I have a question using a charcoal burner and, if anyone has any insight it would be really appreciated. When using a charcoal burner that is smaller compared to the buckets used - would you need to get a second charcoal burner or would doing a couple of batches within one be sufficient? Thank you
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locked*n*loaded
Archangel
- Apr 15, 2022
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I'd want all my charcoal to be at the same "place" in the burn cycle, glowing red hot. I'd be concerned that by the time the 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th, etc, batch was appropriately burning, that previous batches would be nearly burned out. Glowing red hot is the point where most CO emission occurs.
Definitely makes sense and would be more certain to have all of the charcoal burning at the same rate. I just wasn't aware if there would have been much difference in a couple of minutes between batches burning. Thanks
locked*n*loaded
Archangel
- Apr 15, 2022
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We're talking about those electric charcoal starters, right? How long do they take to get charcoal burning adequately? I've never used one.
Nah not electric, this would be a chimney starter so just would be used to light coal manually. Never used an electric one either tbf
locked*n*loaded
Archangel
- Apr 15, 2022
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Ok. Myself, I bought 4 chimney starters, large ones, largest I could find, and 4 metal pails.
Ha, I was thinking of how much black smoke exhaust it produces. It's even bad outside. Also, I've seen you or someone else mention the Co shut offs. It's a 12 year old generator and I don't recall a catalytic converter.
If it shuts off it would be due to lack of oxygen.
Also... I've seen mention of Asian style sand protection for the lit BBQ briquettes. Does someone have a diagram of how that setup works.
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locked*n*loaded
Archangel
- Apr 15, 2022
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You may be alright then if it's 12 years old. It still isn't going to get the CO level up high enough in a space that large, imo. It will take too long to die, which equates to too much suffering. Ideally, you need to create a CO level of 10000 ppm, or more, in a space, so that you go unconscious quickly, meaning in seconds, not in minutes.
Have no idea what "sand protection" is, nor what its purpose is.
I posted the sand question to the wrong spot. Elsewhere in this megathread (p 15 or 16) there is a description of putting bag of sand in your car and clay pot with coal.
Could you repost your CO data at end of thread. This is vehicle interior size and amount of charcoal. I'm having trouble finding it again. Thanks
Hi, I'm new here. After much lurking on this thread, i came up with this:
12kgs of lump charcoal + 4Kgs of briquettes burned together in a steel wheelbarrow which would make it easier to wheel inside (my thinking is that the briquettes would burn longer and may assist in keeping the entire batch burning longer when the lump wood starts to die off).
Two options for location (both seal-able):
1) 45m³ room
2) 8m³ bathroom
any opinions/advice will be highly appreciated
12kgs of lump charcoal + 4Kgs of briquettes burned together in a steel wheelbarrow which would make it easier to wheel inside (my thinking is that the briquettes would burn longer and may assist in keeping the entire batch burning longer when the lump wood starts to die off).
Two options for location (both seal-able):
1) 45m³ room
2) 8m³ bathroom
any opinions/advice will be highly appreciated
Bernoulli
Member
- May 19, 2025
- 10
It's best to light the charcoal in smaller quantities in different vessels (chimney starters e.g.) instead of throwing everything you have in a wheelbarrow. I don't see how you could evenly light all of it properly if you lob it together in a wheelbarrow. After its properly lit and stopped smoking you could throw them in a wheelbarrow.
Also the bathroom is a much better location at just 8m³
Also the bathroom is a much better location at just 8m³
SuicideKitty
A grain of life in the nonexistence
- May 19, 2025
- 31
What model of grill i should buy to use it in tent? Also should coals stay in the chimney or i need to put them into bucket after smoke is gone?
Hey guys!
How come no one is talking about this on here?
This method sounds very promising, as the charcoal thing seems to succeed mostly with people who just wanted to get a steak, and is super hard to pull off for the rest of us...
For those who know the world of chemical ingredients, are these actually easy the buy?
Thank you in advance.
Bernoulli
Member
- May 19, 2025
- 10
Charcoal is not hard to pull off, you just need to properly prepare. It is however not a method you can execute on a whim nor is it a quick method.
Does anyone have strong opinions or data to suggest using tarp/foil like HDPE(high density polyethylene) or others sold in general DIY stores to further limit the volume of a room or a tent would work or not. Any construction type tarp/foil that specifically states it is not breathable/passable for fumes.
Does anyone have strong opinions or data to suggest using tarp/foil like HDPE(high density polyethylene) or others sold in general DIY stores to further limit the volume of a room or a tent would work or not. Any construction type tarp/foil that specifically states it is not breathable/passable for fumes.
If I bought a big carbon monoxide tank and attached a mask to it and inhaled the entirety of its contents, would that be a peaceful painless way to go?
hemlocked
Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
- Jun 30, 2025
- 35
You need to heat the materials to somewhere between 800 and 900 degrees celsius (about 1400 - 1600 degrees fahrenheit), and for that you'll need to buy or build some specialised equipment.
Hello, I have been reading this thread through entirely. Took awhile, but more than worth it. I plan to use the charcoal method to CTB.
I have a list of things I plan to buy, such as;
1. Portable charcoal grill
2. Charcoal fire starters
3. Binchotan charcoal (after researching different charcoal, I have found that this is mostly used and has resulted in CTB in Japan, and it also has a longer burn time)
4. Charcoal chimney (The largest one I could find will hold 4lbs of charcoal, which unfortunately is just under 2kg. Will this still be successful?)
My plan;
I am going to purchase a portable charcoal grill that will fit inside of my bathroom. I plan to use some type of plastic or a tarp to tape up inside to cut off approximately half of the bathroom, creating an even smaller space.
I plan to tape thick fabric to the outside of the door along the bottom, so it can build up inside for awhile, while I wait to enter. Binchotan charcoal can make it get really hot, and since the space I'll be using is so small, I plan to fill the tub with cool water to help me stay comfortable in such heat. Once I'm inside, I plan to tape the inside of the door, along the seams, just to be sure no CO escapes while I'm inside. Binchotan charcoal can stay burning for upwards of 3 hours. The only thing I'm concerned about is that the largest charcoal chimney I can find, can only hold 4lbs of charcoal. I am worried that this won't be enough to produce the desired outcome once I'm inside with everything sealed off.
Any suggestions?
I have a list of things I plan to buy, such as;
1. Portable charcoal grill
2. Charcoal fire starters
3. Binchotan charcoal (after researching different charcoal, I have found that this is mostly used and has resulted in CTB in Japan, and it also has a longer burn time)
4. Charcoal chimney (The largest one I could find will hold 4lbs of charcoal, which unfortunately is just under 2kg. Will this still be successful?)
My plan;
I am going to purchase a portable charcoal grill that will fit inside of my bathroom. I plan to use some type of plastic or a tarp to tape up inside to cut off approximately half of the bathroom, creating an even smaller space.
I plan to tape thick fabric to the outside of the door along the bottom, so it can build up inside for awhile, while I wait to enter. Binchotan charcoal can make it get really hot, and since the space I'll be using is so small, I plan to fill the tub with cool water to help me stay comfortable in such heat. Once I'm inside, I plan to tape the inside of the door, along the seams, just to be sure no CO escapes while I'm inside. Binchotan charcoal can stay burning for upwards of 3 hours. The only thing I'm concerned about is that the largest charcoal chimney I can find, can only hold 4lbs of charcoal. I am worried that this won't be enough to produce the desired outcome once I'm inside with everything sealed off.
Any suggestions?
idk if this has been posted before, but I was searching around and found this very detailed paper documenting someone's successful suicide by CO by mixing formic and sulphuric acids in a car.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
It doesn't sound quite as peaceful as I've heard - certainly he didn't "just fall asleep". They describe "violent coughing", epiphora, sweating, laboured breathing. It doesn't really sound like a pleasant 11 minutes.
Suicidal Carbon Monoxide Poisoning by Formic and Sulfuric Acids - PMC
In 1987, a case report was published in the German journal Archiv für Kriminologie describing an apparently novel method of suicide in which the decedent produced a lethal amount of carbon monoxide by mixing formic acid and sulfuric acid. This ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
It doesn't sound quite as peaceful as I've heard - certainly he didn't "just fall asleep". They describe "violent coughing", epiphora, sweating, laboured breathing. It doesn't really sound like a pleasant 11 minutes.
blacksand
Specialist
- May 2, 2023
- 315
Not easy to buy them. My cousin had access a few years ago and I could have probably stolen one of his but I didn't. They seem to be restricted for general public.
Correct, the public cannot really buy carbon monoxide. if you want it have to make it yourself.
kidfortoday
Member
- Dec 3, 2024
- 7
I think it's common sense and also has already been mentioned before, but don't do what my stupid ass did and light the charcoal with ethanol (or any other chemical product) to speed up things.
If you're going for this method, the best advice I can give you is to use more than one neuron, and be very patient.
Patience REALLY is the only key for it to work.
Very peaceful one if done correctly.
If you're going for this method, the best advice I can give you is to use more than one neuron, and be very patient.
Patience REALLY is the only key for it to work.
Very peaceful one if done correctly.
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Hello everyone,
My question may seem stupid, and I apologize if it is.
I know that in some countries, people use this method in groups as a way to reassure themselves during this final step. Are any of you willing or do you know people who would be willing to accompany me? I live in France, but I'm willing to travel because I don't think there are any French speakers here, and this type of site doesn't exist in my area.
Thank you very much, and I apologize if my question is stupid.
My question may seem stupid, and I apologize if it is.
I know that in some countries, people use this method in groups as a way to reassure themselves during this final step. Are any of you willing or do you know people who would be willing to accompany me? I live in France, but I'm willing to travel because I don't think there are any French speakers here, and this type of site doesn't exist in my area.
Thank you very much, and I apologize if my question is stupid.
There's the Partners Megathread:
Well, I'm in the U.S. and I found this link where they sell them, isn't what's being shown in this link what carbon monoxide tanks are? Are these the appropriate tanks to use?
https://mesagas.com/carbon-monoxide-co/
blacksand
Specialist
- May 2, 2023
- 315
The 5000ppm tank is lethal definitely.
Someone mentioned this is an easy method. And yet it doesn't seem to be too heavily used. So I wonder.
I am mostly seeing comments. Somehow I must be missing the main description. Is this a good summary?
1) buy charcoal briquettes and a container for them to burn in. (Like a hibachi?) how many briquettes?
2) ignite the briquettes in a chimney, let them burn for about 30 minutes or until they stop smoking
3) place them in a tent, vehicle or small room. If a tent, openings must be sealed with tape. The location needs to be private.
4) wait. You are likely to feel headaxhy and nauseous, so it seems likely you might just get up and leave. Maybe that's why the method isn't used much.
5) damage will be done to the vehicle/tent/room, at a minimum smoke damage. Is there a risk of fire?
Hmmm, I guess there are some potential hiccups. How did I do folks?
I am mostly seeing comments. Somehow I must be missing the main description. Is this a good summary?
1) buy charcoal briquettes and a container for them to burn in. (Like a hibachi?) how many briquettes?
2) ignite the briquettes in a chimney, let them burn for about 30 minutes or until they stop smoking
3) place them in a tent, vehicle or small room. If a tent, openings must be sealed with tape. The location needs to be private.
4) wait. You are likely to feel headaxhy and nauseous, so it seems likely you might just get up and leave. Maybe that's why the method isn't used much.
5) damage will be done to the vehicle/tent/room, at a minimum smoke damage. Is there a risk of fire?
Hmmm, I guess there are some potential hiccups. How did I do folks?
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