyfriends trying to communicate with men that suffer from neurological disorders, don't have any friends or are NEETs- and are about to actually ctb. You are not living in the same reality, give up. If there are women pushing 30 or 40 without ever having had a boyfriend, you go ahead and reply. If there are NEET women that tried Tinder for years without any matches, you go ahead and reply.
 
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Amumu

Amumu

Ctb - temporary solution for a permanent problem
Aug 29, 2020
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It's always a matter of cause and consequence, right....

Some people wouldn't be so depressed if they hadn't been single and ugly as teenagers and young adults.
Both aspects definitely affect our personality and mental health afterwards.
Then it's difficult getting rid of mental disorders, even with a partner and better looks.

But it's always worth trying.
It's also difficult understanding each other when we didn't have the same life experiences.
Last time I talk about that tbh, I always say the same things, it seems I'm dumb. Take care.
 
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Makko

Makko

Iä!
Jan 17, 2021
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If chattel slaves were still a thing, I'd maybe buy one. I don't get how people can want to live together on equal terms and have to compromise on everything.
 
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saltshaker

salt shaker, rule breaker
Jan 29, 2021
402
I met a girl who was perfect for me about a year ago, she was very pretty and seemed to be into me and i fucked it up by panicking and bailing. Still kicking myself over it.

Maybe i'm better off this way, if i had continued to fall for her and it didn't work out it would have destroyed me.
 
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OnlyTheWind

OnlyTheWind

Serena / Meatball head
Aug 29, 2020
962
You know, it's so fucking unfair. Ever since I was in highschool, all I wanted was to hold hands with a girl and hug her. Only later did those ideals become corrupted through loneliness, bitterness, the downward spiral of mental illness and everything else. I just wanted something nice, and instead I'm the guilty one because others had it easy while I either had no chance or couldn't see any that might have been there.
 
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Q-Dust

Q-Dust

Am literally a rhododendron
Jun 9, 2019
51
I hate seeing couples happy, So there's that
 
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Spiral

Spiral

Experienced
Jan 22, 2021
269
What is this thread? We have normie women with social lives and many ex boyfriends trying to communicate with men that suffer from neurological disorders, don't have any friends or are NEETs- and are about to actually ctb. You are not living in the same reality, give up. If there are women pushing 30 or 40 without ever having had a boyfriend, you go ahead and reply. If there are NEET women that tried Tinder for years without any matches, you go ahead and reply.
It's a bit unfair to label us normie women as if we are not also here for our own reasons. I am also suicidal. I took the time out of my day to support the OP and reinforce their hope of meeting someone despite the fact that somebody else with a lot of hate towards women showed up and derailed their thread a bit. I have also read the OPs older posts detailing their social position and it is currently exactly the same as my own.
Also do not assume that just because I HAD relationships when I was younger that I have a social life now. Not all of us are only 20 years old, some of us had some extra years and in that time we did a few more things. I am now a recluse, agoraphobic and my mental health is a mess. I will Ctb soon. However, if I decide to share a tiny piece of wisdom before I go please don't kick me for it.
There is hope for the OP and I stand by my advice because it's true. Go get em OP <3
 
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