Cannot withstand the thought to work every day with no freedom

[endless_pain]

The thought of living working in a 9 to 5 every day terrifies me.
Like I haven't suffered already.
They tell you when school finishes (already done for me), it will get better. But then you realize the slave cycle continues, like you never reach freedom. Only when you are too old and fragile to even enjoy a bit of this life.
One of the reasons I am struggling with my future. Also because for your independence from your toxic family you need to be economically indipendent. As I have experienced, even staying away from them and working got me so stressed I would ctb several times.
I could never imagine a single day living for decades working in a job as a slave, like life has not been hard and cruel with us already.

 

[FuneralCry]

After all this is just the reality of existing. Many humans spend so much of their existence just being a slave to the society until they inevitably deteriorate from age just to die anyway. Life really is so incredibly futile, I see nothing to be gained from something so worthless as existing and of course the fact that the society needs slaves is why suicide is so stigmatised, and is a reason why people tell lies about suicide being "irrational" when in reality it's a perfectly logical decision. To me it certainly is a punishment to have the ability to exist in this cruel world.

 

[ArchmagePrincess]

Really messes with me that even at a super young age we're forced to do things we don't want to. From single-digit age to retirement we just look forward to the weekend, 2 days where you get to do whatever you want for once, usually wasted on resting because you're tired from work/school.

Whenever I complained about this I'm just told: "That's life" as if they're admitting it sucks. But apparently, no one's allowed to CTB either.

The 9 to 5 concept scares the shit out of me, and that's if you're lucky enough to get one instead of low-paying work (retail, fast food, etc) work whenever the boss says so, destroying your social life in the process.

 

[YEAR2050]

youre forced into the world so you can be a slave for essentially your entire life. just makes me even more certain that ctb is the right (and only) choice

 

[Azora]

Rather than looking at work like it's a death sentence, look at it as a goal. Make money until you've saved enough and have the work experience or skills to get a more pleasing job. A big part of life is delaying gratification for future prosperity. Having a plan will put you in control of your circumstances rather than the circumstances controling you.

 

[ArchmagePrincess]

Rather than looking at work like it's a death sentence, look at it as a goal. Make money until you've saved enough and have the work experience or skills to get a more pleasing job. A big part of life is delaying gratification for future prosperity. Having a plan will put you in control of your circumstances rather than the circumstances controling you.

I don't know, reframing the idea can be helpful to cope short-term but you can't ignore that it is compulsory and unpleasant forever. In my experience, most people hate their jobs to some degree, sometimes to extreme degrees, and would be much less miserable without them. Making working a life goal seems pretty vapid to me. I want to do things like cook, paint, and write but not in the context of having to sell those things or work for a boss under stress to get by.

 

[The Howling Void]

Life just gets more monotonous and stressful. Working 9-5 really sucks. Plus you have things like debt and divorce and other soul crushing things to deal with later in life. Indeed: the debt and the divorce are why I need to CTB. I'm fucked, and I need to die before the chickens come home to roost. I don't want to die but my future is too bleak to face.

 

[Azora]

I don't know, reframing the idea can be helpful to cope short-term but you can't ignore that it is compulsory and unpleasant forever. In my experience, most people hate their jobs to some degree, sometimes to extreme degrees, and would be much less miserable without them. Making working a life goal seems pretty vapid to me. I want to do things like cook, paint, and write but not in the context of having to sell those things or work for a boss under stress to get by.

There are lots of jobs these days that let you work from home. My brother started work as a software engineer working a really boring office job, but after 4 years he was promoted to senior analyst and they let him work from home. He's now freelancing and does whatever he wants.

I know sometimes work can feel like an oppressive force, but there are options out there, believe it or not.

 

[momdontcryplease]

That's only if you're smart enough and have the money to get education. Not all of us can just become software engineers.

 

[ArchmagePrincess]

That's only if you're smart enough and have the money to get education. Not all of us can just become software engineers.

I tried studying to get even the most basic of IT certifications and I just stank at it. I don't have the aptitude for it. Literally, not everyone can become workers-from-home with decent income. Someone's gotta be the fast food fry cook and the retail front desk person. I totally agree. And in the US college is ridiculously expensive.

 

[endless_pain]

There are lots of jobs these days that let you work from home. My brother started work as a software engineer working a really boring office job, but after 4 years he was promoted to senior analyst and they let him work from home. He's now freelancing and does whatever he wants.

I know sometimes work can feel like an oppressive force, but there are options out there, believe it or not.

I know there could be some ways to have freedom later, but not too late, and that is the one reason I do not ctb today otherwise I would have been already long gone.

But still coming from a really bad situation at home it's a lot of sufference to carry on while working toward your potential plan for freedom. Who said it would have been easy although it's a pain and that is life to some extent. Even successful people have admitted that life is pain but they still live it, in a narcissistic way. I have seen some people that care only about money and success, but are empty inside, and I believe that's mostly society today. There are exceptions I must say though.

Very few people today can enjoy freedom, using money as a tool to live, the others suffer and are stuck in a cycle of slavery. Maybe they have love but life is still a pain and happiness cycle for them. Not black and white thinking, others are too in the process but it's undeniably a lot of pain for some people. Not everyone start from a loving family and can work their freedom through the years, maybe after getting a degree too after knowing their carrier path. Many of us I believe have also a lot of obstacles that harden even more and more the process, that's why ctb it's still in the options. But at the same time I don't like excuses and I take responsibility but it's still undeniably hard and sometimes it's torture.

That's the hard truth I believe.

Thank you for your answers btw, I appreciate it

 

[epic]

The thought of living working in a 9 to 5 every day terrifies me.
Like I haven't suffered already.
They tell you when school finishes (already done for me), it will get better. But then you realize the slave cycle continues, like you never reach freedom. Only when you are too old and fragile to even enjoy a bit of this life.
One of the reasons I am struggling with my future. Also because for your independence from your toxic family you need to be economically indipendent. As I have experienced, even staying away from them and working got me so stressed I would ctb several times.
I could never imagine a single day living for decades working in a job as a slave, like life has not been hard and cruel with us already.

The good news is , based on what's happening with AI and automation . We will eventually move towards less working hours or a universal basic income model. Bad news is it's still years off maybe even decades.

I don't agree with the slave analogy. Employees (at least in US) are making a voluntary contract with their employer knowing fully well what they are putting in and how much they are getting out including overtime where they are paid 50% more. The problem is more fundamental to biology and the environment. Some people can work 80 hrs+ a week and some barely get by doing 40 . Some people are born in a toxic environment and don't develop skills or temperament to work required hours.

A good compromise for you might be to work part-time and lower material expectations .
PS: It sucks that it has to be you and others don't have to make these compromises . Nature is unfair.

 

[endless_pain]

The good news is , based on what's happening with AI and automation . We will eventually move towards less working hours or a universal basic income model. Bad news is it's still years off maybe even decades.

I don't agree with the slave analogy. Employees (at least in US) are making a voluntary contract with their employer knowing fully well what they are putting in and how much they are getting out including overtime where they are paid 50% more. The problem is more fundamental to biology and the environment. Some people can work 80 hrs+ a week and some barely get by doing 40 . Some people are born in a toxic environment and don't develop skills or temperament to work required hours.

A good compromise for you might be to work part-time and lower material expectations .
PS: It sucks that it has to be you and others don't have to make these compromises . Nature is unfair.

Yeah referring to low paying jobs where you receive a salary just to survive and nothing more. I mean without a job what could you do if you don't have money. In the past they were giving you shelter and food now they give you just a salary and you still have to spend it on basic needs to survive every day.
For sure with high skill jobs you would be paid out more but still if you don't like what you do it's pain.
Just a few people enjoy what they do and grow toward freedom and manifest the values they have.
Compromising is the only option at first, but for a lifetime would be not worth it. For me it's live the life you want or die.