Discussion Couldn't breathe after 20g table salt in 50ml water till drank more water

[Disintegration]

So I figured to try a table salt test to familiarize with part of the symptoms one may get by drinking SN and overall I'd say it wasn't that bad. Lost a few drops while mixing cause the cup was small but didn't see any difference before and after. Numbed the taste buds with toothpaste and it helped a bit.

Definitely the saltiest thing I've ever drunk but the aftertaste disappeared pretty quicky - after a minute or two.

Immediately after drinking, it felt like my throat closed down and couldn't take a single breath. Didn't wait very long and drank a little water after about 10 seconds. If it happens drinking SN and you don't have any extra water (not salty), in my situation, the saltiness could block the airways for some time. I imagine it could take more than 10 seconds but I'm not sure cause didn't wait longer than that.

Then started salivating A LOT non stop for about 5 minutes. The throat started to burn, felt a bit nauseous, low stomach discomfort, and a little dizzy but nothing too bad.

Imagining a scenario of drinking another SN mixture in case of vomiting was hard but possible, though as other members mentioned, one may just vomit it instantly, so no guarantee.

The next time I test it, I'm planning to drink it in 3-4 gulps instead of 1 big and not sure about the "quick shot to the back of throat" practice. Will try that and normally to see which is more comfortable.

Is it normal to be unable to breathe for 10 seconds or more after drinking salty things like that?

I drank 25 grams about a month ago, it's posted somewhere on here. I didn't have trouble breathing at all. Definitely salty, it burns, unpleasant, I barfed almost immediately, felt like crap for a week or two after, dehydrated, salty after taste.. can still remember how salty and the burning in my stomach. Obviously everyone will react differently... it's stupid, don't recommend it.

 

[angie]

Hold up... If ingesting too much salt can be fatal, then why aren't people just eating salt to CTB?

I was thinking exactly the same

 

[x-Ace-x]

I drank 25 grams about a month ago, it's posted somewhere on here. I didn't have trouble breathing at all. Definitely salty, it burns, unpleasant, I barfed almost immediately, felt like crap for a week or two after, dehydrated, salty after taste.. can still remember how salty and the burning in my stomach. Obviously everyone will react differently... it's stupid, don't recommend it.

25g in what amount of water?

It could've been, like @autumnal said, caused because it was too thick and there wasn't much space left for air. I think it makes sense, cause after I drank a little of water (tried to drink as little as possible, I'd say one or two small gulps), I immediately could breathe again.

Agree, it's not recommended but a big unknown. Cause if it happens drinking SN and you have no water, then it's no fun.

 

[autumnal]

I was thinking exactly the same

Because it is neither quick nor peaceful.

Agree, it's not recommended but a big unknown. Cause if it happens drinking SN and you have no water, then it's no fun.

For the love of...I honestly don't know how to explain this any more simply. It's not 'a big unknown'. It definitely will not happen with SN, because SN is twice as soluble.

 

[aukguy]

Bottom line that is you arent comparing the same thing - all you are doing is 'matching' the feeling of drinking something salty but you could do that with a 1-3g amount of salt.

 

[Disintegration]

25g in what amount of water?

It could've been, like @autumnal said, caused because it was too thick and there wasn't much space left for air. I think it makes sense, cause after I drank a little of water (tried to drink as little as possible, I'd say one or two small gulps), I immediately could breathe again.

Agree, it's not recommended but a big unknown. Cause if it happens drinking SN and you have no water, then it's no fun.

50 ml water

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

after I drank a little of water (tried to drink as little as possible, I'd say one or two small gulps), I immediately could breathe again.

When a little bit of SN got in my system, the effects were almost immediately alleviated by water.

When I did the salt experiment and aborted by drinking water, the breathing symptoms were no longer an issue, but for several hours I was drained and needed to rest and recover.

 

[Quarky00]

When I decide to CTB I'll drink the SN dissolved in 200ml of water.

This will make you vomit more , and less SN enters intestines and blood . There is a reason for fasting before and using small amounts of water . Members who used more water -- vomited more and their ctb failed .

Sodium nitrite (SN) is twice as soluble as sodium chloride (regular table/kitchen salt). So this means SN dissolves twice as readily in water as kitchen salt does. The reason why your throat was blocked was likely because you drank a mixture of something twice as 'thick' as SN would have been. For this reason, there is nothing to be learned from your experience that is in any way relevant to the SN method.

It could've been, like @autumnal said, caused because it was too thick and there wasn't much space left for air.

Solubility is one thing , viscosity is another , and it shouldn't have caused that . I can't speculate , sounds like gag reflex from stomach and throat receptors -- tightening of upper esophagus sphincter and/or perhaps constriction of pharynx -- similar to (but not the same as) allergic reaction .

I wouldn't have said there is nothing to be learned because of the saltiness , nausea , and dizziness , which are quite unique . Members mentioned SN burps and I had salty burps (with some regurgitative aftertaste). But I wouldn't recommend making it a practice . Death from 20g NaCl is rare and mitigated by water intake , though avoid if renal problems , hypertension , heart , etc -- research your conditions first and try smaller amounts (like 10g) . Salts are old practice for constipation so this not something new , though not all salts are the same , and this practice is discouraged due to side effects etc .

 

[x-Ace-x]

This will make you vomit more , and less SN enters intestines and blood . There is a reason for fasting before and using small amounts of water . Members who used more water -- vomited more and their ctb failed .



Solubility is one thing , viscosity is another , and it shouldn't have caused that . I can't speculate , sounds like gag reflex from stomach and throat receptors -- tightening of upper esophagus sphincter and/or perhaps constriction of pharynx -- similar to (but not the same as) allergic reaction .

I wouldn't have said there is nothing to be learned because of the saltiness , nausea , and dizziness , which are quite unique . Members mentioned SN burps and I had salty burps (with some regurgitative aftertaste). But I wouldn't recommend making it a practice . Death from 20g NaCl is rare and mitigated by water intake , though avoid if renal problems , hypertension , heart , etc -- research your conditions first and try smaller amounts (like 10g) . Salts are old practice for constipation so this not something new , though not all salts are the same , and this practice is discouraged due to side effects etc .

Do you think I should try to do the same with 10g (or 5g) salt in 50ml water? This way I could test if the throat blocks again, but as others mentioned, I wouldn't learn much cause I'd need to swallow 20g SN in 50ml water later anyway. Definitely will bring some water with me.

 

[Quarky00]

Do you think I should try to do the same with 10g (or 5g) salt in 50ml water? This way I could test if the throat blocks again, but as others mentioned, I wouldn't learn much cause I'd need to swallow 20g SN in 50ml water later anyway. Definitely will bring some water with me.

I think you've already done your salt test , why cause further distress to your stomach / body / kidneys I don't think we will learn something new about this throat block .

Some extra water after SN could be good suggestion , small amount .

 

[x-Ace-x]

When a little bit of SN got in my system, the effects were almost immediately alleviated by water.

When I did the salt experiment and aborted by drinking water, the breathing symptoms were no longer an issue, but for several hours I was drained and needed to rest and recover.

Could you tell me what kind of 'breathing symptoms' you mean? Like I described or different ones?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Could you tell me what kind of 'breathing symptoms' you mean? Like I described or different ones?

See the post I linked in comment 23 for details. I would say it was asthmatic.