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noname223

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Someone in this forum analyzed in Pointed way terrorists in a thread of mine. The title sums it up in a short Way.

And actually for incel terrorists like Eliot Rodger there might be some truth in it. I think in this instance it seems clear. Would this be an argument in favor of legalizing prostitution all over the World? Would this be enough or is paid sex not the same?

I think Ted Kaczynski could not be stopped that way. What about Luigi Mangione? One could only speculate lol.
 
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DivineSpark

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I want more than just sex.
 
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ppl natr hav sx no prblm hav homo etc hpn mdrn human noany this no only trr this resn war etc see consar ppl atk othre suprt war etc do all awfl lif resn fake way lif human v diff natr
 
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Nov 13, 2023
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even if they did it would never be enough. Nothing will be enough for them as long as they have their mindset. It will only keep getting more severe and hurt more people, including themselves

luigi.. he was just mad at the government/political state. kid already had everything in his life
 
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bankai

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No, it wouldn't make a difference. prostitutes are available for everyone already. These guys couldn't get regular women or at least they expected the regular women to just bow down to them. it wouldn't change anything and also these people like the ones you mentioned in your original post have deep rooted mental issues that go way beyond women.
 
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Average Joe

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That's a question I never thought i'd see.
I don't think sex would change much if anything for these people, terrorists have many different motives but I don't think blue balls is on the list.

I do reckon legalised prostitution would be a good change for the world, hoping that it helps prevents or greatly reduces sex trafficking, slavery and abuse.
 
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cemeteryismyhome

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Mar 15, 2025
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These questions are hilarious. But I will take it as serious because this is the internet and it's hard to tell. I don't think it would matter one way or the other. Legalized prostitution is tricky. It's immoral in my opinion but laws and morality are not the same thing. I don't know how to balance people's rights to freedoms, with their responsibilities to others who are affected. For example, if a man has a wife and kids, it's hurtful to his family (even if they don't know). All I can say for sure is this: I will not let myself be a terrorist, and, I refuse to ever see a prostitute.
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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I think for incel terrorists it is not primarily the sexual pleasure. They define their whole identity with having sex or not. They develop a resentment against women and against society. It is for them a sacred Status symbol. I think Eliot Rodger makes that clear.

It is an example of toxic masculinity in its worst Form.

For the average terrorist it was a joke. But there is this anecdote of Luigi Mangione He could not perform Sex because of a botched surgery and people speculated online that this sparked his resentment against the pharma/medical industry.
 
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GeminiButter

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In the nicest way possible, I've come to realise that most people on here have very little understanding of what sex work is and how the different legal models work. If you don't know, take a look at this information from a sex worker collective in the UK. Legalisation is not the same as decriminalisation and the way that some people talk about sex workers on this site honestly does make me feel sick, but that's a conversation for another time https://www.swarmcollective.org/about-swarm/

Misogyny is a lot deeper than just wanting sex and the men who commit these horrific acts of violence are not entitled to sex or intimacy, imo any arguments about whether they wouldn't do the kinds of things they've done that doesn't keep the blame squarely on them is not starting from the right place imo.
 
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noname223

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In the nicest way possible, I've come to realise that most people on here have very little understanding of what sex work is and how the different legal models work. If you don't know, take a look at this information from a sex worker collective in the UK. Legalisation is not the same as decriminalisation and the way that some people talk about sex workers on this site honestly does make me feel sick, but that's a conversation for another time https://www.swarmcollective.org/about-swarm/

Misogyny is a lot deeper than just wanting sex and the men who commit these horrific acts of violence are not entitled to sex or intimacy, imo any arguments about whether they wouldn't do the kinds of things they've done that doesn't keep the blame squarely on them is not starting from the right place imo.
I think the question "would prostitution solve the problem" is sort of a naive question. But in some ways naivety can dismantle ideologies in political contexts. I wanted to allude to the deeper roots for this phenomenon. And it was a question for incel members on here to get first Hand information.

In Germany there is a politics YouTuber Jung and Naiv. (Young and Naive). He asks dumb/naive questions to politicians and sometimes it achieves the Former mentioned goal.
I want sex hello

what the hell is this ???
OH and for op, yeah probably lol.
She is disabled read the text on her profile.


I probably did not catch the full essence of this smart comment but my thread fulfilled its goal to get more attention for it. Is this excuse good enough? This Was the Post I was refering to.
I did a bit of homework on the situation and have commented a bit elsewhere.

In short, the young man struck me as having very similar in personality to Ted Kaczynski. There seemed to be some unspecified past trauma in the picture combined with a towering intelligence (particularly his talent as a chemist). The interplay of mental illness and high IQ gave rise to his fierce arrogance. He stated that only one person in the world was capable of engaging at his lofty level. That friend was a young woman who died recently, resulting in his rapid unravelling, even unto attempted murder and suicide.

He engaged in a lot of pseudo-philosophical ramblings, identifying strongly with a slew of internet labels (which I have described as cults) that seem to derive from Reddit and such places. The common theme was a genuine respect for nature (including veganism) but a total and absolute disregard for human life, both his own and others. I would describe him as radicalised inasmuch as there was no doubt in his mind that murder was justified with respect to his opinions of humanity.

My own controversial take is this: while it is relieving that this guy's violence is not condoned here, his actual beliefs are uncomfortably familiar. Every other thread on here is along the lines of 'should we eliminate all life on Earth?' or 'is all life bad?' or 'is human procreation the ultimate evil?' and on and on it goes, day and night.

In the cases that I've seen, the purportedly philosophers who claim to have figured out life are sorely lacking life experience outside of sitting in front of their computers, and angry because they are lonely. They lack the introspection to direct their anger at root causes (past abusers, illness, their own mistakes, or whatever else). Frankly, if the same people had better sex lives, their entire 'philosophy' would instantaneously dissipate. In my view, this whole doomer cult is all juvenile.

This anti-life propaganda bears no resemblance to legitimate suicide-related issues around giving suffering people a right to a dignified and peaceful death. If anything, it is directly counterproductive by portraying us as a bunch of weirdos incapable of rational engagement with the outside world. Worse, the echo chamber can be an ingredient in radicalisation, though in most cases it would merely accelerate a young person's inclination towards suicide, as opposed to acting out violently towards others as happened in this case.

I don't think anything will change since the purportedly philosophical stance seems to be supported by the site's admin at the highest level. So, just like the philosophers, I am 'just venting'.
 
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RoseGirl

RoseGirl

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May 8, 2025
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are you man or woman? I think for women it is easy to get laid.
As a man i was a 10 so it was easy to get layed...now im like a 3.5 lol...
Oh yeah bc Im a girl now
 
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WhiteRabbit

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I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
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I don't think we should be sending misogynistic psychopaths to vulnerable sex workers, and no, I don't think it would stop them.
 
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pollux

Knight of Infinite Resignation
May 24, 2024
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Statistical analysis of terrorist groups' longevity, aims, methods and successes reveal that groups are self-contradictory and self-sabotaging, generally ineffective; common stereotypes like terrorists being poor or ultra-skilled are false. Superficially appealing counter-examples are discussed and rejected. Data on motivations and the dissolution of terrorist groups are brought into play and the surprising conclusion reached: terrorism is a form of socialization or status-seeking.


That is for terror groups though. For "lone wolf" type of terrorists, I would assume it's more about status-seeking and identity-seeking.

Any talk about "revenge" or "change" is most likely either insanity or rationalization.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I do reckon legalised prostitution would be a good change for the world, hoping that it helps prevents or greatly reduces sex trafficking, slavery and abuse.

It's an interesting idea. I suppose legalising it and strictly regulating it would hopefully mean people's welfair would be better taken care of. There again, what industries don't exploit workers if they can? Even if they are legal?

I'm not sure about the principle overall though. Legalising it legitimizes it more. So- more demmand presumably- which creates an even bigger market for the illegal type I imagine. Not sure really.

Plus- how far do you go legally? Surely, there will still be some appetites it won't be legal to satisfy. I doubt it would eliminate the illegal type all together. I also think that feeding an addiction obviously makes it grow. Plus, if it's dark to begin with, there's a chance it could grow even darker.

I also have similar concerns to @WhiteRabbit . Maybe it would help them to let off some steam but- what would we actually be doing here? Offering women up as objects to be used and possibly, abused? Will that really do much to improve their misogyny towards women?

There can sometimes be something darker going on too. There have been serial killers who used prostitutes themselves. They make some claim about it being immoral etc. but then, can't resist it either. Then, they seem to punish the women in the most brutal way possible.

It's like they hate being so controlled by their sexual/ relational need for women. Then, they hate being exploited for that need when women charge for it. If they resent those things, it's not hard to imagine where that resentment would fester.

I found @Pluto 's contribution interesting though OP, on your previous thread. Their cat memes are always on point and funny but, I've missed their reasoning around here.

I think they could well be right regarding the more incel, hateful stuff. I suppose having more sex and relationships would legitimise them more in their own minds. Again though, it troubles me- at what cost? Why should a woman want or have to be with someone who thinks so badly of them? (Not all are misogynistic of course but some, certainly are.)

That's often my feeling though. It may not be their lack of looks, height or weath that put women off. It may well be their hostile, misogynistic attitude.

Of course, which came first is harder to determine- the hostility putting people off having sex/ relationships with them or the prolongued no sex making them hostile to begin with. Like a chicken and egg scenario.

I still find the expectation/ entitlement part disturbing though. A desire for it is one thing. A lot of us will have experienced that but to feel owed it. How can you ultimately? This is another person you're demanding something of. Should gay men get angry with them because they won't let them f*ck them?

Plus, just giving them it, effectively offering women to them without them having to change simply condones their desires/ behaviour. I also agree with others that it's questionable it would actually make them change. I suspect they'd still be angry they are paying for it and that good looking people who they assume are more able to make money either don't need to pay for it or, can afford 'prettier' prostitutes or prostitutes that will perform more extreme acts for them.

I'm not sure this does actually have so much bearing on this most recent case though. I suppose a morbid curiosity had me looking through his posts. I'm pretty sure he spoke of being asexual at one point and actually being repulsed by sex. Not sure, maybe I remembered that wrongly. I think this guy just detested life being brought into this world. So, being appalled by sex would actually fit better in a way.
 
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Pale_Rider

Wizard
Apr 21, 2025
654
I dont know a lot about the incel movement, but I think prostitution is a good way to help late bloomers gain confidence. I know I've had, and continue to have that problem. I also seen Nevada prostitutes testify to that fact, so I l now there is something there. True mass killers are in a very low percentile, but those issues are common to people who have been through abuse is my opinion.

At the end of the day idk that anything really matters. The world will do what it wants, amd individuals will do what they want. Evil will always exist.
 
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