Buying a gun. I think this is really it

[radicalfreedom]

I've been flirting with different methods for months, but after finding out that the laws in my state don't actually prevent me from owning a gun... I think this is it.

 

[Someone123]

I've been flirting with different methods for months, but after finding out that the laws in my state don't actually prevent me from owning a gun... I think this is it.

I would suggest going to youtibe and watching some videos of people who have survived gun suicide attempts- just search by "gun suicide attempt survivor". Many have their faces severly damaged and have years with many surgeries. It has maybe an 80% chance of working, but if you are in the 20% it is terrible. Sn and full suspension and some other methods have about the same reliability without the severe damage, in most cases, that results from a failed gun suicide attempt.

 

[Hopeless_brat]

I've been flirting with different methods for months, but after finding out that the laws in my state don't actually prevent me from owning a gun... I think this is it.

Buy nembutal instead

 

[Someone123]

Buy nembutal instead

If you try to buy N in the u.s. it will probably be intercepted based on recent posts, so it depends on which country you are in.

 

[Alex6216]

What type of gun are you buying?
Someone123 is posting misinformation, if you place a large caliber rifle 20 degrees in your mouth you wont ever fail. People only fail because they aim up from the chin and/or use a weak gun, aiming for the brain stem will 100% kill you.
Even if you flinch, the high caliber rifle wont miss because it wont just put a bullet straight through your head, it will literally blow your entire back-head off as demonstrated with this video

 

[Someone123]

What type of gun are you buying?
Someone123 is posting misinformation, if you place a large caliber rifle 20 degrees in your mouth you wont ever fail. People only fail because they aim up from the chin, aiming for the brain stem will 100% kill you.

I am not posting misinformation at all. If you search on youtube by "gun suicide attempt survivor" you will find many videos of people who have survived this method, many of whom have severe damage to their face. According to a Harvard study called "Lethality of Suicide Methods" in the U.S. this method works 82.5% of the time in the U.S., but of all the methods this method leaves the most damage when it doesn't work. People should know thw downside risks of any method, there is no method that works 100% of the time.

 

[Alex6216]

I am not posting misinformation at all. If you search on youtube by "sun suicide attempt survivor you will find many videos of people who have survived this method, many of whom have severe damage to their face. According to a Harvard study called "Lethality of Suicidde Methods" in the U.S. this method works 82.5% of the time in the U.S., but of all the methods this method leaves the most damage when it doesn't work. People should know thw downside risks of any method, there is no method that works 100% of the time.

it works 82.5% because people aim from the chin like the movies or they use a pistol. If you aim at a 20 degree angle in the mouth with a 7.62 rifle or 20GA shotgun you won't fail. A lot of methods don't work 100% but something that literally will blow your entire back side of the head will work 100% unless the gun jams. Have you seen the linked videos? The gun isnt putting a small clean hole through your head, it will literally explode.
Like I said DONT AIM AT THE CHIN, it will only blow your face and you'll live, aim inside your mouth AT a 20 degree angle, nothing will protect your brain stem and the spread/explosiveness of the gun will take out the consciousness side of the brain even if you flinch a bit

 

[NotTheOne]

I would suggest going to youtibe and watching some videos of people who have survived gun suicide attempts- just search by "gun suicide attempt survivor". Many have their faces severly damaged and have years with many surgeries. It has maybe an 80% chance of working, but if you are in the 20% it is terrible. Sn and full suspension and some other methods have about the same reliability without the severe damage, in most cases, that results from a failed gun suicide attempt.

The most incomprehensible thing is to fail by gun ...I think only aiming correctly and fix the gun to not be moved or shaken by strong tapes attached to the desk or something It seems impossible to fail

 

[Alex6216]

The most incomprehensible thing is to fail by gun ...I think only aiming correctly and fix the gun to not be moved or shaken by strong tapes attached to the desk or something It seems impossible to fail

You dont even need to fix the gun. If you're using a gun that uses 5.56, 7.62, 20GA, 12GA ammo the bullet will blast your entire back head off, so even if you flinch your brain stem (the important thing to destroy) will still be gone.

 

[Someone123]

The most incomprehensible thing is to fail by gun

Did you search on youtibe by "gun suicide attempt survivor" - there are many people here who have survived this method - I just loo9ked and saw a dozen different people who have survived this method before I stopped counting, all with severe damage from the gun. Why ignore the evidence- look and see for yourself.

 

[Alex6216]

Did you search on youtibe by "gun suicide attempt survivor" - there are many people here who have survived this method - I just loo9ked and saw a dozen different people who have survived this method before I stopped counting, all with severe damage from the gun. Why ignore the evidence- look and see for yourself.

I guarantee every single person who failed only failed because they used a pistol or placed the gun on their chin like the movies. I have never seen anyone fail killing themselves with a gun in the way I said

 

[Someone123]

it works 82.5% because people aim from the chin like the movies or they use a pistol. If you aim at a 20 degree angle in the mouth with a 7.62 rifle or 20GA shotgun you won't fail.

MOst people who use this method use a pistol, but there was a video on this site somewherre, it is probably still here, of a guy who survived a shotgun attempt who blew off his whole face-[ due to recoil it is not always sure where the shot will go. This is a risky method.

 

[Alex6216]

MOst people who use this method use a pistol, but there was a video on this site somewherre, it is probably still here, of a guy who survived a shotgun attempt who blew off his whole face-[ due to recoil it is not always sure where the shot will go. This is a risky method.

I saw the exact same video, the man blew his face off BECAUSE he placed the barrel of the shotgun ON HIS CHIN. I said it before and I'll say it again, NEVER PLACE A GUN IN YOUR CHIN, PLACE IT AT A 20 DEGREE ANGLE INSIDE YOUR MOUTH. You wont EVER fail if the gun is 15-25 degrees inside your mouth because the brain isnt protected from the inside of your mouth, the bullet will blow your entire back head off and you will be dead

 

[Someone123]

I saw the exact same video, the man blew his face off BECAUSE he placed the barrel of the shotgun ON HIS CHIN. I said it before and I'll say it again, NEVER PLACE A GUN IN YOUR CHIN, PLACE IT AT A 20 DEGREE ANGLE INSIDE YOUR MOUTH. You wont EVER fail if the gun is 15-25 degrees inside your mouth because the brain isnt protected from the inside of your mouth, the bullet will blow your entire back head off and you will be dead

Many people survive attempts like this if they use a handgun, it's very difficult to hit the brainstem with a handgun, it is only 1/2" wide amd due t recoil it is so easy to miss. With the video we talked about with the shotgun- did recoil cause the gun to move forward? Maybe. It's important to be aware of the downside risks of any method and to let go of the idea that any method works 100% of the time, because there is no such thing.

 

[waitingforrest]

It's horrible how we have to resort to more violent, but more sucessful methods to ctb.

I don't want to suggest to look up images or just searching it up if you aren't okay with the chance of seeing gore by accident.

Just quotes from gut ctbs med reports as I just feel weird putting it in. I'm sure you can reverse search the articles if you want to.

just know, obviously surviving isn't going to be very fun.

Spoiler: Quotes from medical studies

''The ability of any penetrating object to penetrate the brain and causing primary brain injury is dependent on the ballistic properties i.e..kinetic energy, mass of projectile, velocity, shape, angle of approach''

''1. Low velocity: usually fires at less than 1000 feet per second (<300 m/sec) .g. handguns or hand sizes 22, 38 and 9mm.

2. Medium velocity: maximum speed range is1000 to 2000 feet per second (300 to 600 m / sec e.g. submachine guns.

3. High velocity: More than 2000 feet per second (600 to 1000 m/sec) as the AK-47, G-3 or Galil. These possessing properties i.e. Oscillation, rotation, and fragmentation making much more lethal.''

''All patients in this study (n = 18) were men with a mean age of 47.2 years. Eight patients (44.4%) displayed submental missile entry points, 7 (38.9%) displayed intraoral entry points, and 3 (16.7%) displayed pericranial entry points.''

''Survival rate was significantly increased in patients with injury limited to one lobe of the brain, compared with patients with brain wounds of greater severity demonstrated on computerized tomographic scan (P < .05), while a missile crossing both vertical anatomic planes of the brain or coming to rest in the posterior fossa was lethal in 100% of cases.''

 

[Someone123]

It's just that a method like Sn works about the same % of the time as a gun, with very little downside risk if it fails.

 

[LifeHasNoOptIn]

Giving a blowie to a 12 gauge or high power rifle is going to work 100%. There will be an awful mess, but unless the ammo is bad or the gun jams you will not survive and it will be instant with no time for your brain to comprehend what happened. Handguns not quite as reliable, but the odds are still very high. If you want to increase the odds for a handgun, ingesting some SN before the deed should drop your odds of survival even further.

 

[Someone123]

but unless the ammo is bad or the gun jams

These are exceptions that will happen some of the time, so it's not 100%.

Handguns not quite as reliable, but the odds are still very high

I did a lot of research on handguns, there was no angle much more reliable than 80%- from the side, in the mouth, etc. I looked at a lot of medical research papers while considering this method. If a person know what they are doing with a shotgun they might get to 99%, but most suicide attempts with guns are by handguns- very ofetn by people who do not know much about guns, so this lowers their chances even further.

ingesting some SN before the deed should drop your odds of survival even further.

Truly I don't thinki this will help- Sn takes long time of blood circulating to work, and the gun stops the blood circulating right away.

 

[Ligottian]

In 1984, American actor John-Erik Hexum shot himself in the head on a movie set with a blank round fired from a .44 Magnum pistol. The muzzle bast caused enough blunt force trauma to kill him.

 

[Someone123]

In 1984, American actor John-Erik Hexum shot himself in the head on a movie set with a blank round fired from a .44 Magnum pistol. The muzzle bast caused enough blunt force trauma to kill him.

Of course it is a high percentage method, but in the cases it doesn;t work it leaves so much trauma behind. Some other methods are just as high of a cercentage to work iwthout all of this trauma if they fail.

 

[FuneralCry]

The gun sounds like a terrifying method to me and I think that if I had access to it, I would not be able to ctb that way as I would be scared of it going wrong. I wish you relief from your suffering in whatever you decide to do.

 

[DreamingOfAutumn]

Many people survive attempts like this if they use a handgun, it's very difficult to hit the brainstem with a handgun, it is only 1/2" wide amd due t recoil it is so easy to miss. With the video we talked about with the shotgun- did recoil cause the gun to move forward? Maybe. It's important to be aware of the downside risks of any method and to let go of the idea that any method works 100% of the time, because there is no such thing.

The gun recoils after the shot leaves the barrel, and it doesn't move any significant amount beforehand. Both the weapon and your head being steady are what's relevant, but honestly with a shotgun it will completely destroy whatever region of the brain you're aiming it at, and is quite likely to blow your head into pieces. I've also never seen a case of someone aiming a shotgun even in the general direction of their brainstem and surviving, although I wouldn't say it's impossible. Frankly I'm fairly certain that the only real risk of failure would be due to bad ammo. If you did this in a relatively isolated location the only methods which might be more reliable involve blowing your entire body to pieces with high explosives, or jumping head first off a skyscraper. Although the latter is debatable, as people have survived falling from such heights before, and it would be possible for someone's body to hit in a different position than intended. My point is that it's very close to the most reliable method in existence if you both know where to aim, and you're using a sufficiently powerful firearm.

However I'm not suggesting that anyone do anything. On a similar topic if you intend to use a gun to ctb all the more reason to understand how to do so properly, and to be doubly sure that's what you want, as there is absoultely no way to take it back once you pull the trigger.

 

[Interloper]

as there is absolutely no way to take it back once you pull the trigger.

Which is also a boon in a way. No chance of rescue, unlike the short period of time in SN/N's case.

 

[Someone123]

The gun recoils after the shot leaves the barrel, and it doesn't move any significant amount beforehand. Both the weapon and your head being steady are what's relevant, but honestly with a shotgun it will completely destroy whatever region of the brain you're aiming it at, and is quite likely to blow your head into pieces. I've also never seen a case of someone aiming a shotgun even in the general direction of their brainstem and surviving, although I wouldn't say it's impossible. Frankly I'm fairly certain that the only real risk of failure would be due to bad ammo. If you did this in a relatively isolated location the only methods which might be more reliable involve blowing your entire body to pieces with high explosives, or jumping head first off a skyscraper. Although the latter is debatable, as people have survived falling from such heights before, and it would be possible for someone's body to hit in a different position than intended. My point is that it's very close to the most reliable method in existence if you both know where to aim, and you're using a sufficiently powerful firearm.

However I'm not suggesting that anyone do anything. On a similar topic if you intend to use a gun to ctb all the more reason to understand how to do so properly, and to be doubly sure that's what you want, as there is absoultely no way to take it back once you pull the trigger.

Using a handgun many people survive ctb attempts by gun, look at the many survivors on youtube- some with chunks out their head blown out or with half their faces blown off- even if you put the gun inside the mouth sometimes it just takes out a chunk out the head and people survive. If people shoot for the brainstem, which is 1/2" wide, sometime they miss and it goes out the neck. MOst firearm suicide attempts are by handgun, and there is serious damage when these attempts fail.

The gun recoils after the shot leaves the barrel, and it doesn't move any significant amount beforehand.

Recoil starts when the gunpowder is ignited but since the bullet moves so fast it doesn't move the gun much before the bullet leaves but it does move some, a firm grip on the weapon can lessen this. I watched a slo-mo video by a gun expert on youtube to see this.

 

[DreamingOfAutumn]

Using a handgun many people survive ctb attempts by gun, look at the many survivors on youtube- some with chunks out their head blown out or with half their faces blown off- even if you put the gun inside the mouth sometimes it just takes out a chunk out the head and people survive. If people shoot for the brainstem, which is 1/2" wide, sometime they miss and it goes out the neck. MOst firearm suicide attempts are by handgun, and there is serious damage when these attempts fail.

I don't disagree with any of that, and honestly I would suggest against using a handgun unless you're very confident in your aim. Statistically, shooting yourself in the head with a handgun is still very likely to kill you, but those aren't dice I'd personally be willing to roll. It's much more difficult to hit a target with a smaller projectile as opposed to a larger one, or with one projectile as opposed to many. And if your aim isn't good, you can't rely on the bullet causing enough trauma to reliably kill you that way. If you only have one shot and it's going to decide whether you're able to ctb, or whether you survive with permanent damage/disability, it seems to me that it would be best to use the most reliable/powerful weapon available.

Recoil starts when the gunpowder is ignited but since the bullet moves so fast it doesn't move the gun much before the bullet leaves but it does move some, a firm grip on the weapon can lessen this. I watched a slo-mo video by a gun expert on youtube to see this.

Yeah the speed of the projectile far outpaces the backwards momentum. What I would do is use one hand to hold the gun in place, and have it's stock positioned against the ground, a wall, or a tree. But I'd be more worried about my head moving rather than the weapon.

 

[Ligottian]

My plan:

1: .357 Magnum loaded with hollow point bullets.
2: I lie on the floor on my side and place gun above my ear.
3: Hold gun tightly against my head.
4: Pull trigger.

Is this pretty much fool proof?

 

[Alex6216]

My plan:

1: .357 Magnum loaded with hollow point bullets.
2: I lie on the floor on my side and place gun above my ear.
3: Hold gun tightly against my head.
4: Pull trigger.

Is this pretty much fool proof?

In my opinion, I think it's foolproof. Look up images of the brain stem on whatever search browser you use to get a good idea to where to aim. You can also look at the image posted here and aim in the mouth but aiming around the ear area is good too

 

[betternever2havbeen]

I don't have access to a gun but if I did I think I would combine it with a noose so if the gun didn't finish me off the noose would. Do you guys think that would work in theory if I was to try it. Gunshot to the temple, forces pushes you off chair/tree etc. and hanging makes sure you're dead 2 attempts in one. I couldn't use a shotgun or aim a gun in my mouth I don't think but I feel like temple I could do. I wish I had a gun just to know I had a way out if I ever get that bad. No way you could survive a gunshot AND hanging right?

 

[Someone123]

In my opinion, I think it's foolproof. Look up images of the brain stem on whatever search browser you use to get a good idea to where to aim. You can also look at the image posted here and aim in the mouth but aiming around the ear area is good too

95% likely to work, maybe 98%, but not 100% most likely- people survive gunshots wounds from every angle, I gave up on this method because I did a lotg of research in medical journals and no matter the angle some people survive. Of course with that caliber and hollow pooint it helps a lot. The brain stem is so small that you cannot be sure of hitting it, the main way this would work is by causing severe damage to both hemispheres.

 

[19860418]

it works 82.5% because people aim from the chin like the movies or they use a pistol. If you aim at a 20 degree angle in the mouth with a 7.62 rifle or 20GA shotgun you won't fail. A lot of methods don't work 100% but something that literally will blow your entire back side of the head will work 100% unless the gun jams. Have you seen the linked videos? The gun isnt putting a small clean hole through your head, it will literally explode.
Like I said DONT AIM AT THE CHIN, it will only blow your face and you'll live, aim inside your mouth AT a 20 degree angle, nothing will protect your brain stem and the spread/explosiveness of the gun will take out the consciousness side of the brain even if you flinch a bit

I bought a 9mm pistol for this. Wouldn't this be enough?