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Anonperson1

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you know, one of the only things holding me back at the moment is the fact that I don't have children. It seems like an utter failure of life if my genes don't get passed on after billions of years of ancestors who were able to gather enough resources to reproduce. I've had several people who want to start a family with me pop over over the last 4 years, but what's held me back is feelings of being inadequate as a father in terms of finance and job stability. If I had one and CTB, I wonder though if that would fuck them up and continue a chain of mental illness...and the effect on the mother. Maybe a golddigger who's after a house and money wouldn't care, but meh.
Anyone else in the same boat?
 
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My family's genes are coming to an end, neither my brother nor I will be having kids, and were the last option left. I would never have kids knowing I've been suicidal for 20 years and can't even look after myself.
 
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Darkover

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why would you want to bring a child into this fucked up world where they would be facing their certain demise
i know i wish i was never born at all period i had a child at 18 and have regreated it ever since
 
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Ixadavt

Plaster on a fake smile; plow through another day.
Aug 18, 2022
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Well, when it comes to the insecurities of being a father, the idea that I'd be a shitty father and I've wasted my employed life (just jobs tossed each career I could have had and in turn no money to fall back on, etc) I have avoided having children as it would have been irresponsible. I get that and have lived that. Although, in my case, if the situation were perfect, I think it'd have the opposite effect on me. Of course, the probability of this is probably below a whole integer.
 
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Euthanza

Self Righteous Suicide
Jun 9, 2022
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This pain of life stops with me. My genes are not special, it's not like rare animal or something, dust.
 
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ManicPanic2018

Night of the final day
Sep 11, 2022
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Couldn't imagine bringing a child into this world knowing that there's even the samllest chance that any of my issues are genetic (Bipolar I know likely is, if I had a child that ended up trans too I would never fogive myself). I wouldn't wish the things I go through on my worst enemy, let alone potentially my own child.

I'm glad I'm sterile and that my line ends with me.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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It really is not a failure if you don't have children. To never bring someone into this world is the best thing possible, it's preventing so much unnecessary suffering that the person would have to experience if they are brought here. With life comes unlimited potential for pain. There is no reason to struggle all for the sake of it just to die anyway eventually.
 
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Fadeawaaaay

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Nov 12, 2021
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I wish my life has been completely different and I had enough financial resources to have kids… Too late
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
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you know, one of the only things holding me back at the moment is the fact that I don't have children. It seems like an utter failure of life if my genes don't get passed on after billions of years of ancestors who were able to gather enough resources to reproduce. I've had several people who want to start a family with me pop over over the last 4 years, but what's held me back is feelings of being inadequate as a father in terms of finance and job stability. If I had one and CTB, I wonder though if that would fuck them up and continue a chain of mental illness...and the effect on the mother. Maybe a golddigger who's after a house and money wouldn't care, but meh.
Anyone else in the same boat?
Women wanting a man who provides doesn't make her a gold digger. It's literally in our biological nature to be drawn towards men with resources as it gives us the reassurance of positive reproduction and family creation.
Those who impulsively have kids with poor men are not only harming themselves, but are placing an innocent life into a disadvantaged situation. Poverty is not something an innocent life should have to endure
 
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Darkover

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hose who impulsively have kids with poor men are not only harming themselves, but are placing an innocent life into a disadvantaged situation. Poverty is not something an innocent life should have to endure
of which there are bilions of woman having children in disavantaged situations
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
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of which there are bilions of woman having children in disavantaged situations
And that's not a good thing. That harms them and the baby. Let's not promote that
 
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gimzero

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Aug 15, 2022
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Its more easy but depent with resposibilies any one have but in the end you have nobody to mournng you and all they forget in days.
 
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Karakhitan

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Sep 9, 2022
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having children is very selfish. Also if you ctb without children you don't abandon anyone.
 
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Final-push123

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Jan 28, 2020
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Don't feel to bad,most men through out human history never had kids.

In fact most of the people who reproduce have been nearly all women and select few men. Most men are genetic dead in.


Just one of the many reasons life is just not cool
 
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neonzebra

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Sep 11, 2022
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I've had this thought too.
One thing I've considered is to have a baby but give it up for adoption so they have a happy life with a stable family, but my genes still get passed on.
 
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mentalhealthfighter

Lets win together
Jun 15, 2021
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My family's genes are coming to an end, neither my brother nor I will be having kids, and were the last option left. I would never have kids knowing I've been suicidal for 20 years and can't even look after myself.
Wait, you have been suicidal for 20 years??
 
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LaVieEnRose

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Jul 23, 2022
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If you feel that suicide is a probable outcome for your life, you should abstain.

No one's genes specifically deserve to be passed down. It doesn't even matter. All individuals have finite lives and humanity will probably go extinct one day, in which case everyone's genes disappear.

You're not a failure for not having kids. Sure, in purely evolutionary terms the procreators are "winners" but like I said every individual organism is destined to die so it doesn't matter.
 
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Anonperson1

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Sep 8, 2022
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Women wanting a man who provides doesn't make her a gold digger. It's literally in our biological nature to be drawn towards men with resources as it gives us the reassurance of positive reproduction and family creation.
Those who impulsively have kids with poor men are not only harming themselves, but are placing an innocent life into a disadvantaged situation. Poverty is not something an innocent life should have to endure
A woman has to bring more to the table than just sucking up money, fucking, and having babies. I have had some hangers on in the past and once the physical stuff is out of the way and routine (there's only so much you can try), there's nothing left and I ended up looking for the next beauty.
I'd rather have an average looking girl with intellegence and independent finances, than a stunner with a tight body, DSL, and an eye on my assets.
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
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A woman has to bring more to the table than just sucking up money, fucking, and having babies. I have had some hangers on in the past and once the physical stuff is out of the way and routine (there's only so much you can try), there's nothing left and I ended up looking for the next beauty.
I'd rather have an average looking girl with intellegence and independent finances, than a stunner with a tight body, DSL, and an eye on my assets.
Then that's your preference. There's lots of feminists out there for you lol you have fun with that, mate.
 
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woknows

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Dec 12, 2020
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Women wanting a man who provides doesn't make her a gold digger. It's literally in our biological nature to be drawn towards men with resources as it gives us the reassurance of positive reproduction and family creation.
Those who impulsively have kids with poor men are not only harming themselves, but are placing an innocent life into a disadvantaged situation. Poverty is not something an innocent life should have to endurejust

Then that's your preference. There's lots of feminists out there for you lol you have fun with that, mate.
Sounds like something a golddigger with nothing to offer except her uterus for reproduction would say. Guess what, there are billions just like you.

BTW. Your reasoning is bullshit. Do you know why? Cause hunter-gatherers did not own much. And to boot, the gatherers are usually presumed to have been women. They obviously did not sit around and wait for a man to take care of her, she had to contribute.
 
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melancholic

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Aug 20, 2022
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As a parent who is agonizing over causing my child pain by leaving this world, please do not have children if you are going to ctb.
 
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Dark S Tower

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Sep 13, 2022
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Don't feel bad for not having reproduced. There's no shortage of humans on the planet, and frankly the world would be a lot better off if more people decided not to have children. If you care about the Earth, consider that for each child you have, your carbon footprint instantly increases to infinity.

If you don't have children, you have fewer people to disappoint or hurt. Count your blessings.
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
433
Sounds like something a golddigger with nothing to offer except her uterus for reproduction would say. Guess what, there are billions just like you.

BTW. Your reasoning is bullshit. Do you know why? Cause hunter-gatherers did not own much. And to boot, the gatherers are usually presumed to have been women. They obviously did not sit around and wait for a man to take care of her, she had to contribute.
There actually aren't billions considering the concerning rates of infertility increasing. Those rates have a lot to do with the increase in processed foods, drug addiction, sugar addiction, and alcoholism that run rampant. Feel free to look into studies about how these things can affect both genders ability to reproduce. Ladies, protect your uterus form these types of aggressive animalistic men. They do not value the creation of life.
And as I said, there are lots of feminists who will date you, who will happily terminate every pregnancy you impulsively create with her. Date feminists, don't tell non-feminist women who and what they have to like. We aren't obligated to date you so if you want a feminist, there's lots out there who will work while pregnant since you will force them to, who will let you abuse and mistreat her, and who will happily make routine trips to the clinic to abort when pregnancy becomes burdening for your relationship because they already do ;)
We also aren't living in caveman times anymore in case you haven't noticed, so hunter gatherer point is moot, considering things that have evolved. We don't squat in the woods to live anymore, well, maybe you do teehee
 
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woknows

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Dec 12, 2020
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There actually aren't billions considering the concerning rates of infertility increasing. Ladies, protect your uterus form these types of aggressive animalistic men. They do not value the creation of life

Maybe you should not wait until you are 40 in search of a good provider and get down to business sooner:). No matter, no lack of people yet. And to the point. We do not value useless women, we have standards. FYI men do not get to impregnate all the females in the area, as some mammals do. Hence, we need to be selective too, to ensure the children we will be raising are of good stock. I am sure you will appreciate the sentiment.
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
433
Maybe you should not wait until you are 40 in search of a good provider and get down to business sooner:). No matter, no lack of people yet. And to the point. We do not value useless women, we have standards. FYI men do not get to impregnate all the females in the area, as some mammals do. Hence, we need to be selective too, to ensure the children we will be raising are of good stock. I am sure you will appreciate the sentiment.
Oh trust me I'm not waiting. My last partner was a provider as was the one before him. I know what those men are like and in my area they're everywhere, so it's easy for me to get another because I don't have to settle, and I won't be procreating with the poor because I don't have to :) and Trust me, I know to stay away from men who support feminists and 50/50 relationships lol. I always giggle at the girlies who go for those types of men; they'll regret it when they're working while nine months pregnant.
Men are selective all the time, so women should be too. Men want a hot woman and women want a well off man. I see nothing wrong with either, because I know how to obtain a man who provides so someone's standards don't really impact or bother me. The issue is, poor men want a hot woman yet cannot provide the lifestyle she already lives, so have your standards, but don't be surprised when they aren't met.
Now in terms of older age, I will say this as ive said before on this forum. Older women can pull well off men, but that depends on how she looks. I have women in my city much older than me (I'm in 20s) and they're dating men with twice as much money, but they invested heavily in self care. Bezos is dating a woman currently who's around his age and she is pretty. Not all well off men go for young women, and there's actually very valid reasons as to why all of them do not. That is a stereotype that is perpetuated over and over, but it isn't true.
Just because a podcast bro tells all of the peasants watching that that is what all rich men like, does not mean it's true, so being 40 doesn't really prevent someone from obtaining that unless they are just not attractive which in that case yes that's going to be a very big problem lol. From dating well off men, I can say age isn't as huge of a focus. It's going to be how does she take care of herself because well off men don't mind spending money on a woman who already spends on herself. I know what they expect which is why i invested In my looks and still do.

So to conclude, perhaps when men decide they will date, old, fat and ugly women, then women can compromise and decide they want to have a family with a guy who makes 10 dollars an hour and have to explain to their kids why the light bill isn't paid.
Until then, I welcome superficial standards.
 
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woknows

Experienced
Dec 12, 2020
264
We aren't obligated to date you.
I do not want to date you. Thank you.
And as I said, there are lots of feminists who will date you, who will happily terminate every pregnancy you impulsively create with
You seem to be very familiar with abortions and being forced into one. I have no experience with the subject, as I prefer to avoid unwanted pregnancy by the use of contraceptive methods.
We also aren't living in caveman times anymore in case you haven't noticed, so hunter gatherer point is moot, considering things that have evolved.
I suggest you do not bring up points you do not understand. Your biology is subject to evolution and the circumstances under which we evolved are obviously relevant in this regard. Or simply do not pretend that acting like a selfish, entitled golddigger is normal due to women's biology.
 
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Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
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I'm just going to keep this simple. If you are not financially or mentally secure, don't have kids. If you are doubtful about having them, don't have kids. If you don't want them to come into a world of pain and suffering, don't have kids.

Personally, I am a proud non-parent and I don't want to pass my faulty genes onto another innocent child. That's my take on it anyway. I would also encourage proud anti-natalists to check this site and movement out. They are doing phenomenal work in spreading the truth. https://www.stophavingkids.org/
 
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Funeralprincess

Death never turned on me
May 8, 2022
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I do not want to date you. Thank you.

You seem to be very familiar with abortions and being forced into one. I have no experience with the subject, as I prefer to avoid unwanted pregnancy by the use of contraceptive methods.

I suggest you do not bring up points you do not understand. Your biology is subject to evolution and the circumstances under which we evolved are obviously relevant in this regard. Or simply do not pretend that acting like a selfish, entitled golddigger is normal due to women's biology.

I've never had an abortion because I don't believe In it. I'm sure every body is familiar with abortion and as someone who's against it, yeah I would be familiar with it. It's quite sick you are sitting here fantasizing about me being forced to kill a life, that's strange.

yes biology is driven by evolution and considering the situation of our current status and economic factors, women are most certainly more driven to those with resources and those who protect and provide lol thank you for proving my point

And also, nobody is trying to dig off your minimum wage job. We are talking about men with careers, not jobs made for liberal teenagers ;)
 
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theboy

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Well, it is true that we will end up with our offspring when we die but it is not mandatory to have children.
 
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