Discussion Being told that suicide is selfish is cementing my decision to commit it.

[inactive]

If I am constantly and genuinely aching to carry out an action that will hurt other people, doesn't that make me a bad person? And couldn't the world do with less bad people in it? What I gather is that I should kill myself ASAP.

 

[Lone_Gray_Wolf]

I don't think that makes u a bad person. The ones telling u all those kind of things aren't saints either. Just trying to put pressure on u to "make u think twice" but in reality just makes u want to die even more; to kinda prove then: "U didn't wanted me to do it? Well how about now!." One little last movement to cause pain to those who don't seem to know what one is going through.

 

[Worndown]

If I am constantly and genuinely aching to carry out an action that will hurt other people, doesn't that make me a bad person? And couldn't the world do with less bad people in it? What I gather is that I should kill myself ASAP.

Only you know the problems you face and the toll it takes on you. You carry this burden alone.
Trying to make someone live longer solely for your own convenience is a selfish act.

 

[SoIntoYou]

If I am constantly and genuinely aching to carry out an action that will hurt other people, doesn't that make me a bad person?

Aren't you feeling this way because others are carrying out actions that have hurt you in the first place? The blame should not be with you. It only seems that way because those who primarily hurt you do so far in advance and are obfuscated well. So no, it doesn't make you a bad person. It makes you a strong person.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Your intention for doing it is not to hurt, their being hurt would be an unfortunate unavoidable outcome. If you were doing it with the intention to hurt others, then we could entertain the idea of whether or not it's the act of a bad person.

Is it possible that you're doing mental gymnastics to validate to yourself your potential suicide and make it easier?

 

[zeroshark]

i feel this as well. i see how terribly it hurts my partner to deal with my constant suicidality and not knowing if ill be there to answer him when he wakes up in the morning; he tells me how horrible it would be for him if i killed myself. but given that ive always been this way and dont foresee it getting better (and neither of us will leave each other), surely it would be better in some way to end my life now rather than subject him to 10, 20, 60 more years of this bullshit. i cant undo the damage ive already done by becoming a part of his life to begin with, but i can mitigate future harm by allowing him to begin healing and moving on.

 

[RedDEE]

I, for one, don't believe my suicide would hurt anyone. You see, I have realized that everyone exists inside my mind - they're all just part of my imagination. You can't hurt an illusion.

 

[DyingAlf]

Those people who tell you/us that suicide is selfish conveniently forget how selfish it is for them (or anyone) to expect a suicidal person to remain living in constant pain & torment.

 

[TAW122]

That is one such catalyst for my decision too. I hate it when people ignore their own selfishness by projecting it onto others who wish to go. If anything, they are equally selfish (if not even more so) for insisting that one stays and suffers for them, just so they don't have to deal with sadness or uncomfortablility.

 

[almost_dead]

If I am constantly and genuinely aching to carry out an action that will hurt other people, doesn't that make me a bad person? And couldn't the world do with less bad people in it? What I gather is that I should kill myself ASAP.

bruh first of all watch you life very very carefully , isnt everything you do ultimately selfish ? (We even help others so that it will inflate our ego so its selfish again ). Humans are selfish and being selfish isn't good or bad it's our nature , it's just how we are...Our very living is selfish bcz somewhere a kid in africa is dying of starvation and we are eating food.....

 

[inactive]

Thank you, everyone. I know all of this deep down but these unsympathetic pro-lifer sentiments have been spiking my depression and affecting my self-worth :(

 

[TheSoulless]

"My body, my choice".

 

[Meliæ]

Sometimes it's needed to be selfish

 

[FuneralCry]

The way I see it, the right to die is important, we did not ask to exist so it isn't like we have any obligation to stay alive. To me what is selfish is the people that expect us to suffer for decades against our wishes.

 

[doesntevenmatter]

I hate when people say that just as much as I hate when people say you're a coward for it. I don't believe either of those to be true, quite the opposite. In fact I think most of us who are suicidal got there because we care TOO much. Some people might disagree with that, but from my perspective that's how I see it. I'm sure there are outliers. It's also a very brave thing to do in my opinion.. It's not easy, that's for sure, otherwise why would we be on this forum lol.

 

[Dear Agony]

No, suicide isn't selfish. What's selfish is to force someone to live in constant agony and pain, a life you NEVER consented to live. I have empathy enough to recognize life can be horribly painful to some people, no matter my own beliefs, and so should everyone. It's horribly selfish to say suicide if selfish in the first place.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

Suicide isn't selfish. Others are selfish for expecting someone to continue in physical pain or Emotional pain because they cannot DIGEST you leaving. Know one asked to come here. Know one should be GUILTED into continuing an intolerable miserable life for 80+ years because those around cannot digest you taking yourself out. It scares people because it shatters the world being beautiful and pleasant. Good I hope more people CTB so society can change and set it up so ALL humans can have a fulfilling QUALITY life.

 

[ITSCHRISHERE123]

If I am constantly and genuinely aching to carry out an action that will hurt other people, doesn't that make me a bad person? And couldn't the world do with less bad people in it? What I gather is that I should kill myself ASAP.

It's your life. You didn't choose to be here. Who gives a crap what others think

 

[toforigivelife]

After a certain point of spending years propping yourself up in order to avoid "hurting others" you do come to this conclusion.

Anti Suicide is Pro Suffering

 

[PeaceDeathLove]

At some point I, too, harboured feelings of angst and resentment towards those who contributed to my pain. I have since come to the conclusion that it is far better for my mental well-being to completely cut said individuals instead. They can't affect if you don't acknowledge their existence, right?