Coronavirus death

[Buffy5120]

That's what I'm afraid of. I tell myself I'll just tough it out and not seek medical help but if it's that painful I'm not sure I could hold out. I guess taking SN would be a quicker and less painful death.

What is "SN"?

Yes, there is still allot we don't know. I've heard that it's actually mutating and there is now a second, more aggressive strain.

It's possible that the weaker strain affects mostly seniors and the stronger strain affects those who are younger and healthy.

My point is however, people should not be deliberately trying to get the virus to ctb, they would be putting other people's lives at risk. Especially front line doctors, nurses, staff and straining the system.

If you want to ctb, there are quicker methods that won't put others at risk.

What are those quicker methods than i just want to die already?

 

[Quarky00]

I know it's a hypothesis but the reasoning and the statistics behind the study are concerning. Those with hypertension and diabetes suffered more severe complications. I'm not worried about dying. I'm worried about not being able to afford hospitalization and pain and suffering i might experience fighting severe symptoms that require supplemental oxygen that I will not have without medical assistance. Gasping for air for prolonged periods of time will be frightening and painful. Yes only a small chance of dying however there is a 25% chance of suffering severe complications which is probably higher if you have hypertension and diabetes. Also more severe symptoms and greater risk of serious infection could lead to permanent lung damage.you may not die but you may wish you were dead after the doctors and hospitals try to take all your money and your left with a disabled lung. ..lol

I'm not so sure about that . Where did that 25% came from? Are those people your age and without comorbidity? The researchers did a bad job.

It's very easy to say "20% of serious SARS patients had diabetes -- risk factor!". What about everything else like age , immune, comorbidity? At the end you found out all of them were 65+ !!

People with diabetes lung illness etc may develop more serious symptoms. That's true no matter what, even for regular flu. But really need to consider everything.

In recent decade health professionals aand scientists are doing a really bad job. Including those from the best universities. Looking for cheap headlines... CITATIONS = LIKES

 

[jgm63]

I know it's a hypothesis but the reasoning and the statistics behind the study are concerning. Those with hypertension and diabetes suffered more severe complications. I'm not worried about dying. I'm worried about not being able to afford hospitalization and pain and suffering i might experience fighting severe symptoms that require supplemental oxygen that I will not have without medical assistance. Gasping for air for prolonged periods of time will be frightening and painful. Yes only a small chance of dying however there is a 25% chance of suffering severe complications which is probably higher if you have hypertension and diabetes. Also more severe symptoms and greater risk of serious infection could lead to permanent lung damage.you may not die but you may wish you were dead after the doctors and hospitals try to take all your money and your left with a disabled lung. ..lol

So in summary, are you suggesting that coronavirus might not make it into the next PPH edition ?

 

[calendulo]

About to comparing covid19 with HIV. It is a nonsense.

Firstly, I am sorry. I know quote oneself is very ugly. But I want to rectify that.
It is true. I totally misunderstood that comparative. I answered it too fast.
Covid 19 is like HIV, or better....Covid 19 will be HIV. Into the future, I am afraid.
Ok, Sorry.

And then A stat about mortality in South Korea, as today.
I think South Korea did it very good, doing a lot of test.

 

[de_sparrow]

I am almost ashamed at how poorly I am coping with Covid19. I have survived things I shouldn't have-horrible relationship, a bad drug habit and the lifestyle that came with it. My sister says I'm like a cat with 9 lives.
My brother is an RN and that whole situation is hopeless. I have elders, one who would definitely not make it. My partner chose to self quarantine Tuesday after work, where conscious disregard is rampant and attempts to hide the risks have been ongoing for the last two weeks at his place of employment. Only when an employee was in ICU did management address shit. This was Monday.
I am not trying to sound like a martyr or victim, but truth is, my caregiving tendencies get me every time. I have done everything to make sure he's okay. That has been the case for years.
I have worked my hands raw and cannot stop fucking disinfecting. I am already obsessive compulsive about getting/making him/my beloved dogs sick and a moderate germaphobe. This virus feels like both a personal attack and horrible reinforcement that my OCD is legit. People are all, "Find something fun to keep your mind busy", "Limit media". It is not intentional, but feels so condescending. I sit on my porch and gaze at the trees in the warm sunshine, birds singing all around me and wish I could have the guts to be dangling from one of those trees.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Pneumonia and suffocation... What do you think?

 

[Jessica5]

The actual death rate for the virus is unknown, since many cases are unknown-and the people who have mild cases and won't die are the least likely people to get diagnosed with the virus. The death rate of known cases is about 3%, but Fauci has a paper where he estimates the death rate in reality is about 1%. It would be even lower than that if you're under 65.

 

[Jumper Geo]

The actual death rate for the virus is unknown, since many cases are unknown-and the people who have mild cases and won't die are the least likely people to get diagnosed with the virus. The death rate of known cases is about 3%, but Fauci has a paper where he estimates the death rate in reality is about 1%. It would be even lower than that if you're under 65.

This may give you an idea of how many people are infected, recovered and died. it lists all Countries.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) map

Coronavirus cases and other statistics

google.com

 

[noonetoo]

There have already been a few cases of healthier adults dying, so that proves any age group isn't exempt of at least becoming a carrier. Haven't been on in awhile but suicide by the Corona bus was the first I was thinking about while logging in. Suffocating is painful so that doesn't sound like an enjoyable ending journey. I kind of wish I could get the virus so i can have a reason to re-attempt my Charcoal method again and correctly with a straight mind. Maybe with my immune system low and a second chance to do it correctly, it would work this time. Just wondering, how can one get the virus? Seriously.
And if you're going to respond to me, remember its pro-choice here and most of are hurting and just really want to go.

 

[Blutsager]

People,

I think it's not time to debate about numbers or statistics. About probabilities and outcomes.

I understand why you are doing this: it was said that knowledge is power. Times like this have proven us that this isn't true. Knowledge won't make you more resilient to the disease. Knowledge won't make you immune. And knowledge won't save you, if your time has come.

I think right now, it is time to live one day at a time. To enjoy the little things that we may have a chance to see on each day. To appreciate them, perhaps as our last, or perhaps as just another day in what may yet be a long line of days ahead of us in our future.

And it may be too hard, for many of you to enjoy each day, if you are concerning yourselves about the future. What for?. Considering scenarios of the future means nothing now: in other times, considering the foreseeable outcomes may help you take a proper course of action to prepare for it. But now, there is nothing you can do, there is no movement you can make. Whatever may happen will happen, and there is nothing you nor any one of us can do to stop it. So for now... live the today.

Or not. Perhaps you decide you don't want to live the today. Perhaps you decide you don't want to live no more. A decision we will all support you in.

I think it would be best if this thread ends here. Stop providing information or debating on this issue any further. It is what it is, and it will be, what it may be.

Best of luck everyone, and be it that our time may draw near, or that a lengthy and prosperous life lies ahead of us, one day we shall all end, and after that... I will meet you all in the afterlife.

Best regards.

 

[BipolarGuy]

I was considering making a joke about coronavirus, but I thought better of it because 99.6% of people won't get it anyway.