Can you fly with N? Peru to Europe flight?

[Esokabat]

Hi Everyone, I am going blind due to glaucoma so I need to act fast. I am ready to get on a flight to Peru in the next few weeks but I cannot figure out the logistics.
I live in Europe and I have no relatives or any connections in the country I live in. My parents live in a different country. I have a house with a bank morgage. I cannot leave my parents with a morgage as they live in a different country, elderly, don't speak the language, have no money and unable to travel. So my house would need to be sold and the morgage paid off.

However what do I do? Sell it before I go to Peru? It can take several months. But what if I cannot find N, and I already sold my house and I am essentially homeless.

Or if I don't sell my house and do find N in Peru, I would need to take the N back to Europe. But is this even realistic? How do I do this? I need help with logisitics!

(I am also on the autism spectrum and I have very severe noise sensitivity during sleep so once I sell my house, finding suitable accomodation will be extremely difficult for me. Currently I had my bedroom sound insulated and this works for me, hence I would love to not sell my house until the last minute). Ideas? How to solve this?

 

[Tesha]

You don't need to sell first if you're planning on returning to Europe (presumably that's where your home is).

N can't legally be brought back, so you'd have to do a bit of planning to disguise it as something else. You could repackage it - depending on what N you find they can look like the bottles of fragrance used for reed diffusers. However, if you get caught it's a massive legal risk and depending on which country you're travelling to, can mean a long prison sentence.

 

[Esokabat]

You don't need to sell first if you're planning on returning to Europe (presumably that's where your home is).

N can't legally be brought back, so you'd have to do a bit of planning to disguise it as something else. You could repackage it - depending on what N you find they can look like the bottles of fragrance used for reed diffusers. However, if you get caught it's a massive legal risk and depending on which country you're travelling to, can mean a long prison sentence.

Wow. A long prison sentence is too terrifying to risk... What do you think of this scenario? I go to Peru, I buy N, I put N into storage locker, pay advance for a year, go back to Europe, sell house, pay the bank, cancel credit cards, insurance, get a lawyer, create a will, might take up to a year to sell house, then go back to Peru to CTB. Would that work? I have not seen anyone doing it but this is the only thing I can think of right now...

 

[Erick]

Wow. A long prison sentence is too terrifying to risk... What do you think of this scenario? I go to Peru, I buy N, I put N into storage locker, pay advance for a year, go back to Europe, sell house, pay the bank, cancel credit cards, insurance, get a lawyer, create a will, might take up to a year to sell house, then go back to Peru to CTB. Would that work? I have not seen anyone doing it but this is the only thing I can think of right now...

I've seen some people in this forum who managed to take their N back to their country easily. Two of them put the N in an alcohol bottle.

 

[Esokabat]

I've seen some people in this forum who managed to take their N back to their country easily. Two of them put the N in an alcohol bottle.

But would't removing the liquid from its original bottle and putting it into a different bottle degrade the substance? Otherwise the alcohol bottle sounds like a great idea

 

[Erick]

But would't removing the liquid from its original bottle and putting it into a different bottle degrade the substance? Otherwise the alcohol bottle sounds like a great idea

This is what the author of the book Final Exit answered when he was asked about removing the liquid from its original bottom and put into a different bottle...
If then kept tightly bottled, the Nembutal would be effective after one month but risky using it after that.

 

[sanitystruggle]

However, if you get caught it's a massive legal risk and depending on which country you're travelling to, can mean a long prison sentence.

I strongly doubt that any country in Europe would sentence you to prison for importing a personal quantity of N, and certainly not a long prison sentence. Most likely would be forfeiture of the contraband and a formal reprimand or warning. In the UK I doubt they'd even bother to caution you for it.

If then kept tightly bottled, the Nembutal would be effective after one month but risky using it after that.

I think this is probably over-cautious. It's from a reply to a comment on the author's blog:

Danger of underdose with Mexican vet. Nembutal | Assisted-Dying Blog

There has been a lot of talk recently of getting from Mexico bottles of veterinary Nembutal for self-deliverance. Some reports claim one bottle is enough. True, one bottle of veterinary Nembutal (6 gms) will end the life of a frail, elderly person already close to death, but a physically strong...

assisted-dying.org

But it doesn't cite any particular source for the conclusion. Various studies have shown N to be fairly stable in a variety of formulations. If you kept it sealed in an amber glass/plastic container I think it would be fine for a lot longer than a month, especially if you refrigerated it once you got back home.

 

[Esokabat]

This is what the author of the book Final Exit answered when he was asked about removing the liquid from its original bottom and put into a different bottle...
If then kept tightly bottled, the Nembutal would be effective after one month but risky using it after that.

That is very useful!

I strongly doubt that any country in Europe would sentence you to prison for importing a personal quantity of N, and certainly not a long prison sentence. Most likely would be forfeiture of the contraband and a formal reprimand or warning. In the UK I doubt they'd even bother to caution you for it.



I think this is probably over-cautious. It's from a reply to a comment on the author's blog:

Danger of underdose with Mexican vet. Nembutal | Assisted-Dying Blog

There has been a lot of talk recently of getting from Mexico bottles of veterinary Nembutal for self-deliverance. Some reports claim one bottle is enough. True, one bottle of veterinary Nembutal (6 gms) will end the life of a frail, elderly person already close to death, but a physically strong...

assisted-dying.org

But it doesn't cite any particular source for the conclusion. Various studies have shown N to be fairly stable in a variety of formulations. If you kept it sealed in an amber glass/plastic container I think it would be fine for a lot longer than a month, especially if you refrigerated it once you got back home.

I strongly doubt that any country in Europe would sentence you to prison for importing a personal quantity of N, and certainly not a long prison sentence. Most likely would be forfeiture of the contraband and a formal reprimand or warning. In the UK I doubt they'd even bother to caution you for it.



I think this is probably over-cautious. It's from a reply to a comment on the author's blog:

Danger of underdose with Mexican vet. Nembutal | Assisted-Dying Blog

There has been a lot of talk recently of getting from Mexico bottles of veterinary Nembutal for self-deliverance. Some reports claim one bottle is enough. True, one bottle of veterinary Nembutal (6 gms) will end the life of a frail, elderly person already close to death, but a physically strong...

assisted-dying.org

But it doesn't cite any particular source for the conclusion. Various studies have shown N to be fairly stable in a variety of formulations. If you kept it sealed in an amber glass/plastic container I think it would be fine for a lot longer than a month, especially if you refrigerated it once you got back home.

That was an interesting article to read, thank you. I saved the website.