Cardiac arrest before hitting the ground?

[HNR_]

I've seen people mention here a couple times how, if you jump from high enough, you'd actually die of a cardiac arrest before your head collides with the ground and it sounds too good to be true

Like how do people know this? Has it ever been proven? What's the ideal height then?
Just...so many questions, doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me

Not that it'd make me change my mind on the method of course, it's pretty much the only one I have left, it'd be good to know though...

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Good question, this sounds interesting, if anyone knows I hope they'll answer.

 

[Aren]

I've seen people mention here a couple times how, if you jump from high enough, you'd actually die of a cardiac arrest before your head collides with the ground and it sounds too good to be true

Like how do people know this? Has it ever been proven? What's the ideal height then?
Just...so many questions, doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me

Not that it'd make me change my mind on the method of course, it's pretty much the only one I have left, it'd be good to know though...

From what i searched from a hight of 19 floors in my case, medics who analysed others people with this jump, After death, saw a cardiac event that led to lose of conscious. But beyond these feedback i think we cannot be sure at 100%. But in my case I'm sure of one thing, the drop is 4 secondes max and cardiac or not it's quick and there are no survivor registered in this place. I don't know if the brain can handle all these informations in 4 secondes. I don't know just ideas for the last point.

 

[HNR_]

From what i searched from a hight of 19 floors in my case, medics who analysed others people with this jump, After death, saw a cardiac event that led to lose of conscious. But beyond these feedback i think we cannot be sure at 100%. But in my case I'm sure of one thing, the drop is 4 secondes max and cardiac or not it's quick and there are no survivor registered in this place. I don't know if the brain can handle all these informations in 4 secondes. I don't know just ideas for the last point.

Ohh, I see, I see, interesting
I'll jump from about 100 meters so hopefully I do LOC, would be kinda funny if they report back on that and the info ends up making its way here, helping people out

 

[Forveleth]

From what i searched from a hight of 19 floors in my case, medics who analysed others people with this jump, After death, saw a cardiac event that led to lose of conscious. But beyond these feedback i think we cannot be sure at 100%. But in my case I'm sure of one thing, the drop is 4 secondes max and cardiac or not it's quick and there are no survivor registered in this place. I don't know if the brain can handle all these informations in 4 secondes. I don't know just ideas for the last point.

Is there any information about ruling out that the cardiac event led to them falling? How do we know they just did not have a heart attack who's consciousness and then fall?

 

[Aren]

Is there any information about ruling out that the cardiac event led to them falling? How do we know they just did not have a heart attack who's consciousness and then fall?

Good question. Maybe by the fact that there is cameras on this bridge so rescue team can see if people jump "by themsleves or by cardiac". It's a hypothesis. They always talk about people who ran at the ledge on jump not fall.

 

[nesquik]

I think it depends. There was the case of vesna vulovic who fell out of a plane without a parachute at 10,000 metres and survived.

 

[ZwartHartje]

It sounds like a myth to me. For one, 4 seconds is so very short, how could that even be a confirmed cardiac arrest? The heart could have continued beating normally after "skipping" briefly if the impact to the ground hadn't followed. Secondly, how could it ever be proven without the person wearing some sort of heart monitor while jumping? Then again, some people have these "Fitbit" things and stuff, but wearing one at the time you intend to CTB would be a bit absurd...

 

[HNR_]

It sounds like a myth to me. For one, 4 seconds is so very short, how could that even be a confirmed cardiac arrest? The heart could have continued beating normally after "skipping" briefly if the impact to the ground hadn't followed. Secondly, how could it ever be proven without the person wearing some sort of heart monitor while jumping? Then again, some people have these "Fitbit" things and stuff, but wearing one at the time you intend to CTB would be a bit absurd...

Yeah, that's also why I'm asking about it, I probably should've @ the people who said this because it really sounds too good to be true and I don't even really know how that could even be proven
@DrowningWithin I found a message in another thread where you mentioned that, any sources or anything?

 

[Aren]

It sounds like a myth to me. For one, 4 seconds is so very short, how could that even be a confirmed cardiac arrest? The heart could have continued beating normally after "skipping" briefly if the impact to the ground hadn't followed. Secondly, how could it ever be proven without the person wearing some sort of heart monitor while jumping? Then again, some people have these "Fitbit" things and stuff, but wearing one at the time you intend to CTB would be a bit absurd...

I don't know how, that's what the medical examiners concluded and reported regarding numerous cases at the spot I was talking about. But yes, it's just information you can't be 100% certain like i said. For my part, I'm just gathering data and hope to be in these good data. And i think it depends of the spot and health of the person. 4 secondes is the estimation made by rescue team for 19 floors into water (again at the spot i mentioned). I think we never know exactly from the outside.