disabledlife

disabledlife

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Can simple sommifers kill? Or an alternative to the N, SN, of a system for killing while sleeping.

I had thought of a system for sleeping with sleeping pills and a way to kill myself when I sleep (in a car for example), obviously alone with no one around or with carbon monoxide poisoning triggered during my sleep. Is it good? Obtaining N or SN remains extremely complicated unlike sleeping pills, but with the obligation to supplement it with a ctb means during sleep provided that it is automatic or programmed.

I would so much like to leave during sleep, a good sleep like when I was little where I almost died during a crisis of pulmonary disease, where I saw this famous tunnel EMP.

In all the videos, books and reports on PPE, everyone says that they do not want to come back alive, that coming back alive is a cold shower, a fall or a confinement in a body that is too small, that everyone feels good once gone. It's still overwhelming to hear these testimonies which shows that living is more painful than not living anymore. We end up leaving one day, so why not the day of our choice, and in the best possible way, in a comfortable way . I prefer to take the elevator than to take the stairs, to see climbing in dangerous and painful conditions.


Thank you for having seen my message and thank you in advance for the replies that will be made. :)
 
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Sommifers is so nonspecific that the question can't be answered. Barbiturates are excellent sleep inducing agents, but I know that is not what you mean. No commonly available sleep agent will cause death alone, and no commonly available agent can do what you are looking for (anesthesia) reliably. Additionally, people can have paradoxical reactions, such as sleep walking or making phone calls under their influence.

There was a thread on here a month or so ago about Valium + charcoal leading to severe burns and a failure. It is not that they cannot assist, and in certain situations they can help, such as high dose benzos with elavil. However, if you are looking for reliability, then you Can't be certain you would achieve this with an undefined sleep8ng pill.
 
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disabledlife

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Thank you for warning me that sleeping pills can cause reactions.

Suppose a way is found so that sleeping pills do not make movements or calls for example. During sleep without the possibility of waking up (I had thought about sleeping pills until you warn me of the risk of movement), staying in your dreams, is there a way to get BTC automatically by the means that I mentioned (sending neutral gas in a mask or Exit Bag for example)?
 
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Let me put it this way, an exit bag causes faster sleep than anything else out there. It may be possible with a central line and high dose of certain agents, but it is very close. In short, you will be unconscious from an exit bag in literally less than 10 or 15 seconds (and likely much faster than that) if done correctly.
 
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I don't mean to sound rude but if what you asked existed . that would be the only method advertised and everyone would use it. But basically you're asking for N which is obtainable if you live in the right country, have the money and tech skills to order it and it's not caught at customs.

exit bag is close but you have to obtain the proper gasses and be comfortable using a mask.

with that said, the resource page under the rules and FAQ list all the methods to read about.
 
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I had to give my idea to have opinions, thank you for your opinions. There is a point that worries me with the Exit Bag, it is that the manufacturers of helium bottles use oxygen to prevent all attempts of CTB.

Thank you for the resources, I will read them, hoping to find the best possible method since the N, the SN is difficult and expensive to obtain.

Too bad that also, there is no miracle recipe for a peaceful pill for the CTB, it is true that it would be known if this recipe would exist and that the scams to N or SN would decrease or even disappear.

Are recent cars to be avoided for CO poisoning? A possible alternative to the Exit Bag. If I park in a desolate place frequented by no one. I also read meagtreads or ressources for co poisoning. Don't need to respond. :)
 
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Recent cars are not great for CO. Exit bags can use nitrogen or argon, which can usually be obtained fairly easily (even onl8ne) depending on where you are located. I hate to mention it because it is unpleasant and dangerous for others, but the detergent method is talked about here.

the short answer is that no method is 100%. If you want to slip off into dreams, opioids are what you describe. If you want relatively easy and available, SN or exit bag.
 
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I have tried conventional sleeping pills before, they don't put you to sleep. The best way to describe it is with a lyric from a song by Nirvana: "I'm so tired I can't sleep." You feel fidgety, you hallucinate, you start shaking, and you feel like you just got hit with a tranquilizer but it's impossible to sleep. Not a method I would recommend. The truth is they just don't make the kind of sleeping pills that Marilyn Monroe overdosed on anymore.
 
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Thanks you for important details for sleeping pills with reverse effect and Marylin Monroe affair. I'm from France.
I am extremely sad that everything is done so that we are forced to live, oxygen in Helium bottle, grids on bridges, cameras on CTB areas, medical drugs dosed to prevent CTB... If the pro-lifes would handcuff us to force us to live they would, if they had the power to directly change the laws, they would.
 
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