ASp4E
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- May 23, 2024
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What kinds of backup plans and precautions do you have, or what would you recommend?
(Sorry for the text dump:)
I've been wondering about this for a while, since the risk of failure is ever-present and in many cases rather high. For example, in the event of discovery how could one optimize their chances of successful CTB in the future, and minimize the severity of interventions or hospitalization? If you've been recently hospitalized, then perhaps any new purchases would be under increased scrutiny. So in that case would it perhaps be better to have materials for multiple CTB methods stored in secret (in your room or similar) before making attempts? But then perhaps they could be discovered during the period after the attempt. Then, is stuff like "hiding the intent to die during hanging by disguising the attempt as a BDSM-related accident" effective, or why not? Before then, perhaps moving to a different residence or even country would protect you against family intervention (or surveillance following the attempt) if applicable?
How to behave and what to do in the case of hospitalization or risk thereof hasn't been very clear to me, so I'm very curious about it. I've heard of cases where people assert they aren't suicidal for a long time, but then aren't believed, and are eventually coerced into saying they are suicidal or risk being detained for longer. Is there a strategy for being more convincing? What about successfully avoiding medication you don't want to take? Or before all that, is there any possibility of winning a trial so that you can avoid involuntary hospitalization? Or in contrast might it be better to move all your money to crypto or elsewhere so that you can't be siphoned of it by the medical and legal systems? I know some people were kept until their insurance ran out for instance. And on that note maybe it's good to ensure there isn't any, including for example from the government for having a job.
Or what if you have an encrypted system and law enforcement decides to investigate and demands a key. Suppose you don't want to give away the key since you're using this site (and maybe also obtaining CTB materials through the device), but at the same time don't want to lose your data to law enforcement. Perhaps doing a backup of the encrypted system through Tor, would provide a way for you to recover your data, without needing to surrender your key? But then it might be difficult to access the data without being noticed.
(Sorry for the text dump:)
I've been wondering about this for a while, since the risk of failure is ever-present and in many cases rather high. For example, in the event of discovery how could one optimize their chances of successful CTB in the future, and minimize the severity of interventions or hospitalization? If you've been recently hospitalized, then perhaps any new purchases would be under increased scrutiny. So in that case would it perhaps be better to have materials for multiple CTB methods stored in secret (in your room or similar) before making attempts? But then perhaps they could be discovered during the period after the attempt. Then, is stuff like "hiding the intent to die during hanging by disguising the attempt as a BDSM-related accident" effective, or why not? Before then, perhaps moving to a different residence or even country would protect you against family intervention (or surveillance following the attempt) if applicable?
How to behave and what to do in the case of hospitalization or risk thereof hasn't been very clear to me, so I'm very curious about it. I've heard of cases where people assert they aren't suicidal for a long time, but then aren't believed, and are eventually coerced into saying they are suicidal or risk being detained for longer. Is there a strategy for being more convincing? What about successfully avoiding medication you don't want to take? Or before all that, is there any possibility of winning a trial so that you can avoid involuntary hospitalization? Or in contrast might it be better to move all your money to crypto or elsewhere so that you can't be siphoned of it by the medical and legal systems? I know some people were kept until their insurance ran out for instance. And on that note maybe it's good to ensure there isn't any, including for example from the government for having a job.
Or what if you have an encrypted system and law enforcement decides to investigate and demands a key. Suppose you don't want to give away the key since you're using this site (and maybe also obtaining CTB materials through the device), but at the same time don't want to lose your data to law enforcement. Perhaps doing a backup of the encrypted system through Tor, would provide a way for you to recover your data, without needing to surrender your key? But then it might be difficult to access the data without being noticed.
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