Car exhaust with mid 2000's car?

[Nearest-Glass]

i know its not an optimal method but its what my uncle used to kill himself and it has left trauma in my family especially my mother, who i want to get back at for making my life hell. the car i have access to is a nissan micra k12 sold in germany, would something like this be feasible? maybe if removing the catalytic converters?

i saw this thread but it wasnt discussed further, and yes the car part would be important here

 

[sanitystruggle]

Not nearly old enough and removing the cat is a fair bit of work and depends where/how the cat is mounted (maybe manageable for an amateur mechanic depending on the specifics of the model but you'll need at minimum a jack, axle stands/ramps and tools). Even then there's no guarantee what levels of CO the engine will produce.

 

[Nearest-Glass]

what would be the estimate cutoff date? i do know my uncle did it around like 2008 iirc and the car wasnt historic

 

[Kapsyl]

what would be the estimate cutoff date? i do know my uncle did it around like 2008 iirc and the car wasnt historic

Do you know what kind of car he used?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I don't see how he did it in a 2008 car with fuel injection and catalytic converters. 1975 was when they started mandating catalytic converters, at least in the US. Are you sure your uncle didn't just use a grill in his car with charcoals, and the car was only being used for the "space"?????

 

[sanitystruggle]

They started introducing cats in the 70s/80s. Anything newer is hit and miss. There are things that can render the cat ineffective (like leaks from corrosion or running on leaded gas) so older vehicles may produce higher levels, but it's not reliable the way it was with old carburettor based pre-cat models: YMMV.

Oh and if you are seriously considering removing the cat, bear in mind that you'll need to reconnect the mufflers afterwards or the car will be seriously loud and would draw unwanted attention.

 

[Nearest-Glass]

Do you know what kind of car he used?

sadly not, i was like 6 at most at the time

I don't see how he did it in a 2008 car with fuel injection and catalytic converters. 1975 was when they started mandating catalytic converters, at least in the US. Are you sure your uncle didn't just use a grill in his car with charcoals, and the car was only being used for the "space"?????

def not a new car but my guess would be 80s at most

They started introducing cats in the 70s/80s. Anything newer is hit and miss. There are things that can render the cat ineffective (like leaks from corrosion or running on leaded gas) so older vehicles may produce higher levels, but it's not reliable the way it was with old carburettor based pre-cat models: YMMV.

Oh and if you are seriously considering removing the cat, bear in mind that you'll need to reconnect the mufflers afterwards or the car will be seriously loud and would draw unwanted attention.

i definitely will remember to do that as i indeed intend to use the car again after im done :)

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

The only work around is to cut off the exhaust pipe before it hits the catalytic, some vehicles have the catalytic further downstream on the exhaust pipe far away from the engine itself which makes it easy to run a hose off. You'll need some flexible hosing and a coupling of some sort but you could run it with some put together pieces of PVC into the window or some container that you want to be in too hold the CO2.
CO via the charcoal method in a car is highly effective and peaceful, easier also.

 

[sanitystruggle]

The only work around is to cut off the exhaust pipe before it hits the catalytic, some vehicles have the catalytic further downstream on the exhaust pipe far away from the engine itself which makes it easy to run a hose off.

The cat is almost always the first component in the exhaust after the manifold since they need to run at about 400°C to be effective. Most commonly the cat is an integral part of the downpipe joining the manifold to the rest of the exhaust system. Anywhere a cat operates is going to be much too hot to attach anything made of plastic.

 

[Illegal Preclear]

Definitely understand you wanting to go with the car exhaust method for poetic justice purposes against your mom, but to maximum effectiveness, it's better to use the car as a sealed environment for some kind of poison or inert gas CTB. Look up both the Charcoal method and "detergent" method. From what I've read, the "detergent" method is super quick if DONE CORRECTLY. It requires some chemical mixing on your part so make sure you do a fair amount of research first.

 

[Nearest-Glass]

so realistically the best idea might just be to die in a car with an exit bag and nitrogen which ofc isnt exactly what i want but the symbolism would hopefully be enough to cause her mental damage, if i combine it with a few passages about how i wanted to replicate it to hurt her to push it home in a suicide letter sent a few days or so after the death via dead mans switch to hit her again once she has adjusted a bit that would probably get the desired result