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A lot of people who survive suicide attempts and end up paralyzed or disfigured are happy their attempts failed and are happier and more positive about life.

I'm happy for them. really. but this really makes me sick idk. nothing personal against them obviously. It's just me, myself. I'm just.. arghh, I could never.

I don't understand what they are so happy about. Please someone explain because I'm a bit stuck here.
 
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whatstheporpoise15

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Agree 1000%. I feel like it must be some sort of repression and denial, because how the hell would they cope with life?
 
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Agree 1000%. I feel like it must be some sort of repression and denial, because how the hell would they cope with life?
exactly. they feel like they have no other option because of the trauma of failing so miserably and ending up like that.

It's like there's absolutely no way out for them and some of them are bedridden and can't research suicide methods or do anything on their own anymore. This is a terrible situation.

Life is merciless.
 
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Symbiote

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I think if people failed their suicide and they're left bedridden or a vegetable, then the doctors should just assist them on their merry way to the arms of Death. Only in an ideal world, I guess.
 
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I think if people failed their suicide and they're left bedridden or a vegetable, then the doctors should just assist them on their merry way to the arms of Death. Only in an ideal world, I guess.
people are too cruel and selfish for that.

life is such a mistake.
 
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Some people experience a period of being suicidal and then recover… I guess that's what happened to this young lady…
 
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It could be a lot of reasons. She said she had no external issues, it was all internal pressure. So when she survived she's not returning to any severe external circumstances. Her suicide was impulsive and she instantly regretted it, so her internal feelings shifted.

The reasons for suicide and the internal state of each of us is different. There are cases like her and the guy holding the paper who jumped from the Golden gate and regretted it. Even so, there are countless who feel worse and attempt again. I think it comes down to the reasons and the internal suffering of the person attempting.
 
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There are cases like her and the guy holding the paper who jumped from the Golden gate and regretted it
I believe that guy when he said that you'll instantly regret a suicide attempt. It's normal because of SI.

That doesn't mean anything. That doesn't make you any less suicidal.
 
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I think that the problem with videos like that, is that they might make people think that everyone who attempts suicide will go on to regret it and it may make pro lifers think that all suicidal people need to be saved, as they think that things will get better for the person if they don't go through with it, which is harmful and does not reflect reality.

I think that 'saving' someone against their wishes from an attempt is cruel and selfish. To me, it is horrifying how someone attempted and ended up in a wheelchair. A peaceful suicide should be a human right. And also, many people pretend to be happy in front of others, but that does not often reflect how they really feel.
 
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A lot of people who survive suicide attempts and end up paralyzed or disfigured are happy their attempts failed and are happier and more positive about life.

I'm happy for them. really. but this really makes me sick idk. nothing personal against them obviously. It's just me, myself. I'm just.. arghh, I could never.

I don't understand what they are so happy about. Please someone explain because I'm a bit stuck here.

In her case she still has the love and support of family and friends and still has the opportunity for a good career ahead of her- a lot of young adults hit a crisis around this time and they don't realize that they have people around them who can help them- her family is likely very caring. For many people this is not the case so recovery is not as feasible.
 
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It could be a lot of reasons. She said she had no external issues, it was all internal pressure. So when she survived she's not returning to any severe external circumstances. Her suicide was impulsive and she instantly regretted it, so her internal feelings shifted.
It sounds like an oversimplification.

This girl is still young. when she grows up a bit and the true adversities of life start showing in her mid twenties... then Idk if she'll feel the same about her vegetable legs.
In her case she still has the love and support of family and friends and still has the opportunity for a good career ahead of her- a lot of young adults hit a crisis around this time and they don't realize that they have people around them who can help them- her family is likely very caring. For many people this is not the case so recovery is not as feasible.
My family was caring too. Family and friends are caring until they realize you're too much of a burden because of your constant depression and then they start ignoring you completely.

Her family is caring because she is still a baby. A teen.

The more time passes, the more she'll figure out that she is on her own
 
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Symbiote

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You always see videos like these that are uplifting and so on, but you never see anyone post a video that they're still suffering after a suicide attempt because it gets censored by every social platform out there. But it's okay to show war footage of people being maimed and saying that they still enjoy life under whatever country's occupation.
 
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Hope:-)

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I'm still doing it when I move into my own flat. Not jumping though-sn. I personally don't think I'd handle surviving a jump like she has.
 
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Someone123

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My family was caring too. Family and friends are caring until they realize you're too much of a burden because of your constant depression and then they start ignoring you completely.

Her family is caring because she is still a baby. A teen.

The more time passes, the more she'll figure out that she is on her own
This may not be, some people get more caring families than others, I suspect based on the happiness she is feeling that her family is more deeply caring than most. My family was horrible to me groing up, this was the root cause of things. Once my mom was gone my sisters were free to care about me- she always kept them separated from me growing up. I wish my parents would get to fully experience all the pain they inflicted on me for as long of a time as I have suffered. Then the things I had to do to try to survive at home- like not ever admitting mistakes- were the exact opposite of what I needed to do to fit in with the kids at school.
 
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She has a mission in life now.
 
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Yeah good for her I guess that she chose the recovery path , more power to anyone that finds a fulfilling life. When you're young like that you don't even have a glimpse of how shitty life is about to get though and people are always different in front of cameras I don't totally buy it but still wish I was her instead of me
 
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I'm still doing it when I move into my own flat. Not jumping though-sn. I personally don't think I'd handle surviving a jump like she has.
It was actually a gun shot she survived, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to live like that.
 
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Hope:-)

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It was actually a gun shot she survived, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to live like that.
Sorry, I just read the comments...tbh these speeches are all quite similar. One of the comments seemed to imply she jumped. Either way, I would not handle it well. I just wouldnt.
 
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How the heck she survived and be fine after a gun shot to the head?

i check the other video and she even managed to practice to walk

anyway maybe the shot changed her brain/mental?
And also a lot of people look up to her now maybe she feels happy because of that and she said shes happy being the inspiration of a lot of people, maybe thats what shes been looking for

The other reason we still dont know what truly happens behind the curtain



A lot of people who survive suicide attempts and end up paralyzed or disfigured are happy their attempts failed and are happier and more positive about life.

I'm happy for them. really. but this really makes me sick idk. nothing personal against them obviously. It's just me, myself. I'm just.. arghh, I could never.

I don't understand what they are so happy about. Please someone explain because I'm a bit stuck here.
 
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A lot of people who survive suicide attempts and end up paralyzed or disfigured are happy their attempts failed and are happier and more positive about life.

If the intention is not to die, then it's NOT suicide; It's an accident or careless action driven by unthoughtful impulse, they are just confusing suicide and making it looks like bad evil. She said it clearly after the shot that she didn't want to die, what a suicide that didn't want to die.

May be I'm part of those minorities of people who regret the failed attempt but didn't regret of doing so, I think the failure to CTB is the most unfortunate event in my life, I need decades to be able to gather courage and learn the right way to do it with low risk of failure
 
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Honestly some of us should probably be ashamed of ourselves
 
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Euthanza

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I think that the problem with videos like that, is that they might make people think that everyone who attempts suicide will go on to regret it and it may make pro lifers think that all suicidal people need to be saved, as they think that things will get better for the person if they don't go through with it, which is harmful and does not reflect reality.

I think that 'saving' someone against their wishes from an attempt is cruel and selfish. To me, it is horrifying how someone attempted and ended up in a wheelchair. A peaceful suicide should be a human right. And also, many people pretend to be happy in front of others, but that does not often reflect how they really feel.
Yup, they're misleading the real ones who really want to die
 
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If the intention is not to die, then it's NOT suicide; It's an accident or careless action driven by unthoughtful impulse, they are just confusing suicide and making it looks like bad evil.

May be I'm part of those minorities of people who regret the failed attempt but didn't regret of doing so, I think the failure to CTB is the most unfortunate event in my life, I need decades to be able to gather courage and learn the right way to do it with low risk of failure
She shot herself, we can't gatekeep what is a suicide attempt. It was impulsive, but impulsive suicides are still suicides.

You can get shot point-blank in the head and survive to tell the tale. That's one of the reasons why gunshot is not that popular. You have to position and hold properly, and use an adequate weapon. I'm making an assumptiom but I don't think this kid knew that.
 
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She shot herself, we can't gatekeep what is a suicide attempt. It was impulsive, but impulsive suicides are still suicides.

You can get shot point-blank in the head and survive to tell the tale. That's one of the reasons why gunshot is not that popular. You have to position and hold properly, and use an adequate weapon. I'm making an assumptiom but I don't think this kid knew that.

Parasuicide definiton:
An apparent attempt at suicide, commonly called a suicidal gesture, in which the aim is not death.
 
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A lot of people who survive suicide attempts and end up paralyzed or disfigured are happy their attempts failed and are happier and more positive about life.

I'm happy for them. really. but this really makes me sick idk. nothing personal against them obviously. It's just me, myself. I'm just.. arghh, I could never.

I don't understand what they are so happy about. Please someone explain because I'm a bit stuck here.
I think because for some people suicide is their answer; that is truly how their story ends, but for others it isn't and they made the mistake of believing it was. Some people are miserable after their attempts fail and even try again until it works, but others have a more positive outlook after their attempts fail because they realize they personally had made the wrong choice and were given a chance to try again.
I hope this doesn't sound sappy.
 
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Not to be insensitive to this topic but does anyone have any ideas of what gun she used and where she aimed to survive. Other than her being in a wheel chair she looks normal.

Anyone notice how most suicidal gun survivors never mention pain.
 
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Efilismislife

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May 25, 2021
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Not to be insensitive to this topic but does anyone have any ideas of what gun she used and where she aimed to survive. Other than her being in a wheel chair she looks normal.

Anyone notice how most suicidal gun survivors never mention pain.
i dont know what you mean about the pain/what pain
The pain where/when shes being shot?

but the brain itself cant feel pain, doesnt have the nociceptor/ pain receptor but the skull and other surrounding has

I knew it from the brain surgery where they can do it with the patient conscious but still given analgesic to block the pain on the skull and surrounding area

(But then again people would still be questioning how do you get an headache then?) :haha:

but im still confused how, if the brain got shot there should be some broken area and causing someone to lose function/some damage to it will cause a malfunctioning to other body system, etc
 
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obafgkm

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I hate NGOs bringing deformed people on stage for fundraising.
 
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Anyone notice how most suicidal gun survivors never mention pain.
but have you noticed a lot of them are either disfigured or paralysed or both?

Idk where she aimed. I'd like to know too honestly because she is not disfigured or deaf. She most likely had the gun between her eyes close to her nose or behind her ears.
 
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obafgkm

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How the heck she survived and be fine after a gun shot to the head?

i check the other video and she even managed to practice to walk

anyway maybe the shot changed her brain/mental?
And also a lot of people look up to her now maybe she feels happy because of that and she said shes happy being the inspiration of a lot of people, maybe thats what shes been looking for

The other reason we still dont know what truly happens behind the curtain
Shooting the brain is probably not the best way to kill a person. Many people survive with large parts of the brains damaged (due to stroke or accident). Shooting the heart is probably more reliable.
 
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