C

Criticalgeese

Member
May 21, 2024
10
Hello, new here.

I already have 2 suicide attempts on myself. When I was 7 years old, I threw myself out of the 3-story balcony and broke my legs. Then I tried again at 12 years old by burning myself alive chest first. All I got out of all that is a limp, a massive burn scar on my chest, and a permanent heart condition. Any amount of moderate to severe physical or mental stress will cause me to physical and mentally breakdown. I don't handle any pressure well at all no matter how hard I try. Considering the world we live in, avoiding any kind of stress is impossible. I have no interest in living or existing out of spite.

I've basically been like this for 32 years. An agoraphobic for 14 years. Social anxiety since I was born. I have no friends, I'm a dropout with no degrees or certificates. I have no skills, I have no talents, never worked or had a job without melting down. No interest in any career. Everything is too stressful and too much effort for me.

Therapists and doctors are basically just throwing everything and the kitchen sink at me to see what sticks and with it all the side effects. I feel like a guinea pig. The only thing they haven't tried is prescribing money. Without the support of my parents and doctors I would be dead a long time ago.

All I wanted was to be born into a loving rich family so I don't have to work. Barring that winning the lottery, marrying into money, or having a rich friend. It would solve all my issues. All my problems stem from money. I wouldn't have to work. Won't have to put any effort in life. Won't have to wonder where to get Water and food. Won't have to worry about where to live. Won't have to worry about paying the bills. Don't have to worry about taxes. I could just delegate everything. I wouldn't have bothered trying to kill myself twice.

The very concept of work makes me suicidal. The chances of what I want in life happening being mathematically zero makes me suicidal. Knowing 0.01% of humanity is living the life I wanted makes me suicidal. I don't need or want a purpose in my life. What I want in this life is nigh impossible short of a miracle happening. I wanted a life of comfort and luxury inside an ivory tower. My only options are death by exposure when my parents pass or taking my own life when the time comes and what little support system I have goes away.

If your rich you can just lock yourself in an ivory tower and mind your own business. No one can hurt you me inside. The only times I've felt safe and content is alone with my parents isolated from the world. My ideal life is being born into a gilded cage were nobody can hurt me. Where I will never have to interact or engage with a single human being ever again. The world is scary place. It's a dog-eat-dog world where competition, ruthlessness, and survival of the strongest is encouraged and those who can't or won't help themselves deserve to suffer and die. All I see is ruthless people crushing everyone underfoot to secure themselves and their families.

What little hobbies I'm interested in requires me to be a multimillionaire in the 10s to 100s million range just to personally indulge in them. If someone or something just gave me 10s of 100s of millions I'd pay all my parents debt and put most of it in a boring Index Fund and let compound interest do its magic. Then after all the expenses, bills, and taxes and reinvestment's I'd donate the excess to local charities.

Whenever I share my life or opinions to strangers in real life or online all I get is invalidating comments that my feelings aren't real. That other people have it worse. That I should volunteer (why would I even do that to a society that indirectly or directly want's me to die). That my whining and self-pitting won't solve anything. That my life experiences aren't real. That wealthy people off themselves all the time. They're not living my life. I Haven't found any one willing to just give me money so I can prove everyone wrong that it will buy me contentment and happiness. They just tell me to go die already.

When the "advises", "tough love", and whatever platitudes fail. Almost everyone gets defensive and the insults and the judgments starts coming out; that I'm lazy, a parasite, a waste of life, that I should have been aborted, should have been euthanized, that it would be great for tax payers if I just killed myself already. Bluntly stating directly or indirectly encouraging me to off myself already and stop wasting everyone's time. Well, they'll get their wishes in a decade or 3. Better off for everyone on the planet if I never existed.

I'm just living to keep my promise to my parents until they pass. I'm there only child and last in the family line. My death would break them utterly. I don't deserve them in this life. I don't deserve to be mourned or remembered by anyone. No one would care anyway and neither would I at this point.

I'm already a lost cause by societies standards. Validating that I deserve all the suffering I'm going through since I have zero desire to fix my life. I wanted a golden ticket to life. I wanted a life without effort. Hearing nobody can save you except yourself doesn't motivate me to get better. It does the complete opposite and makes me want to kill myself already and get it over with. I'm sure the majority of people in society would love to save a few dollars on their taxes over my passing. Another burden to society gone and good riddance.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: Metal n Vidya, SomeBody123, ViniTerrible and 20 others
Vicolo cieco

Vicolo cieco

Student
May 14, 2024
109
I've basically been like this for 32 years. An agoraphobic for 14 years. Social anxiety since I was born. I have no friends, I'm a dropout with no degrees or certificates. I have no skills, I have no talents, never worked or had a job without melting down. No interest in any career. Everything is too stressful and too much effort for me.
Same.

Money is the true god of this world. Even if it doesn't make you happy, at least it relieves suffering.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: Temporal_Anchorite, SomeBody123, doggiesarecute and 15 others
S

silence ends

Student
Jan 10, 2023
121
Money is the true god of this world. Even if it doesn't make you happy, at least it relieves suffering.
Well said. Money is the "God" in current civilization.

Wish i was born into money. Or learned skills to aquire it. Or won lottery.
But no, no god for me and i will die poor, soon. Towards the end of my life i took poverty even further than before; i will be homeless in a month but hopefully i manage to ctb before that.

With tiny amount of money i would go on this struggle for months, even years longer. By tiny i mean tiny for those who has alot of it, xxxxx amount.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: doggiesarecute, Infinite Solipsist, not-2-b-the-answer and 3 others
U

UKscotty

Doesn't read PMs
May 20, 2021
2,450
I'm not so sure. There are many many rich people who hang themselves.

Depression is an equal opportunities destroyer as we say. It doesn't care how rich you are.

Money can make life easier, but it doesn't guarantee happiness.

Plenty of objectively poor people are very happy, they make what they can of life and are resilient mentally. I have had lots of money, but it didn't help my depression.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: SomeBody123, ms_beaverhousen, TapeMachine and 9 others
E

Ernest1964

Specialist
Jan 6, 2023
363
I agree. If I had money, life would be A LOT easier. I worked at a private high school where one of the boys comes from a filthy rich family, he is tall, devastatingly good looking (he would walk down the hallway and most of the girls and many of the boys would turn just to check him out), He was smart, athletic (he played on the soccer team) he had everything going for him and I used to think, "why couldn't that have been me?" and he's only 17 years old! Money may be the root of all evil, as they say, but I'd like to get me some of THAT... The Money, not the boy. Nice kid too, polite, respectful and well liked by his peers. If reincarnation is real, I want to come back as him.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: doggiesarecute, Shunya, SMmetalhead36 and 4 others
C

Criticalgeese

Member
May 21, 2024
10
I'm surprised anyone even responded. Whenever I say how I feel to anyone other that my family or some therapists or doctors I get insulted and told to go die or just straight up ignored.

Same.

Money is the true god of this world. Even if it doesn't make you happy, at least it relieves suffering.
Yup, better to cry in bespoke one-off Bugatti La Voiture Noire than a rusted Toyota Corolla.

Well said. Money is the "God" in current civilization.

Wish i was born into money. Or learned skills to aquire it. Or won lottery.
But no, no god for me and i will die poor, soon. Towards the end of my life i took poverty even further than before; i will be homeless in a month but hopefully i manage to ctb before that.

With tiny amount of money i would go on this struggle for months, even years longer. By tiny i mean tiny for those who has alot of it, xxxxx amount.
Same, most likely going to be the same for me when my parents are gone unless some miracle happens. Already have my chosen method planned out.

I'm not so sure. There are many many rich people who hang themselves.

Depression is an equal opportunities destroyer as we say. It doesn't care how rich you are.

Money can make life easier, but it doesn't guarantee happiness.

Plenty of objectively poor people are very happy, they make what they can of life and are resilient mentally. I have had lots of money, but it didn't help my depression.
Personally, I'm just speaking for myself. All I wanted was an easy life free from hard work, effort, and challenges. I just cannot comprehend how people want a challenging life. The need to have some grand purpose. The need to keep busy. It makes me feel like an alien outcast in this world. That I'm the only one that thinks like this and I have to keep my thoughts to myself or else.

I've read through a lot of stories of rich people who are depressed and eventually committed suicide even when they have everything and poor people who are content with their lives and I just can't understand it. I try to empathize and understand their mentality and I just can't. Just trying makes me stressed and suicidal. I just don't get it. All it does is fill me with rage, resentment, and apathy in that order when I try. Does that make a monster, a psychopath, a sociopath? That I can't empathize with them? Some people already say that I'm a monster for not caring. Maybe their right.

I agree. If I had money, life would be A LOT easier. I worked at a private high school where one of the boys comes from a filthy rich family, he is tall, devastatingly good looking (he would walk down the hallway and most of the girls and many of the boys would turn just to check him out), He was smart, athletic (he played on the soccer team) he had everything going for him and I used to think, "why couldn't that have been me?" and he's only 17 years old! Money may be the root of all evil, as they say, but I'd like to get me some of THAT... The Money, not the boy. Nice kid too, polite, respectful and well liked by his peers. If reincarnation is real, I want to come back as him.
Yeah, sounds like a nice kid. Hopefully, we both get what we want in the next life if reincarnation is real.

They also say that money just amplifies what you already are.
 
  • Like
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer and Vicolo cieco
M

martinso67

All human rights are important
Feb 5, 2021
232
For me as well. I would have money to travel to South America. And say finally good bye. I also would donate 90% of my wealth to children and young people in need. The rest goes to my parents and funeral cost.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Criticalgeese, tpboy and davidtorez
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that’s just me
Sep 13, 2023
9,013
Personally, I'm just speaking for myself. All I wanted was an easy life free from hard work, effort, and challenges. I just cannot comprehend how people want a challenging life. The need to have some grand purpose. The need to keep busy. It makes me feel like an alien outcast in this world. That I'm the only one that thinks like this and I have to keep my thoughts to myself or else.
Same. I never understood why people *want* responsibilities or challenges. I don't want to have to put in any work or effort at all. I want my life to be as easy as possible. I'm a NEET right now and I love it. I basically do nothing but my hobbies all day. It's a very chill existence. My parents are pressuring me to get a job though
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: Temporal_Anchorite, doggiesarecute, Criticalgeese and 4 others
divinemistress36

divinemistress36

Illuminated
Jan 1, 2024
3,270
A lot of rich people are just constantly working and never get to spend it much look at Elon Musk he is filthy rich yet all he does is work. Id settle for upper middle class
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
  • Like
Reactions: Criticalgeese, not-2-b-the-answer, davidtorez and 1 other person
I

idk3

Student
Sep 10, 2023
135
I inherited a lot when I was 18 after my Grandparents passed away in an accident when I was in high school. Thanks to my minimalist lifestyle and getting lucky with some investments, I'm pretty much set for life and don't have to work.

I'm still here suffering daily and will hopefully be gone soon. I've already failed a couple of attempts, but hopefully third times a charm.
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: doggiesarecute, Criticalgeese, SMmetalhead36 and 3 others
Lady Laudanum

Lady Laudanum

Here for a bad time, not a long time
May 9, 2024
807
My parents are well off. We weren't filthy rich but I still consider myself very financially privileged. My childhood was still really shitty, but I'm still grateful that I've never struggled financially.

I've been financially stable on my own for a few years now. I'm not rich but I'm living comfortably in a high cost of living area. My mental health is still completely fucked, but I know that I would have CTB years ago if I never found a way to become financially independent.
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: doggiesarecute, Criticalgeese, not-2-b-the-answer and 2 others
I

IanMichaelPeda

New Member
Feb 2, 2024
4
Hello, new here.

I already have 2 suicide attempts on myself. When I was 7 years old, I threw myself out of the 3-story balcony and broke my legs. Then I tried again at 12 years old by burning myself alive chest first. All I got out of all that is a limp, a massive burn scar on my chest, and a permanent heart condition. Any amount of moderate to severe physical or mental stress will cause me to physical and mentally breakdown. I don't handle any pressure well at all no matter how hard I try. Considering the world we live in, avoiding any kind of stress is impossible. I have no interest in living or existing out of spite.

I've basically been like this for 32 years. An agoraphobic for 14 years. Social anxiety since I was born. I have no friends, I'm a dropout with no degrees or certificates. I have no skills, I have no talents, never worked or had a job without melting down. No interest in any career. Everything is too stressful and too much effort for me.

Therapists and doctors are basically just throwing everything and the kitchen sink at me to see what sticks and with it all the side effects. I feel like a guinea pig. The only thing they haven't tried is prescribing money. Without the support of my parents and doctors I would be dead a long time ago.

All I wanted was to be born into a loving rich family so I don't have to work. Barring that winning the lottery, marrying into money, or having a rich friend. It would solve all my issues. All my problems stem from money. I wouldn't have to work. Won't have to put any effort in life. Won't have to wonder where to get Water and food. Won't have to worry about where to live. Won't have to worry about paying the bills. Don't have to worry about taxes. I could just delegate everything. I wouldn't have bothered trying to kill myself twice.

The very concept of work makes me suicidal. The chances of what I want in life happening being mathematically zero makes me suicidal. Knowing 0.01% of humanity is living the life I wanted makes me suicidal. I don't need or want a purpose in my life. What I want in this life is nigh impossible short of a miracle happening. I wanted a life of comfort and luxury inside an ivory tower. My only options are death by exposure when my parents pass or taking my own life when the time comes and what little support system I have goes away.

If your rich you can just lock yourself in an ivory tower and mind your own business. No one can hurt you me inside. The only times I've felt safe and content is alone with my parents isolated from the world. My ideal life is being born into a gilded cage were nobody can hurt me. Where I will never have to interact or engage with a single human being ever again. The world is scary place. It's a dog-eat-dog world where competition, ruthlessness, and survival of the strongest is encouraged and those who can't or won't help themselves deserve to suffer and die. All I see is ruthless people crushing everyone underfoot to secure themselves and their families.

What little hobbies I'm interested in requires me to be a multimillionaire in the 10s to 100s million range just to personally indulge in them. If someone or something just gave me 10s of 100s of millions I'd pay all my parents debt and put most of it in a boring Index Fund and let compound interest do its magic. Then after all the expenses, bills, and taxes and reinvestment's I'd donate the excess to local charities.

Whenever I share my life or opinions to strangers in real life or online all I get is invalidating comments that my feelings aren't real. That other people have it worse. That I should volunteer (why would I even do that to a society that indirectly or directly want's me to die). That my whining and self-pitting won't solve anything. That my life experiences aren't real. That wealthy people off themselves all the time. They're not living my life. I Haven't found any one willing to just give me money so I can prove everyone wrong that it will buy me contentment and happiness. They just tell me to go die already.

When the "advises", "tough love", and whatever platitudes fail. Almost everyone gets defensive and the insults and the judgments starts coming out; that I'm lazy, a parasite, a waste of life, that I should have been aborted, should have been euthanized, that it would be great for tax payers if I just killed myself already. Bluntly stating directly or indirectly encouraging me to off myself already and stop wasting everyone's time. Well, they'll get their wishes in a decade or 3. Better off for everyone on the planet if I never existed.

I'm just living to keep my promise to my parents until they pass. I'm there only child and last in the family line. My death would break them utterly. I don't deserve them in this life. I don't deserve to be mourned or remembered by anyone. No one would care anyway and neither would I at this point.

I'm already a lost cause by societies standards. Validating that I deserve all the suffering I'm going through since I have zero desire to fix my life. I wanted a golden ticket to life. I wanted a life without effort. Hearing nobody can save you except yourself doesn't motivate me to get better. It does the complete opposite and makes me want to kill myself already and get it over with. I'm sure the majority of people in society would love to save a few dollars on their taxes over my passing. Another burden to society gone and good riddance.
I agree to an extent. Having a lot of money is great. In fact, that is the only reason I haven't checked the bus already. I moved to China where I am close to being in the top 1% by local standards; the ease of my life is the reason I continue living.

However, being born into money is not what it's cracked up to be. The reason is that your family, not you, are the ones controlling the money, and they can use that money to keep you under their thumb.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: Criticalgeese, not-2-b-the-answer, divinemistress36 and 1 other person
davidtorez

davidtorez

Mage
Mar 8, 2024
545
It all depends if it is money (or lack thereof) that's causing your depressive thoughts. If theres no other underlying causes like clinical problems then money would help you. For me personally money would solve 50% of my problems but life would still suck because no amount of money will cure the aging process
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
  • Informative
Reactions: doggiesarecute, Criticalgeese, not-2-b-the-answer and 1 other person
Linda

Linda

Member
Jul 30, 2020
1,685
Hello, new here.

I already have 2 suicide attempts on myself. When I was 7 years old, I threw myself out of the 3-story balcony and broke my legs. Then I tried again at 12 years old by burning myself alive chest first. All I got out of all that is a limp, a massive burn scar on my chest, and a permanent heart condition. Any amount of moderate to severe physical or mental stress will cause me to physical and mentally breakdown. I don't handle any pressure well at all no matter how hard I try. Considering the world we live in, avoiding any kind of stress is impossible. I have no interest in living or existing out of spite.

I've basically been like this for 32 years. An agoraphobic for 14 years. Social anxiety since I was born. I have no friends, I'm a dropout with no degrees or certificates. I have no skills, I have no talents, never worked or had a job without melting down. No interest in any career. Everything is too stressful and too much effort for me.

Therapists and doctors are basically just throwing everything and the kitchen sink at me to see what sticks and with it all the side effects. I feel like a guinea pig. The only thing they haven't tried is prescribing money. Without the support of my parents and doctors I would be dead a long time ago.

All I wanted was to be born into a loving rich family so I don't have to work. Barring that winning the lottery, marrying into money, or having a rich friend. It would solve all my issues. All my problems stem from money. I wouldn't have to work. Won't have to put any effort in life. Won't have to wonder where to get Water and food. Won't have to worry about where to live. Won't have to worry about paying the bills. Don't have to worry about taxes. I could just delegate everything. I wouldn't have bothered trying to kill myself twice.

The very concept of work makes me suicidal. The chances of what I want in life happening being mathematically zero makes me suicidal. Knowing 0.01% of humanity is living the life I wanted makes me suicidal. I don't need or want a purpose in my life. What I want in this life is nigh impossible short of a miracle happening. I wanted a life of comfort and luxury inside an ivory tower. My only options are death by exposure when my parents pass or taking my own life when the time comes and what little support system I have goes away.

If your rich you can just lock yourself in an ivory tower and mind your own business. No one can hurt you me inside. The only times I've felt safe and content is alone with my parents isolated from the world. My ideal life is being born into a gilded cage were nobody can hurt me. Where I will never have to interact or engage with a single human being ever again. The world is scary place. It's a dog-eat-dog world where competition, ruthlessness, and survival of the strongest is encouraged and those who can't or won't help themselves deserve to suffer and die. All I see is ruthless people crushing everyone underfoot to secure themselves and their families.

What little hobbies I'm interested in requires me to be a multimillionaire in the 10s to 100s million range just to personally indulge in them. If someone or something just gave me 10s of 100s of millions I'd pay all my parents debt and put most of it in a boring Index Fund and let compound interest do its magic. Then after all the expenses, bills, and taxes and reinvestment's I'd donate the excess to local charities.

Whenever I share my life or opinions to strangers in real life or online all I get is invalidating comments that my feelings aren't real. That other people have it worse. That I should volunteer (why would I even do that to a society that indirectly or directly want's me to die). That my whining and self-pitting won't solve anything. That my life experiences aren't real. That wealthy people off themselves all the time. They're not living my life. I Haven't found any one willing to just give me money so I can prove everyone wrong that it will buy me contentment and happiness. They just tell me to go die already.

When the "advises", "tough love", and whatever platitudes fail. Almost everyone gets defensive and the insults and the judgments starts coming out; that I'm lazy, a parasite, a waste of life, that I should have been aborted, should have been euthanized, that it would be great for tax payers if I just killed myself already. Bluntly stating directly or indirectly encouraging me to off myself already and stop wasting everyone's time. Well, they'll get their wishes in a decade or 3. Better off for everyone on the planet if I never existed.

I'm just living to keep my promise to my parents until they pass. I'm there only child and last in the family line. My death would break them utterly. I don't deserve them in this life. I don't deserve to be mourned or remembered by anyone. No one would care anyway and neither would I at this point.

I'm already a lost cause by societies standards. Validating that I deserve all the suffering I'm going through since I have zero desire to fix my life. I wanted a golden ticket to life. I wanted a life without effort. Hearing nobody can save you except yourself doesn't motivate me to get better. It does the complete opposite and makes me want to kill myself already and get it over with. I'm sure the majority of people in society would love to save a few dollars on their taxes over my passing. Another burden to society gone and good riddance.
You are being too simplistic. Having so little money that you can't meet basic needs is, indeed, a problem. But once you get well past that stage, more money doesn't bring more happiness. Today, I am very comfortably off. I am no happier than 50 years ago, when I was a student with very little money.
I have spoken to a number of distinctly wealthy businessmen who have said that they enjoyed the challenge of acquiring their money, but that when they eventually became rich they found that it didn't mean much. I had an uncle who started out poor and then became very rich through his business. When I last saw him, in 1987, at my brother's wedding, he looked miserable. His wife had died a couple of years before, he was lonely, and all his millions meant nothing to him.
If you were very rich, with the mental attitudes you have now, I think you would still be miserable.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: SomeBody123, Twistedliesinside, doggiesarecute and 5 others
derpyderpins

derpyderpins

In the Service of the Queen
Sep 19, 2023
1,859
You are being too simplistic. Having so little money that you can't meet basic needs is, indeed, a problem. But once you get well past that stage, more money doesn't bring more happiness. Today, I am very comfortably off. I am no happier than 50 years ago, when I was a student with very little money.
I have spoken to a number of distinctly wealthy businessmen who have said that they enjoyed the challenge of acquiring their money, but that when they eventually became rich they found that it didn't mean much. I had an uncle who started out poor and then became very rich through his business. When I last saw him, in 1987, at my brother's wedding, he looked miserable. His wife had died a couple of years before, he was lonely, and all his millions meant nothing to him.
If you were very rich, with the mental attitudes you have now, I think you would still be miserable.
I find that those very successful guys who make a lot of money tend to keep working. Do you know any who made their bag young and then stopped the grind to enjoy life? That's what I always pictured that I'd like to do. Get enough to live off investments so I can spend my days doing what I want.
 
  • Like
Reactions: doggiesarecute, davidtorez and not-2-b-the-answer
Linda

Linda

Member
Jul 30, 2020
1,685
I find that those very successful guys who make a lot of money tend to keep working. Do you know any who made their bag young and then stopped the grind to enjoy life? That's what I always pictured that I'd like to do. Get enough to live off investments so I can spend my days doing what I want.
Most people who have the drive to succeed in that kind of way are not the kind of people to do nothing later. They may not keep working in the same kind of way, but I don't know any who made lots of money and then stopped and did nothing.
I had made enough money by age 44. So I got out of the rat race. That didn't mean I did nothing. (I would have died of boredom.) I have spent the last 26 years working, independently and at my own expense, on a scientific research project that interests me. Except for unavoidable interruptions, eg. for medical matters, I usually work 7 days a week on it, 52 weeks a year. But I do also manage to find some time to "enjoy life", in the sense of doing some things I want to do. For example, I maintain my small farm, I dance, I read a lot. (I don't travel much, because I did more than enough of that when I was younger.)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Praestat_Mori, rozeske, davidtorez and 1 other person
derpyderpins

derpyderpins

In the Service of the Queen
Sep 19, 2023
1,859
Most people who have the drive to succeed in that kind of way are not the kind of people to do nothing later. They may not keep working in the same kind of way, but I don't know any who made lots of money and then stopped and did nothing.
I had made enough money by age 44. So I got out of the rat race. That didn't mean I did nothing. (I would have died of boredom.) I have spent the last 26 years working, independently and at my own expense, on a scientific research project that interests me. Except for unavoidable interruptions, eg. for medical matters, I usually work 7 days a week on it, 52 weeks a year. But I do also manage to find some time to "enjoy life", in the sense of doing some things I want to do. For example, I maintain my small farm, I dance, I read a lot. (I don't travel much, because I did more than enough of that when I was younger.)
Thanks for taking the time to answer. I think there's a big gap between doing "nothing" as you describe and spending the majority of your waking hours on one thing, but I guess that's just a different mindset between me and the average "successful" person.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Praestat_Mori, davidtorez and Linda
tpboy

tpboy

No Karma Cafe
Aug 4, 2023
326
Most people who have the drive to succeed in that kind of way are not the kind of people to do nothing later. They may not keep working in the same kind of way, but I don't know any who made lots of money and then stopped and did nothing.
I had made enough money by age 44. So I got out of the rat race. That didn't mean I did nothing. (I would have died of boredom.) I have spent the last 26 years working, independently and at my own expense, on a scientific research project that interests me. Except for unavoidable interruptions, eg. for medical matters, I usually work 7 days a week on it, 52 weeks a year. But I do also manage to find some time to "enjoy life", in the sense of doing some things I want to do. For example, I maintain my small farm, I dance, I read a lot. (I don't travel much, because I did more than enough of that when I was younger.)
With such a great life why are you here?
 
  • Like
Reactions: davidtorez and SMmetalhead36
H

Hotsackage

Enlightened
Mar 11, 2019
1,040
Ya, and when you want to make money and you can't, that doesn't sit with. me well
 
  • Like
Reactions: davidtorez and Criticalgeese
Linda

Linda

Member
Jul 30, 2020
1,685
With such a great life why are you here?
I explained all that in my introductory post, when I joined the site. You can find it if you scroll back. I consider life to be without any ultimate purpose (and that has been my view since I was 16), I have been suicidal in the distant past, I will ctb if my husband dies before me, but I am under no pressure to ctb right now. The main reason I stay on the site is that there are very few older people here, so I feel I can perhaps be useful by offering a perspective that would otherwise be lacking.
 
  • Like
  • Love
  • Hugs
Reactions: Twistedliesinside, Praestat_Mori, rozeske and 6 others
not-2-b-the-answer

not-2-b-the-answer

Archangel
Mar 23, 2018
9,502
Money can't buy happiness but being broke can't buy anything.
 
  • Like
Reactions: doggiesarecute, limeoctave, Praestat_Mori and 6 others
shelterwhereisleep

shelterwhereisleep

Member
May 6, 2024
53
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy security.

The security to know you will be able to eat. To have a roof over your head. To have lights. Heat. A place to call home.
To go to the doctor without fear of financial ruin.
I wonder if my dad's cancer would've been caught sooner if he wasn't afraid of how expensive it would be. If he would still be here.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: doggiesarecute, limeoctave, Praestat_Mori and 5 others
C

Criticalgeese

Member
May 21, 2024
10
Same. I never understood why people *want* responsibilities or challenges. I don't want to have to put in any work or effort at all. I want my life to be as easy as possible. I'm a NEET right now and I love it. I basically do nothing but my hobbies all day. It's a very chill existence. My parents are pressuring me to get a job though
Same, minus my parents pressuring me though. Funny enough, rich NEET's (unemployed rich people) are called "socialites" from what I've read.

A lot of rich people are just constantly working and never get to spend it much look at Elon Musk he is filthy rich yet all he does is work. Id settle for upper middle class
That's probably because their rampant workaholics that can't or won't stop and would probably get worse if they did stop.

I inherited a lot when I was 18 after my Grandparents passed away in an accident when I was in high school. Thanks to my minimalist lifestyle and getting lucky with some investments, I'm pretty much set for life and don't have to work.

I'm still here suffering daily and will hopefully be gone soon. I've already failed a couple of attempts, but hopefully third times a charm.
That's a shame, I wish I had passive income in the millions to hundreds of millions to live of off.

My parents are well off. We weren't filthy rich but I still consider myself very financially privileged. My childhood was still really shitty, but I'm still grateful that I've never struggled financially.

I've been financially stable on my own for a few years now. I'm not rich but I'm living comfortably in a high cost of living area. My mental health is still completely fucked, but I know that I would have CTB years ago if I never found a way to become financially independent.
Funny, my childhood was rather typical. Loving stable family with stable income. Always had time for me. Never bullied at school. The only abnormalities being that I'm incapable of making friends or even acquaintances, my agoraphobia, social anxiety, and knowing that I'll have to work and put effort in life. That last one makes me suicidal bar none.

I agree to an extent. Having a lot of money is great. In fact, that is the only reason I haven't checked the bus already. I moved to China where I am close to being in the top 1% by local standards; the ease of my life is the reason I continue living.

However, being born into money is not what it's cracked up to be. The reason is that your family, not you, are the ones controlling the money, and they can use that money to keep you under their thumb.
Maybe I should have said being born in a loving stable rich family and not some controlling narcissistic family. Personally I don't care about being independent in life and wouldn't mind being in a glorified gilded cage if I have all the comforts, luxury, hobbies taken care of.

It all depends if it is money (or lack thereof) that's causing your depressive thoughts. If theres no other underlying causes like clinical problems then money would help you. For me personally money would solve 50% of my problems but life would still suck because no amount of money will cure the aging process
For me money is the root of it all. I wouldn't have bothered to try twice to CTB. Just the implicit threat of having to work and put effort in life is intolerable to me and I'd rather die. As for the aging. Everyone dies in the end and I'd be content of dying a natural death if I was wealthy.

You are being too simplistic. Having so little money that you can't meet basic needs is, indeed, a problem. But once you get well past that stage, more money doesn't bring more happiness. Today, I am very comfortably off. I am no happier than 50 years ago, when I was a student with very little money.
I have spoken to a number of distinctly wealthy businessmen who have said that they enjoyed the challenge of acquiring their money, but that when they eventually became rich they found that it didn't mean much. I had an uncle who started out poor and then became very rich through his business. When I last saw him, in 1987, at my brother's wedding, he looked miserable. His wife had died a couple of years before, he was lonely, and all his millions meant nothing to him.
If you were very rich, with the mental attitudes you have now, I think you would still be miserable.
Agree to Disagree. It's not like I'll ever be wealthy short of a miracle happening in the next decade or three to find out. I'm just a simple person in the end. I conceptually hate and despise the concept of work, effort, and challenges of life like sserafim seems to. It all seems so masochistic to me, and it seems all your stories are from go-gettters in life. Ambitious people even. The total opposite of people like me. I don't get what I'm suppose to get out of your perspective and stories.

What hobbies?
Watch collecting and watches in general (haute horology specifically), Car collecting and cars in general (also restomods and classic cars), motorcycles in general, reading and looking at oddball architechturally interesting houses and buildings, fashion in general and haute couture, raw denim, shoes, interior design, furniture, food and haute cuisine in general, tea in general, and video gaming. I even have an entire wishlist ready to go if I had the money right now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: davidtorez
davidtorez

davidtorez

Mage
Mar 8, 2024
545
Money can't buy happiness but being broke can't buy anything.
Definitely!
When Jim Carey's son in Liar Liar asks him if its true that beauty is skin deep, Jim's answer was "That's something ugly people say " . People who normally say money isn't everything are the people with money.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: doggiesarecute, nonbinary, Criticalgeese and 3 others
I

idk3

Student
Sep 10, 2023
135
That's a shame, I wish I had passive income in the millions to live of off.
It doesn't suck, but it's not helping my mental issues which is severe depression, anxiety, self worth, self-esteem ect and I'm sure some other undiagnosed problems.

It won't just magically cure all your problems that you've mentioned in the op.

Now if we're talking Billions...........
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer, Criticalgeese and davidtorez
M

Mi Mi

No One Special
Mar 18, 2024
308
Hello, new here.

I already have 2 suicide attempts on myself. When I was 7 years old, I threw myself out of the 3-story balcony and broke my legs. Then I tried again at 12 years old by burning myself alive chest first. All I got out of all that is a limp, a massive burn scar on my chest, and a permanent heart condition. Any amount of moderate to severe physical or mental stress will cause me to physical and mentally breakdown. I don't handle any pressure well at all no matter how hard I try. Considering the world we live in, avoiding any kind of stress is impossible. I have no interest in living or existing out of spite.

I've basically been like this for 32 years. An agoraphobic for 14 years. Social anxiety since I was born. I have no friends, I'm a dropout with no degrees or certificates. I have no skills, I have no talents, never worked or had a job without melting down. No interest in any career. Everything is too stressful and too much effort for me.

Therapists and doctors are basically just throwing everything and the kitchen sink at me to see what sticks and with it all the side effects. I feel like a guinea pig. The only thing they haven't tried is prescribing money. Without the support of my parents and doctors I would be dead a long time ago.

All I wanted was to be born into a loving rich family so I don't have to work. Barring that winning the lottery, marrying into money, or having a rich friend. It would solve all my issues. All my problems stem from money. I wouldn't have to work. Won't have to put any effort in life. Won't have to wonder where to get Water and food. Won't have to worry about where to live. Won't have to worry about paying the bills. Don't have to worry about taxes. I could just delegate everything. I wouldn't have bothered trying to kill myself twice.

The very concept of work makes me suicidal. The chances of what I want in life happening being mathematically zero makes me suicidal. Knowing 0.01% of humanity is living the life I wanted makes me suicidal. I don't need or want a purpose in my life. What I want in this life is nigh impossible short of a miracle happening. I wanted a life of comfort and luxury inside an ivory tower. My only options are death by exposure when my parents pass or taking my own life when the time comes and what little support system I have goes away.

If your rich you can just lock yourself in an ivory tower and mind your own business. No one can hurt you me inside. The only times I've felt safe and content is alone with my parents isolated from the world. My ideal life is being born into a gilded cage were nobody can hurt me. Where I will never have to interact or engage with a single human being ever again. The world is scary place. It's a dog-eat-dog world where competition, ruthlessness, and survival of the strongest is encouraged and those who can't or won't help themselves deserve to suffer and die. All I see is ruthless people crushing everyone underfoot to secure themselves and their families.

What little hobbies I'm interested in requires me to be a multimillionaire in the 10s to 100s million range just to personally indulge in them. If someone or something just gave me 10s of 100s of millions I'd pay all my parents debt and put most of it in a boring Index Fund and let compound interest do its magic. Then after all the expenses, bills, and taxes and reinvestment's I'd donate the excess to local charities.

Whenever I share my life or opinions to strangers in real life or online all I get is invalidating comments that my feelings aren't real. That other people have it worse. That I should volunteer (why would I even do that to a society that indirectly or directly want's me to die). That my whining and self-pitting won't solve anything. That my life experiences aren't real. That wealthy people off themselves all the time. They're not living my life. I Haven't found any one willing to just give me money so I can prove everyone wrong that it will buy me contentment and happiness. They just tell me to go die already.

When the "advises", "tough love", and whatever platitudes fail. Almost everyone gets defensive and the insults and the judgments starts coming out; that I'm lazy, a parasite, a waste of life, that I should have been aborted, should have been euthanized, that it would be great for tax payers if I just killed myself already. Bluntly stating directly or indirectly encouraging me to off myself already and stop wasting everyone's time. Well, they'll get their wishes in a decade or 3. Better off for everyone on the planet if I never existed.

I'm just living to keep my promise to my parents until they pass. I'm there only child and last in the family line. My death would break them utterly. I don't deserve them in this life. I don't deserve to be mourned or remembered by anyone. No one would care anyway and neither would I at this point.

I'm already a lost cause by societies standards. Validating that I deserve all the suffering I'm going through since I have zero desire to fix my life. I wanted a golden ticket to life. I wanted a life without effort. Hearing nobody can save you except yourself doesn't motivate me to get better. It does the complete opposite and makes me want to kill myself already and get it over with. I'm sure the majority of people in society would love to save a few dollars on their taxes over my passing. Another burden to society gone and good riddance.
I agree
Whoever said money can't buy happiness was a broke ass liar😂
And as you get older you realize it's not about happiness
It's about stability
A peace of mind
Even Death costs
And if I had money
I probably would of been dead already and not leave any burdens
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: doggiesarecute, divinemistress36, not-2-b-the-answer and 2 others
C

Criticalgeese

Member
May 21, 2024
10
Definitely!
When Jim Carey's son in Liar Liar asks him if its true that beauty is skin deep, Jim's answer was "That's something ugly people say " . People who normally say money isn't everything are the people with money.
Yeah, I've noticed that too. I've also noticed that if you ask them to give a fraction of their money to test that saying. They get angry and tell you to go work for it like they did. Ranting that you deserve to die poor because of your choices.
It doesn't suck, but it's not helping my mental issues which is severe depression, anxiety, self worth, self-esteem ect and I'm sure some other undiagnosed problems.

It won't just magically cure all your problems that you've mentioned in the op.

Now if we're talking Billions...........
Why would you need billions? Even in the most boring index fund, that's 70 million a year. At worst 30 million a year. Billions is overkill for what I want to get, but I wouldn't say no if it that amount just dropped in my lap suddenly.
I agree
Whoever said money can't buy happiness was a broke ass liar😂
And as you get older you realize it's not about happiness
It's about stability
A peace of mind
Even Death costs
And if I had money
I probably would of been dead already and not leave any burdens
Yes, Stability, Security, and peace of mind to never have to worry about bills, taxes, and whatever expenses ever again. To never have to put any effort in life. Never have to worry about the sword of Damocles constantly over my head.

I posted this on a sub on reddit before it got deleted a month ago before coming here. The comments I got were basically telling me to go ahead and die. That I deserve to suffer before I go for burdening my parents with my existence, and they say reddit doesn't encourage suicide. Only one comment told me that they hope I get what I want in the end before I die. What a joke this world is or maybe it's just reddit.
 
  • Like
Reactions: davidtorez
davidtorez

davidtorez

Mage
Mar 8, 2024
545
Yeah, I've noticed that too. I've also noticed that if you ask them to give a fraction of their money to test that saying. They get angry and tell you to go work for it like they did. Ranting that you deserve to die poor because of your choices.

Why would you need billions? Even in the most boring index fund, that's 70 million a year. At worst 30 million a year. Billions is overkill for what I want to get, but I wouldn't say no if it that amount just dropped in my lap suddenly.

Yes, Stability, Security, and peace of mind to never have to worry about bills, taxes, and whatever expenses ever again. To never have to put any effort in life. Never have to worry about the sword of Damocles constantly over my head.

I posted this on a sub on reddit before it got deleted a month ago before coming here. The comments I got were basically telling me to go ahead and die. That I deserve to suffer before I go for burdening my parents with my existence, and they say reddit doesn't encourage suicide. Only one comment told me that they hope I get what I want in the end before I die. What a joke this world is or maybe it's just reddit.
And people still think non existence is worse than all this
 
  • Like
Reactions: doggiesarecute, divinemistress36 and not-2-b-the-answer
A

Artemisia

Experienced
May 24, 2024
237
It's no guarantee at all! Loving parents and health are the most important things in life, from where I stand. My parents had money, but they were quite stingy with it. I had neither love nor all the nice things money can buy to compensate for it. To them I wasn't a full person, but an amorphous mass that should have no personality at all and live exactly as they wanted. (Un)fortunatelly for all those involved, I did have a personality and a strong one too. All that achieved was knowing I was broken but taking forever to fix myself a little (and then I got terrible health issues and now it's all soon over). Sure I always had a nice roof over my head and decent clothes, but that was it.
Unfortunately, for some of us there's just no way to be well with this thing called life.
 
  • Hugs
  • Like
Reactions: Twistedliesinside, enduringwinter, Praestat_Mori and 2 others

Similar threads

Warlord's Pulse
Replies
3
Views
122
Recovery
Warlord's Pulse
Warlord's Pulse
itwasallascream
Replies
5
Views
157
Suicide Discussion
BoredNTired
BoredNTired
S1_ckJoe
Replies
1
Views
151
Suicide Discussion
Forever Sleep
F
idestroyedmyselff
Replies
4
Views
216
Suicide Discussion
idestroyedmyselff
idestroyedmyselff