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babybrie

babybrie

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I feel like my situation is different than a lot of others on here. I have always had a really good life that I loved until 2 years ago when I made the biggest mistake ever. I had a botched rhinoplasty. I just wanted a small change, but the surgeon made drastic changes I didn't consent to. My nose is now too small for my face, scarred, and disfigured. He gave me a piggy ski slope, pinched tip, and cut off my nostrils. I spent 2 years consulting revision surgeons all over the world and they say I can have improvement, but can never return to my original nose or beauty. I honestly feel like I would rather die and be at peace than spend thousands of dollars on reconstructive surgery just so I can have a slightly less disfigured nose. Either way I feel like I lose in this situation. My quality of life has diminished drastically. I lost my job and no longer see friends and barely leave my home from embarrassment. Seeing my own reflection now is painful and surreal. People say I need to be strong and move on with life, that there are more important things, but they do not understand what it's like to be in this situation. I have SN and want so bad to take it but I back out when I start to think how will my family feel? I don't want to traumatize them further with my death, especially my dad. He did everything he could and sacrificed to give me a great life. I don't want to hurt them but I also honestly do not know how I can continue living in a ruined body. I wish this were all easier somehow.
 
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WornOutLife

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Your situation might be different than others' here but it makes a lot of sense you're in pain.
I would be very depressed and angry if the same had happened to me.
I just gained like 40 pounds during the last 2 years and that made more suicidal. Imagine a botched cosmetic surgery!

However, you're still here, fighting somehow. You're really strong.

I'm glad you've had a good life and lovely family. Just look at it this way: things could've been worse.
You're not alone and that's a lot.

Whatever you do, I just wish you the best and if there's anything I can do to make you feel better, please, let me know.

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Umbreon

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Aug 20, 2020
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Can't relate to a botched surgery. But I can relate to constantly worrying and hating how you look. I developed psoriasis when I was young and have had red flaky patches on my face and body ever since. It also is itchy so I constantly look awkward.
 
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Makko

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Jan 17, 2021
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Is suing the surgeon an option?
 
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Greenberg

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I sense that you are female and young. Society is so shallow and attributes value upon ladies based on their degree of attractiveness. Cosmetic surgery promises an idealized appearance we judge as beautiful or handsome.

A person's face is the first body part that another person looks at during a close encounter; and within a split second, an assessment is made on that person based on societal stereotypes. In that infinitesimal iota of time, all other virtuous attributes of that individual are minimized: virtues like kindness, compassion, intelligence, etc.

Your situation is a tragic accident. Please note that I used the word, "accident." Accidents can happen to anyone. Yes, I appreciate that you had pursued and consented to the surgery. I am sure that the surgeon did not intentionally deface your appearance. He may be incompetent but not malicious. So how should one proceed...?

First and foremost, many, many people from all walks of life have lived happy and productive lives after a botched procedure. I do not think that it would be prudent to pursue more surgery as you had mentioned the "damage" is not amendable. If possible, you can try to mitigate the situation by wearing a prosthetic.

Notwithstanding what you do, you need to seek help. What you are experiencing now is trauma from the aftermath of the surgery. Your trauma is so severe that it has brought you here to this site. I suggest that you speak to a counselor or psychologist about your insecurities and embarrassments. I sincerely believe that in time you will come to accept yourself again and grow even more as a human being. One more thing...you are the same beautiful person now as you were prior to the surgery.
 
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Makko

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Society is so shallow and attributes value upon ladies based on their degree of attractiveness. Cosmetic surgery promises an idealized appearance we judge as beautiful or handsome.
I'd kill myself if someone mutilated my face. I'd kill the surgeon first though. You can't overestimate the importance of appearance, especially to women. A psychologist won't fix the looks you get on the street if your face is deformed. People talk about psychologists like they're wizards whose mind voodoo can make any problem under the sun go away, I don't get this at all.

@babybrie Do what you can to fix whatever can be fixed. Pay whatever it costs. You may not be able to go back to the way you were, but you have to salvage whatever you can of your dignity as a woman. The end result might still be a scar but it'll be a battle scar. You'll be a survivor.

You should still look into the prospect of suing the surgeon. Don't put this off, there may be statutes (or contract provisions) of limitation kicking in.
 
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Greenberg

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I'd kill myself if someone mutilated my face. I'd kill the surgeon first though. You can't overestimate the importance of appearance, especially to women. A psychologist won't fix the looks you get on the street if your face is deformed. People talk about psychologists like they're wizards whose mind voodoo can make any problem under the sun go away, I don't get this at all.

@babybrie Do what you can to fix whatever can be fixed. Pay whatever it costs. You may not be able to go back to the way you were, but you have to salvage whatever you can of your dignity as a woman. The end result might still be a scar but it'll be a battle scar. You'll be a survivor.

You should still look into the prospect of suing the surgeon. Don't put this off, there may be statutes (or contract provisions) of limitation kicking in.
I respect our difference in opinion but I disagree with your proposed course of action: anger, rage, and retribution will only beget more malcontent.
 
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the_final_countdown

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Is there any way you can get a prosthetic?
 
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Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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Inner strength differs in each of us. There are those that are disfigured for a wide variety of reasons and get through each day. I hope you can find your strength and live a good life.
 
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Leiden

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Sep 1, 2020
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I'm so sorry @babybrie that this has happened to you. The Dr should have his license taken away! What a horrible thing to be going through. I would definitely look into suing him/her. I know it's hard to do anything when you are in such a bad place, but if you can manage, It's definitely something you should do. Also, I think you should look to get it fixed, you may not have the same nose as before, but it might be able to be fixed to something that you actually can feel good about. At this point, you have nothing to lose and if you have the money then go for it. There is still hope ❤️
 
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Makko

Makko

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I respect our difference in opinion but I disagree with your proposed course of action: anger, rage, and retribution will only beget more malcontent.
I didn't propose anger, rage and retribution. I proposed tangible measures and a possibility to get money to cover the costs.
 
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Into The Void

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Mar 10, 2021
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I feel like my situation is different than a lot of others on here. I have always had a really good life that I loved until 2 years ago when I made the biggest mistake ever. I had a botched rhinoplasty. I just wanted a small change, but the surgeon made drastic changes I didn't consent to. My nose is now too small for my face, scarred, and disfigured. He gave me a piggy ski slope, pinched tip, and cut off my nostrils. I spent 2 years consulting revision surgeons all over the world and they say I can have improvement, but can never return to my original nose or beauty. I honestly feel like I would rather die and be at peace than spend thousands of dollars on reconstructive surgery just so I can have a slightly less disfigured nose. Either way I feel like I lose in this situation. My quality of life has diminished drastically. I lost my job and no longer see friends and barely leave my home from embarrassment. Seeing my own reflection now is painful and surreal. People say I need to be strong and move on with life, that there are more important things, but they do not understand what it's like to be in this situation. I have SN and want so bad to take it but I back out when I start to think how will my family feel? I don't want to traumatize them further with my death, especially my dad. He did everything he could and sacrificed to give me a great life. I don't want to hurt them but I also honestly do not know how I can continue living in a ruined body. I wish this were all easier somehow.
Sorry for your troubles, I know it's a lot to deal with. But honestly, it seems like something you should be able to get over. I never suffered from a botched cosmetic job, but I did deal with crippling self esteem issues as a child, I was bullied, my dad beat me, he was discouraged from raising a family or going to college, and even just having a GF. And now I'm pretty much over it. You gotta let go and stop judging yourself by your appearance so much. Ultimately the choice is yours, but I'd try hard to get past it. Just keep in mind it's children and teens that are the worse judges of appearance, adults for the most part don't give a shit if your disfigured,
 
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I don't know if this helps or not, but maybe in America it is different than in Asia, where plastic surgery is more common. For example, in places like korea and China, it is so common, that no one would probably even take a double take. And just saying, I've seen some Chinese people that have gotten, eyes, nose, chin, jaw, AND forehead done (and you can tell), and they are literally praised as the standard for beauty. It tool me a bit to understand and get used to, but it's so commom to even me now, that I don't even consider it anymore. I don't know if I can use acne as an example, but i had bad acne for a long time until i finally broke and slapped some prescribed chemicals on my face. I always felt ugly and would hide my face. But, I mean, now my skin is clearer, but i realized the acne isn't what made me hide, but the self hate was. The self hate never went away and I still feel like trash on the daily. sigh...
I've seen many people with your similar predicament in Asia, but like i said, it's the complete opposite there. Almost strange if you *don't* have surgery atleast once.
i would sue that surgeon, and if you're up for it, go to a better surgeon and see if they might be able to correct it.

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And I want to add something someone told me. They said, there is no point in aligning or holding yourself to society's standards for looks, because it is always changing. At one point in the early 2000s, being super skinny was the trend. Now, being thick and full figured is the trend. When you think about it, it's all pretty stupid. Like how dare society tell me I'm not good enough, it's NEVER their right to tell you how to look. At this point, in my 20s, I don't follow trends anymore. I do my hair the way I like, dress the way I like too. And guess what? People wouldn't dare say anything to me, or you.
 
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fixitinpost

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Oct 20, 2020
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I'm sorry this happened to you @babybrie. This is not your mistake. Don't you think reconstructive surgery would make things at least a little better for you? Even if you won't get your nose back the way it was, an improvement may give you some confidence back. I know it may feel like you don't have the energy to think about legal action, but I agree with those who have recommended looking into it. Common sense would dictate that you shouldn't have to cover the cost of someone else's fuck-up.
 
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xBrialesana

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Dec 17, 2019
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Is suing the surgeon an option?

This^??? look into it!

I am SO sorry this happened to you :aw::aw: That breaks my heart. I have a rhinoplasty in two weeks (cosmetically but i also literally can't breathe so i'm having surgery any way. i don't think i'll be hear long but my try to get some quality air for once lol). but i am SO sorry. what Makko said, see if you have a case. If there's anything you're SURE you didn't consent to (you might have to look through the hundreds of papers I'm sure you've signed)
 
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fastgoodcheap

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Dec 22, 2020
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I also have a botched plastic surgery. I had a scar revision on my upper arm and now the scar is bigger and worse looking. Now my arm looks disfigured and I can't even look at myself in the mirror or shower. I'm so angry at the surgeon and have regret. My scar wasn't even that bad before. I was fine living with it. But the doctor gave me the idea of having a thinner, less noticeable scar. The only thing that helps me accept it is at least I still have my arm! I'm thinking to get a tattoo over it to help camouflage it, but I'm afraid I'll regret that too. I also have some self harm scars that are 16 years old that I regret as well. I'm trying to figure out how to diminish them more. I think I'll try again to fix these scars. I know they'll never go away, but if I can find something that I'm satisfied with, then maybe I'll find it worth living a little longer.

consider the revision op!
 
Greenberg

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nitrogenexit.blogspot.com
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I also have a botched plastic surgery. I had a scar revision on my upper arm and now the scar is bigger and worse looking. Now my arm looks disfigured and I can't even look at myself in the mirror or shower. I'm so angry at the surgeon and have regret. My scar wasn't even that bad before. I was fine living with it. But the doctor gave me the idea of having a thinner, less noticeable scar. The only thing that helps me accept it is at least I still have my arm! I'm thinking to get a tattoo over it to help camouflage it, but I'm afraid I'll regret that too. I also have some self harm scars that are 16 years old that I regret as well. I'm trying to figure out how to diminish them more. I think I'll try again to fix these scars. I know they'll never go away, but if I can find something that I'm satisfied with, then maybe I'll find it worth living a little longer.

consider the revision op!
Not to diminish the seriousness of your disfigurement on your arm. Please be mindful that the OP has a disfigured nose which is difficult if not impossible to conceal during face-to-face encounters (post-pandemic). Whereas with your upper arm, you can always wear long or longer sleeve shirts.
 
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Jan 25, 2019
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I understand your pain very well because I was botched in September 2019.
I have botched nose, forehead and hairline.
I can't look at the mirror in good lighting without wanting to die immediately.
I never dated or had sex after the surgery and still very suicidal and depressed.
I don't even want to try to fix it because it's so bad I don't believe it's fixable.
Plastic surgery industry is extremely dangerous but you won't hear about it a lot because of shame and victim blaming.
It's considered cosmetic and all the ruined lives are just swiped under the rug by greedy plastic surgery industry.
They won't tell you the truth, they use marketing and heavily deceptive advertising to lure insecure people.

Being a victim of plastic surgery is extremely isolation because most people can't comprehend this experience of losing your face, your beauty, your confidence, self love and all the trauma that comes with it .
I think about suicide almost daily.
Yesterday I looked for a tree to hang myself.
 
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Not to diminish the seriousness of your disfigurement on your arm. Please be mindful that the OP has a disfigured nose which is difficult if not impossible to conceal during face-to-face encounters (post-pandemic). Whereas with your upper arm, you can always wear long or longer sleeve shirts.
You're right. I didn't meant to compare the scar on my arm to OP's nose. It was more about the experience that I relate to.

I'm glad you shared your story with us OP! Even though it's an f'd up situation, i feel more validated hearing from someone going through a similar experience. As a woman, physical appearances are extremely important. People constantly ask about my scar and what happened and it makes me feel like a disgusting freak. Sometimes they make jokes too which makes me feel worse. I know the scar on my arm can't compare to the one of your face, but just thought I'd share my story if it helps any or someone else that comes across this post. People are cruel and I wish they could just recognize that it's even more difficult for me to accept my scar when they keep looking at it and not at me. It's also hard for me to trust a new plastic surgeon to correct my scar because of how horrible the first one went.

I suggest leaving a negative review of the surgeon on Google and other review sites. With details and photos and all to help prevent it from happening to someone else!
 
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LastFlowers

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Sorry for your troubles, I know it's a lot to deal with. But honestly, it seems like something you should be able to get over. I never suffered from a botched cosmetic job, but I did deal with crippling self esteem issues as a child, I was bullied, my dad beat me, he was discouraged from raising a family or going to college, and even just having a GF. And now I'm pretty much over it. You gotta let go and stop judging yourself by your appearance so much. Ultimately the choice is yours, but I'd try hard to get past it. Just keep in mind it's children and teens that are the worse judges of appearance, adults for the most part don't give a shit if your disfigured,
You have never had your face hacked nor have you permanently altered the very thing that people conflate with your identity (which individuals also use to identity themselves constantly), they're not the one who started the judgement process.
The choice isn't theirs, if the choice was theirs then they would be able to reverse the procedure.

Adults don't give a shit if you're disfigured?!
What world do you live in..
And what do you mean by "care"?
Because most people don't care or linger on things that they themselves do not have to endure.
It doesn't mean they won't think of or treat someone vastly differently.
It's the distance from the problem that allows them to so easily dismiss and trivialize it.

People do notice even when things go slightly wonky..they may not be able to put it into words but their brain is taking it into consideration when they assess and judge the person before their eyes.
Until it happens to you, you won't even begin to fathom what it is like.

It's bad enough that people with unattractive natural appearances can't speak on the 24/7 turmoil without having it thrown back in their face..then there are those who try to do something physically about it to help themselves (because unfortunately the minds of human beings, their shallowness and all the social constructs built off of them are not going to die out any time soon)- whether they were someone who was unattractive and had a good reason or someone who was attractive and out of sorts while making the decision- and if it goes any degree of wrong, then the poor person is blamed and ostracized for that too.
I think this is one of the most isolating and distressing things that could ever happen to a person.
They are demonized and "other-ed" in a way that seems to be unreachable and alien even to those who have been shrugged off or thought less of for other reasons.
This is an extremely damaging event, and it usually only gets worse with time and age.

It doesn't help that patients have almost no rights when it comes to cosmetic surgery, and no support system.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to alter your looks..it's completely understandable.
The problem is that not only is it easy to misunderstand/be without informed consent when opting to have a procedure done-and just as easy to make a mistake in choosing something unnecessary-it's also the fact that most of the current avenues are no where near as good as some people purport them to be, and this leads every day people down a "bad choice road" (BCS..I know).
Cosmetic surgery has a LONG way to go.
I'd be willing to bet that gene editing is going to someday surpass it in effectiveness and in 'patient' satisfaction rates.
Society ironically applauds those who keep the features they are "born with" after all, while simultaneously bullying others over the same.

The standards for cosmetic surgeons and how they go about their practice are laughable and their way of handling patients during the aftermath is atrocious.
Nobody is there to look out for the patient's best interest in these cases.
The unwillingness to address or acknowledge the issues and their consequences when things go amiss by the general public, the surgeon, the patient's circle..it is soul destroying for the victim.

Cosmetic surgery doesn't lead to suicide because the person receiving it overreacts or is delusional, it leads to suicide because almost no one cares about cosmetic surgery victims..and that can mean no solutions, no empathy, no attempt at trying to understand..just writing the person off as "one of those people".
Anyone contemplating suicide who wishes to speak about it freely should be able to comprehend what a "taboo" is to some degree and how it feels to be suffocated beneath it, along with the reasons why you ended up there.
Despite the current prevalence, cosmetic surgery has retained its taboo..and criticisms of the industry are rarely placed where they should be.
Is suing the surgeon an option?
Very very rarely can you successfully sue a surgeon for an "elective" procedure.
Unless you suffer necrosis or you die on the table, in all likelihood nobody (yourself included) is getting any settlement out of your trauma, nor will they even so much as apologize or take responsibility.
Lawyers won't take the case.
It's incredibly sad but true.
Even surgeons who have had lawsuits against them..hide them.
Their new patients are none the wiser.
The whole industry, even many of the "good" surgeons lack transparency and honesty on a level that would be unheard of in any other medical profession (psych professionals might come second..).
This is not just for your news worthy basement-dentist performing cosmetic surgery, it applies even to those surgeons who tout "board certifications".
Nothing is as it seems. Not even before and after photos.
Once in awhile you might get lucky, and some procedures are far more risky and less likely to be worth it than others..but that's more by design, not necessarily because a surgeon does or does not possess the hands of God.

It doesn't help that now mental health labels can be tacked onto patients with unsatisfactory, unacceptable or entirely botched results..in order to make them go away and blame the issue on the patient.

Most people don't look deep into this stuff unless they have to, and by then it is too late and they no longer have the energy to do something about it..besides realizing their horrible and uninformed mistake which they cannot take back.
It's a pretty deadly sense of regret.
And not one you can look away from.

I sincerely wish we had better options for people looking to make a change, whether it be for general aesthetics reasons, fixing something after an injury, gender reassignment, etc.
All of these people deserve the best standard of care, and at the very least they should not be treated like the problem when things don't go well or fail to accomplish mimicking nature.
 
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I don't know if this helps or not, but maybe in America it is different than in Asia, where plastic surgery is more common. For example, in places like korea and China, it is so common, that no one would probably even take a double take. And just saying, I've seen some Chinese people that have gotten, eyes, nose, chin, jaw, AND forehead done (and you can tell), and they are literally praised as the standard for beauty. It tool me a bit to understand and get used to, but it's so commom to even me now, that I don't even consider it anymore. I don't know if I can use acne as an example, but i had bad acne for a long time until i finally broke and slapped some prescribed chemicals on my face. I always felt ugly and would hide my face. But, I mean, now my skin is clearer, but i realized the acne isn't what made me hide, but the self hate was. The self hate never went away and I still feel like trash on the daily. sigh...
I've seen many people with your similar predicament in Asia, but like i said, it's the complete opposite there. Almost strange if you *don't* have surgery atleast once.
i would sue that surgeon, and if you're up for it, go to a better surgeon and see if they might be able to correct it.

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And I want to add something someone told me. They said, there is no point in aligning or holding yourself to society's standards for looks, because it is always changing. At one point in the early 2000s, being super skinny was the trend. Now, being thick and full figured is the trend. When you think about it, it's all pretty stupid. Like how dare society tell me I'm not good enough, it's NEVER their right to tell you how to look. At this point, in my 20s, I don't follow trends anymore. I do my hair the way I like, dress the way I like too. And guess what? People wouldn't dare say anything to me, or you.
There is a very well documented and clear objective standard to beauty which stands the test of time, is largely universal (across races and sex-although both sexes also have unique offshoots of the standard, etc) and goes beyond any temporary or locale-based preference.
It's not a cookie cutter image but it has to do with proportions, harmony, bone structure, symmetry, youthfulness, etc.
Classic attractiveness does not change with the times. It may be relative to the current state of human evolution, but it does not change.
And it's not even the same thing as "conventional", as there are plenty of unconventional looking people who are also objectively attractive.
(As long as you're not using "unconventional" as a euphemism for 'ugly')
The room for subjectivity is small and uninviting.
You might even think many models and/or actors or actresses known for being good looking seem nothing alike..but anyone who has a firm grasp on aesthetics (outside the natural and instantaneous judging ability we all possess) will be able to tell you, within reason, just how similar these people are in their attributes that contribute to being easy on the eyes and/or alluring.

Yea there are also trends and fads, and those are dangerous to get involved with.
But that information is not going to help OP, nor anyone who doesn't want to be hacked with surgery or physically unattractive/uncanny.
Messing with the face can offset the harmony and balance so easily, it's not even funny.
It can also present a "strangeness" to the affected feature and the surrounding area, something that even many untouched unattractive people don't have to deal with..and surely would not want to.
Not to diminish the seriousness of your disfigurement on your arm. Please be mindful that the OP has a disfigured nose which is difficult if not impossible to conceal during face-to-face encounters (post-pandemic). Whereas with your upper arm, you can always wear long or longer sleeve shirts.
Yes and a surgery on the nose is also far more complicated and prone to mishaps or aggressive techniques..revisions are even more complex and less successful.
It's so hopeless for many.

I have plenty of scars on my arms, and other areas. Pretty bad ones from shards of glass.
Some are smooth and others are wrinkly and discolored.
I can't even begin to focus on them because there are so many more significant and far worse things appearance wise to have to contend with.
Nobody is going to think of our arm when they picture us, they are going to see the face first and foremost.
Trust me, if I could have a photo ID that was just my arm, I would.
Doesn't mean it can't be a problem..but everybody ought to know their audience and the vast and incredible difference in issues here.
I know plenty of people who had their faces ruined who have even done mental exercises of bargaining and wishing they could trade entire limbs (or all of them) just to reverse what happened to their FACE.
(Although poor cosmetic work on the body is also a thing, and is also quite distressing and restrictive.)
You're right. I didn't meant to compare the scar on my arm to OP's nose. It was more about the experience that I relate to.

I'm glad you shared your story with us OP! Even though it's an f'd up situation, i feel more validated hearing from someone going through a similar experience. As a woman, physical appearances are extremely important. People constantly ask about my scar and what happened and it makes me feel like a disgusting freak. Sometimes they make jokes too which makes me feel worse. I know the scar on my arm can't compare to the one of your face, but just thought I'd share my story if it helps any or someone else that comes across this post. People are cruel and I wish they could just recognize that it's even more difficult for me to accept my scar when they keep looking at it and not at me. It's also hard for me to trust a new plastic surgeon to correct my scar because of how horrible the first one went.

I suggest leaving a negative review of the surgeon on Google and other review sites. With details and photos and all to help prevent it from happening to someone else!
I agree about leaving a review.
Sometimes it's the only thing left that a victim can do..warn others and maybe get some sort of catharsis in stating their grievances and how they were affected.
Although many would find it extremely difficult, scary and may not want to risk opening themselves up to more pain.
You can crop things (if pictures can be added) and remain anonymous but not all review avenues treat the reviewers equally or above who they are reviewing.
Some surgeons pay to have their negative reviews removed or find other ways to report them while keeping their positive or fake reviews at the top.
They also have others who work under them or sometimes even staff who will work in nefarious ways to get the person to take their review down.
Sometime posing as other patients (works with getting prospective patients to go to them too).
People underestimate just how dark and deplorable the underworld of cosmetic surgery is.
If you're not one of the lucky ones, you can can sucked in forever and never know who to trust because you can't take anything or anyone at face value.
 
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Same shit here sadly. Never could imagine my life would turn out like this. One insecurity leading to an impulsive decision, a lying sack of shit surgeon, and I'm here. And I had a great life before. I really wanna kill that son of a bitch. The cosmetic surgery industry is incredibly evil and predatory. Surgeons will do everything to convince you to have the surgery, will not tell you risks, and just straight-up lie about what is realistic. There is absolutely no regulation or oversight. And then when you tell people they just don't believe you. Another insult to injury. And you can't do anything about it.

I was naive sadly. I was lied about everything. Agreed to one thing, while the surgeon did something entirely else. And he didn't show me the surgery plan because he couldn't do what I wanted so he hid it. Afterward, he treated me like shit, like absolute garbage. I really wanna kill him, like for real. I wanna torture that human garbage. Anger, shame, and regret I have are impossible to cope with. I basically lost all ability to function and now just eat, sleep, and browse the net. Don't go out anymore. I've spoken to a lot of people online that are in my situation and everybody is suicidal. Nose surgery is such a delicate procedure on such a complex structure that the outcome is a huge gamble both aesthetically and functionally. Something about 40% of people are not satisfied with it or have functional issues. And they won't tell you that. It's a huge shame regulatory institutions let that happen. Just a sign of society that doesn't care. Cosmetic surgery should be outlawed, at least on the face.
 
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Same shit here sadly. Never could imagine my life would turn out like this. One insecurity leading to an impulsive decision, a lying sack of shit surgeon, and I'm here. And I had a great life before. I really wanna kill that son of a bitch. The cosmetic surgery industry is incredibly evil and predatory. Surgeons will do everything to convince you to have the surgery, will not tell you risks, and just straight-up lie about what is realistic. There is absolutely no regulation or oversight. And then when you tell people they just don't believe you. Another insult to injury. And you can't do anything about it.

I was naive sadly. I was lied about everything. Agreed to one thing, while the surgeon did something entirely else. And he didn't show me the surgery plan because he couldn't do what I wanted so he hid it. Afterward, he treated me like shit, like absolute garbage. I really wanna kill him, like for real. I wanna torture that human garbage. Anger, shame, and regret I have are impossible to cope with. I basically lost all ability to function and now just eat, sleep, and browse the net. Don't go out anymore. I've spoken to a lot of people online that are in my situation and everybody is suicidal. Nose surgery is such a delicate procedure on such a complex structure that the outcome is a huge gamble both aesthetically and functionally. Something about 40% of people are not satisfied with it or have functional issues. And they won't tell you that. It's a huge shame regulatory institutions let that happen. Just a sign of society that doesn't care. Cosmetic surgery should be outlawed, at least on the face.
Very sorry you have had to go through this.
(I have never had a great life and was in a rather shit position appearance-wise to begin with, bullied severely, before I had additional hells that compounded my own predicament to the point of no return, "regret and suffer" are words I use but will never suffice..however your own words still resonate.)

It is reasonable to feel such anger.
They really don't tell people the risks (of which there is a laundry list), they just make sure their patients sign the papers so that they're not liable.
Even the consultations (usually not free..) aren't patient-friendly, too short (should have numerous ones), not open to many questions or to offering much unsolicited risk assessment or explanation of the exact procedure, make the patient feel indebted to their service before they even get them on the table..so the patient gets scared to even verbalize their fears or when they got cold feet.
They tell people they need to be "realistic" all the time but will never say exactly what that actually means.
(Realistic about trading one situation for a far worse one..)
They don't take into account that the patient may be making the wrong decision, while still having had valid experiences that led them there..it's very mentally and emotionally messy from the beggining and surgeons just want to get their paycheck and get out.

Most of them don't even understand how to make a nose/feature fit a person's face, they will rarely deny a patient or tell them that the feature should not be touched and why (unless it's already botched, ironically).
They will just accept them and sometimes do things "just to do them", whether the person would theoretically actually benefit from the procedure or not.
(Even if yes in theory, does not mean it would equate to yes in actuality.)
And I find that most do not benefit, even some people who claim to be alright with their result..their before just looks better.
Like you said, noses especially are an incredibly complex structure and right in the center of the face.
People don't realize how crazy the anatomy of the nose is.
They may think it's just about fixing a bump or flattening a "hook" nose but even a "hook" nose can look elegant and refined, balanced with the face, more so than any attempt to alter it.
Rhino surgeries in particular are one of the most difficult (yet so common!), so many components, mere mms could change everything..as well as which techniques they decide to use, where and how much they decide to break or cut out or suture together, etc.
It can even negatively affect the eyes, the philtrum, the mouth, the inner cheeks, just the general look of the surrounding area and how the face is seen thereafter. And most probably not in a good way.
Instead of highlighting other good features, it could ruin them or make unattractive ones much more prominent and out of whack.

Most surgeons don't tell their patients any of this nor do they concern themselves with it.
Which they should, if the ultimate goal is to make the patient look better by an objective standard (otherwise what's the point) that suits their face and only ever makes it look more appealing, not less.
NOTHING should be compromised, otherwise the surgery plan is a failure and should not be performed.
But they LOVE "trade-offs"..this is why so many people end up with multiple surgeries once they get one done…one thing leads to the wreck of another..then they try to fix it all..then so on and so forth.
Most "plastic surgery addicts" aren't addicts.
They know they look bad, but they're not allowed to talk about it and they don't have anywhere to turn except straight back to the scalpel. Empty promises and desperation.

No regulation or oversight is correct..one of the only forms of "oversight" I ever saw was older surgeons basically using their patients as practice dummies while letting their "fellow" younger surgeons perform the actual surgery…while the senior surgeon "overlooked".
Much of this was done without consent or they worded things to the patient in a way that gave them a false impression of what was going to happen.

That's another thing they love to do..ask them a question and they will find a way to tell you "No" when the answer is actually "Yes" or vice versa.
They play with their words and use certain terminology to talk around you, and they definitely don't ever try to let you in on what they're actually saying.
There was one surgeon I encountered who seemed to appreciate the education of his patients (on the procedure) but his work wasn't all that great, so his bedside manner and attempt to be kinder and more open than the surgeons that came before him didn't mean much in the end, for a lot of people.
Too bad.

Their lies and omissions are their dollar signs.
So is the taboo.
When nobody believes, cares about, or considers the patient's trauma in the aftermath of a poor, unnecessary or bad result..this is music to the surgeon's ears.
They practically bet on their patients killing themselves if something goes awry.
Because who is going to know about it?
Most don't want anyone to know, they're so ashamed and frightened and they've probably already been invalidated by those close who they may have turned to.
Maybe they didn't even tell anyone what happened and their death becomes a question mark.
It's a rare event when I see a friend or family member supportive of this type of thing, especially without platitudes or bullshit advice..or making the person feel even worse.
These surgeons know that as long as they don't directly kill someone or spark an infection, they're off the hook when it comes to a bereaved patient (who are grieving themselves and who they were or could have been).

"Anger, shame, and regret I have are impossible to cope with. I basically lost all ability to function and now just eat, sleep, and browse the net. Don't go out anymore. I've spoken to a lot of people online that are in my situation and everybody is suicidal."

I understand completely, and this is the reality for those who have gone through this.
Even the ones who try to "move on", usually don't last long.
It's very hard to find other people who have been through this..or similar, but once you do you realize how commonly bleak the future has become for so many.
People are fragile and destroyed and without hope or understanding..the perpetrator only propagates that isolation and shame.
Your surgeon sounds like so many others who treat their patients terribly once what's done is done. There is no remorse.
And usually just more lies.
Operation reports won't even tell the whole truth the majority of the time.
So even if people just want all the answers about what happened to them before they die, they can't get them. They're stuck wondering, haunted, alone..

I wonder too if cosmetic surgery should fall to the wayside sometimes, but I suppose some are happier after. And there's not another option for those who suffer unrelenting prejudice for their appearance, those who are endlessly uncomfortable in their skin or with dysphoria of any kind (doesn't have to be exclusive to gender desires).
At the same time..it's just not good enough, it goes bad so often, it doesn't age well, some people lose their minds even from what might be considered minimal changes for the worse.
Some people can't even handle the change itself at all, because the brain just can't take it, it can't identify with it or ever get used to it.
I've seen certain types of surgeries with aesthetic components go very well, like double jaw surgery..which also tends to address function (same as some nose surgeries claim), but even that's a risk..and I've seen that go wrong as well..with just as much gaslighting or lack of compassion afterward.
Strange world we live in.
I wouldn't want to deny someone the opportunity..it's just so hard to realize how shitty someone's only options are.
(Including my own.)
Even those who were miserable beforehand can find themselves with another layer of misery and despair that they did not even think was possible.
 
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