Correct my new plan SN please

[Defenestration]

Hi, i do again my post in english

sorry to bother you again, but I know there are often changes or new developments in SN's plans…

This is a one-day protocol, because after two days, I might give up halfway through. I've already taken metoclopramide…

Is it okay to take metoclopramide for just one day?

I'm not allergic.

Day 0: Metoclopramide 10 mg at 8 a.m. on an empty stomach. I am NOT taking my usual morning medications (150 mg sertraline + 400 mg carbamazepine + 10 mg diazepam)… I'm not taking them!

- At noon, I finish my meal around 1:15 p.m. (last lunch with my family; I'll try not to eat too much).

Metoclopramide 10 mg at 4 p.m. after lunch. I drink very little water at noon. I neither eat nor drink between 1:15 PM and 11:15 PM… a 10-hour fast.

I also don't take any psychiatric medication in the evening.

- 11:00 PM: 1000 mg of painkiller
- 11:15 PM: Metoclopramide 3 x 10 mg
- 11:45 PM: Diazepam 3 x 10 mg, to be dissolved under the tongue. I've been taking it daily for the past two or three years, 10 mg in the morning and 10 mg in the evening… I don't want to take too much so I can properly prepare my drinks afterward.

Preparing three drinks between 11:45 PM and 12:15 AM. This takes 30 minutes… 10 minutes per drink to weigh, mix, take my time, etc.

25 g of SN (weighed) mixed with 50 ml of water (measured with a pitcher). If the water level is too low, I add 20 ml. I've prepared 3 glasses...

This SN (Symbiotic Culture Of Bacteria and Yeast) hasn't been tested, but people have died from it. I received it in November 2024, but it's still sealed.

12:30 AM: I drink the first glass. I rinse my mouth with mouthwash to remove the taste. I get into a semi-sitting, semi-reclining position to be more comfortable and avoid vomiting.
I have a bedpan next to me to vomit in.

If I vomit, I drink the second glass (at most the second glass), and if I vomit again, the third.

I will be alone at least from 12:30 AM to 10:30 AM... so a minimum of 10 hours.

No need for antacids. I read what Nitzschke said. No propranolol (I've been taking it for 3 years).

I read Stan and Vizzy's messages. Thank you so much.

Ok?

Thank you very much.

 

[tooafraidtodiez]

Sounds okay but maybe just get a Lolipop. Accidentally swallowing the mouthwash might ruin the plan. For me I'll be taking 7mg of alprazolam instead. Good luck and may you find the peace you are looking for

 

[babyneo1]

Sounds okay but maybe just get a Lolipop. Accidentally swallowing the mouthwash might ruin the plan. For me I'll be taking 7mg of alprazolam instead. Good luck and may you find the peace you are looking for

Why lollipop? Won't you swallow the taste?

 

[Defenestration]

T

Sounds okay but maybe just get a Lolipop. Accidentally swallowing the mouthwash might ruin the plan. For me I'll be taking 7mg of alprazolam instead. Good luck and may you find the peace you are looking for

Thanks I don't have alprazolam...fear that if i take lot of benzo... exhausting to do 3 glasses and errors

 

[tooafraidtodiez]

Why lollipop? Won't you swallow the taste?

IDK really, many people recommends them and one guy who succeed also use lolipop in his protocol.

 

[babyneo1]

IDK really, many people recommends them and one guy who succeed also use lolipop in his protocol.

How to use it properly? So you don't vomit?

 

[Defenestration]

Comment l'utiliser correctement ? Pour éviter de vomir ?

It seems me amazing

 

[Defenestration]

Other correction ?

 

[Defenestration]

Thanks others advices ?

 

[Defenestration]

Up

 

[Defenestration]

@vak happy to see you

 

[Leorio Paradinight]

Sounds okay but maybe just get a Lolipop. Accidentally swallowing the mouthwash might ruin the plan. For me I'll be taking 7mg of alprazolam instead. Good luck and may you find the peace you are looking for

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but how did you decide on that exact dose? Do you have experience taking alprazolam and you have a level of sedation you're shooting for? If so, what is it?

 

[vak]

@vak happy to see you

Likewise, I wish you the best of luck

 

[Defenestration]

Je ne veux pas détourner la conversation, mais comment avez-vous déterminé cette dose précise ? Avez-vous déjà pris de l'alprazolam et recherchez-vous un niveau de sédation particulier ? Si oui, lequel ?

Yes say us please

 

[chudpolonais]

good luck in achieving peace

 

[_Gollum_]

Seems like a lot of meto for one day? The 1-day protocol from Vizzy's post recommends just 3x10mg 40 minutes before SN.

Are you going to make a post on the day of?

 

[Defenestration]

Seems like a lot of meto for one day? The 1-day protocol from Vizzy's post recommends just 3x10mg 40 minutes before SN.

Are you going to make a post on the day of?

No, normally meto protocol is done over

2 days

.Day 1:
8 AM: 10 mg
4 PM: 10 mg
12 AM: 10 mg

Day 2:
8 AM: 10 mg
4 PM: 10 mg
O 11:30 PM/Midnight: 3 x 10 mg

I'm only doing the second day because I'm taking psychiatric medication that can interact, so I won't take my medication on the last day.

I was told that the second day was enought

 

[Defenestration]

@Macédonien1987

Need ton tour opinion of expert please

 

[Defenestration]

@Macedonian1987

 

[Macedonian1987]

@Macedonian1987

My protocol would be this (when the right time comes) I will fast for 8-16 hours. I will begin my protocol with 10mg meto, then 6 hours later another 10mg meto, then 5 hours later i will take 1-2mg xanax, i am a benzo naive person so that should make me very relaxed and not anxious. 15 minutes later i will take 30mg meto and after 45 minutes i will drink my SN which will be 25g in 50-55ml of water.
It's not a perfect protocol, but I am hoping it will work

 

[Defenestration]

My protocol would be this (when the right time comes) I will fast for 8-16 hours. I will begin my protocol with 10mg meto, then 6 hours later another 10mg meto, then 5 hours later i will take 1-2mg xanax, i am a benzo naive person so that should make me very relaxed and not anxious. 15 minutes later i will take 30mg meto and after 45 minutes i will drink my SN which will be 25g in 50-55ml of water.
It's not a perfect protocol, but I am hoping it will work

It's pretty much the same as me, but a bit younger...

 

[Defenestration]

Others advices,correct?

 

[Defenestration]

Nobody????

 

[apollon]

i think your plan looks pretty detailed and successful. i mean people have died even after vomiting half of their sn up and people have died without anti emetic so your plan sounds great. wish you luck and safe travels

 

[cocobutter]

Why no antacids and Propranolol?

 

[abcdefg789]

No, normally meto protocol is done over

2 days

.Day 1:
8 AM: 10 mg
4 PM: 10 mg
12 AM: 10 mg

Day 2:
8 AM: 10 mg
4 PM: 10 mg
O 11:30 PM/Midnight: 3 x 10 mg

I'm only doing the second day because I'm taking psychiatric medication that can interact, so I won't take my medication on the last day.

I was told that the second day was enought

The PPEH only has taking meto right before the SN.

Where is the advice for 2 day meto protocol coming from?

 

[Defenestration]

Pourquoi pas d'antiacides et de propranolol ?

I dont have propanolol ...and for antiacids philip Nitschke said not need...i believe

Le PPEH ne prend en charge que moi juste avant le SN.

D'où vient le conseil concernant le protocole méto de 2 jours ?

Cf see Stan guide or vizzy bible

 

[c3po]

My protocol would be this (when the right time comes) I will fast for 8-16 hours. I will begin my protocol with 10mg meto, then 6 hours later another 10mg meto, then 5 hours later i will take 1-2mg xanax, i am a benzo naive person so that should make me very relaxed and not anxious. 15 minutes later i will take 30mg meto and after 45 minutes i will drink my SN which will be 25g in 50-55ml of water.
It's not a perfect protocol, but I am hoping it will work

Since you seem to know your way around SN, I have the following questions:


1. Why are you taking the metoclopramide in divided doses rather than all at once, as recommended in the PPEH? Do you want to make sure that, for whatever reason, the latency period until the drug takes effect isn't delayed in your case, leaving you without protection against vomiting?

2. Like you, I'm also considering taking only a small amount of benzos for anxiety reduction and pain dissociation—not a massive overdose for numbing. But what made you decide to do it this way?

3. This raises the biggest questions for me: What made you decide to skip the antacids? I've decided to follow a strict antacid regimen: 20 mg of omeprazole (PPI) in the morning for a week, another medication in the evening (I've forgotten the name right now, but it starts with T), and calcium carbonate right before the SN. In addition to preventing pain (no chemical reaction between stomach acid and the SN), I'm hoping this will reduce nausea.

4. Why are you avoiding 1g of acetaminophen (Paracetamol)? It won't do much good, but headaches (according to my calculations, massive headaches are to be expected, even if the PPEH disputes this) should be slightly reduced.


One more thing:

- In my humble opinion, it's a good idea to take ondansetron in addition to Meto. Both medications have different mechanisms of action, and taking both will likely further reduce the likelihood of vomiting or delay the onset of vomiting.

 

[Macedonian1987]

1. I would take smaller dose of meto prior the big one (30mg) because if you prep your body to meto before taking the large dose, the vomiting reflex will be further suppressed compared to the stat dose of 30mg taken at once. That's why the 48 regimen exists and has higher succsees rate when trying to ctb with SN.

2. I decided on benzos because I will probably be very scared and anxious when the day comes for me to drink my SN. I want to be as calm as possible.

3. I will skip on antacids and propranolol because i dont want to overmedicate myself and make the protocol simpler. Many members here said that antacids are not of critical importance for this method.

4. I will skip on pain meds because i don't want to take too many meds, and I will be dead in 10-15 mins so it wouldn't matter in the end.

 

[Defenestration]

1. I would take smaller dose of meto prior the big one (30mg) because if you prep your body to meto before taking the large dose, the vomiting reflex will be further suppressed compared to the stat dose of 30mg taken at once. That's why the 48 regimen exists and has higher succsees rate when trying to ctb with SN.

2. I decided on benzos because I will probably be very scared and anxious when the day comes for me to drink my SN. I want to be as calm as possible.

3. I will skip on antacids and propranolol because i dont want to overmedicate myself and make the protocol simpler. Many members here said that antacids are not of critical importance for this method.

4. I will skip on pain meds because i don't want to take too many meds, and I will be dead in 10-15 mins so it wouldn't matter in the end.

Thanks for information
But is a 1-day protocol with 10mg of meto at 8am and 4pm sufficient and 3*10 23 h 30/ midnight?